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Title: | Topics Pertaining to Men |
Notice: | Archived V1 - Current file is QUARK::MENNOTES |
Moderator: | QUARK::LIONEL |
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Created: | Fri Nov 07 1986 |
Last Modified: | Tue Jan 26 1993 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 867 |
Total number of notes: | 32923 |
775.0. "New Sexism unplugs Men" by TENAYA::RAH (the invisible man) Fri Mar 27 1992 13:53
Article 1612 of alt.politics.correct:
Newsgroups: alt.politics.correct
Path: pa.dec.com!decwrl!netcomsv!mork!sheaffer
From: [email protected] (Robert Sheaffer)
Subject: "New Sexism" Unplugs Men
"'New Sexism' unplugs men" by Jim Trotter
(San Jose Mercury News, March 25, 1992, p. 1B)
It isn't often that I begin with a disclaimer. But in the
case of radio free Cupertino - KKUP-FM, 91.5 on your listening
dial - and the recently terminated "Steel Clay" show, please note
that the opinions expressed below do not necessarily coincide
with my own.
Until they were fired, or suspended, as the station puts it,
computer consultant Ed Coughlin and Dr. Alfred Ehlenberger, a Los
Gatos psychiatrist, hosted "Steel Clay" for two hours every other
week on KKUP, listener-supported community access radio,
something like "Wayne's World" without the picture.
"Steel Clay" was a men's issues show, one of the few in the
country, according to Coughlin and Ehlenberger. The show
contended that men have feelings and problems, too.
Listeners , however, were apparently unappreciative - but
whether of the whole idea, or just "Steel Clay's" representation,
I am uncertain.
Said Ehlenberger, "Our show took up issues from the male ad-
vocacy position, which is politically incorrect and unpopular.
The host who preceded our show regularly read a statement urging
his audience to turn us off.
"The heart of our message is that there is a new sexism. If
men and women are supposed to be equal , why are men considered
rotten and women good? Men are held responsible for war,
pollution and everything that goes wrong, while women are
considered contributing to the world and life in general. That is
sexism."
Did I mention my disclaimer?
The problems with "Steel Clay" started when the person who
brought the show on the air, Kathryn LeMar, was asked to
voluntarily step aside as program director, while keeping her own
weekly three-hour show.
"A brilliant woman committed to free speech allowed us
on the air," Ehlenberger said, "We were fired by a hack and a
know-nothing."
Said KKUP General Manager Al Calame, "They probably
stopped short of out-and-out misogyny, but they used a lot of
code words and phrases that tended in that direction, These
people had their say, over and over and over again."
Coughlin, who was viewed by KKUP as the official host
of "Steel Clay," said the station had breached its own bylaws.
"Steel Clay" has been replaced with a program about
starting your own business. "That's standard," Ehlenberger said.
"Men are not supposed to think about themselves. Just get back to
work and pay the bills."
However,just as it seemed the men of "Steel Clay" had lost
access to KKUP, all 200 watts of it, LeMar gave them an hour of
her own show, 6:30 Monday morning. This was a guerrilla action
inside radical radio.
"Before, nobody was ever kicked off KKUP," LeMar said, "I
like the diversity. I'd like to celebrate it. Yes, this sets up a
possible confrontation."
To protest "Steel Clay " being aced (sic), LeMar said she
had withdrawn the "voluntariness" of her own resignation as
program director. She joined in the men's contention that radical
feminists had unplugged the kiln on "Steel Clay."
"Women have complained for years that men won't open up,"
said Coughlin, "but when we are willing to get out there and
talk, they want to put a gag on us. But now we're calling our
show `Steel Mushroom,' because we're popping up in different
places."
What does it all mean? I can guess. In the battle of the
sexes, another ricochet is heard, a high whine, and then only the
wind.
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Write Jim Trotter at 750 Ridder Park
Drive, San Jose [CA] 95190, or call (408)
920-5024.
--
Robert Sheaffer - Scepticus Maximus - [email protected]
Past Chairman, The Bay Area Skeptics - for whom I speak only when authorized!
"In the 1970's the world will undergo famines - hundreds of millions
of people are going to starve to death in spite of any crash programs
embarked upon now ... in 1985, when it is calculated [under the most
optimistic scenario] that the major die-back will be over, ..."
Dr. Paul Ehrlich, "The Population Bomb," 1968
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775.1 | urban legend, fer sure | HEYYOU::ZARLENGA | see ya, wouldn't wanna be ya | Sat Mar 28 1992 19:11 | 6 |
| I don't believe that story for one second.
Everyone knows that the white male patriarchy rules the free world,
so how could a radio show about men get yanked?
