Conference quark::mennotes-v1

    Met them?  I live for them.
    
    Kris

    a receptacle for a male stud

    yup, but somewhat pedestrian

    I'm afraid they're usually called, er, "sluts".
    
    That's the term I use for male subjects too.  E.g., "Joe's sure been
    slutting around since his divorce."
    
    It's not nearly as nice sounding as "stud", I'm afraid, but at least I
    don't confuse it with cyberpunk or leatherwear...
    
    Ray

    I would say Jack has been studding around (or whoring around)
    I would say Jill has been slutting around

    
    yeah, but one "feels" complimentary in our society (stud), and the
    other "feels" derogatory (slut).
    
    is there a complimentary one for female studs, an alternative to sluts?
    
    I can hear it now from someone I know
    
    Q: "what would you call a woman stud?"
    
    A: "frequently"
    A: "anything she wanted"
    
    
    -Jody
    

 They are often called sluts. They are often called ice queens, meat grinders,
and the like.

 They frequently annoy men who try to control them because they control
their own sexualities, thereby becoming a focal point for male negativity.
"This one isn