Sheesh, stop typing in those phony stories, willya?
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775.2 | | FMNIST::olson | Doug Olson, ISVG West, Mtn View CA | Sun Mar 29 1992 15:02 | 15 |
| 1- I saw the column in the paper a few days ago. KKUP is a very
strange station in the first place; you never know what you're gonna
hear. I can't get them regularly, their signal strength is mainly in
the Cupertino-San Jose area, doesn't quite reach Mtn View.
2- Robert, did you ever hear the station? Did you ever hear this show?
In general, sounds like these two hosts speak for men about as much as
Phyllis Schafly speaks for women; in other words, some, but probably not
many. As described, they certainly never spoke for me.
Michael, some independance still exists even in a patriarchal world.
Sorry if the concept is too tough for you.
DougO
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775.3 | | MILKWY::ZARLENGA | see ya, wouldn't wanna be ya | Sun Mar 29 1992 18:32 | 3 |
| .2>Michael, some independance still exists even in a patriarchal world.
Oh, of course, that explains it.
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775.4 | | FMNIST::olson | Doug Olson, ISVG West, Mtn View CA | Sun Mar 29 1992 21:32 | 3 |
| I guess the concept *is* too tough for you.
DougO
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775.5 | | BRADOR::HATASHITA | Hard wear engineer | Sun Mar 29 1992 21:47 | 10 |
| A "touchie-feelie" radio talk program for men? Get outa here. Give
men the programming they want to hear - "Sunday Morning Moose Skinning"
or "The Phone-in Beer Drinking Radio Talk Show" or the "Sports
Illustrated Swimsuit Edition Appreciation Hour." Men have no issues.
Men do not need to heighten their sensivity to anything nor do they
need to seek alternative forms of expression other than anger and
violence and I'll personally lay waste to anyone who claims otherwise.
Self expression for a man is a belch and a fart. And that just doesn't
go over big on the radio.
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775.7 | | DSSDEV::BENNISON | Vick Bennison 381-2156 ZKO2-2/O23 | Mon Mar 30 1992 10:25 | 1 |
| He was being facetious George. I think. - Vick
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775.8 | sometimes.... | DELNI::STHILAIRE | let your soul & spirit fly | Mon Mar 30 1992 10:31 | 4 |
| re .5, I know. That's how it seems to me, too. :-)
Lorna
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775.9 | | BRADOR::HATASHITA | Hard wear engineer | Mon Mar 30 1992 14:40 | 1 |
| I better get used to putting " :-) " in my notes.
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775.10 | | TENAYA::RAH | the invisible man | Mon Mar 30 1992 15:08 | 6 |
|
.5
well we don't molest moose hereabouts, synsytyve myn that we are.
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775.11 | | BRADOR::HATASHITA | Hard wear engineer | Mon Mar 30 1992 15:32 | 3 |
| I hear that in California they will talk the moose into giving up his
hide using gentle persuasion and a 12 step program. Any truth to this
rumour, Robert?
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775.12 | The California method | TORREY::BROWN_RO | Ain't 2 Proud 2 Beg, TLC | Mon Mar 30 1992 20:55 | 8 |
| Actually, we do a past life regression in which the moose discovers
his former lives as a software engineer, and Queen of England.
Then we do some work with crystals and auras, and take him to a
clothing-optional resort where he sheds his own skin. Very easy,
really.
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775.13 | | TENAYA::RAH | the invisible man | Mon Mar 30 1992 22:07 | 3 |
|
if i didn't know better, i'd think you were making light of
this serious topic..
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775.14 | | BRADOR::HATASHITA | Hard wear engineer | Tue Mar 31 1992 09:01 | 1 |
| Moose skinning and California are serious topics?
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775.15 | | TORREY::BROWN_RO | find those funky divas | Tue Mar 31 1992 16:35 | 8 |
| To us, they are.
There is a large statue of Bullwinkle on Sunset Boulevard. He is,
however, wearing his 'skin'.
This is directly in front of the Dudley DoRight Emporium.
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775.16 | | TENAYA::RAH | the invisible man | Tue Mar 31 1992 17:52 | 5 |
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is that the statue at jay ward prod down the street from
whiskey's?
i haven't been down there in a couple of decades...
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775.17 | | BRADOR::HATASHITA | Hard wear engineer | Tue Mar 31 1992 18:08 | 3 |
| Dudley Doright is a Canadian hero. Another "local boy made good in the
big city." Just like Wayne Gretzky.
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775.18 | | BRADOR::HATASHITA | Hard wear engineer | Tue Mar 31 1992 18:09 | 1 |
| Been a while since we talked about radio shows in this topic.
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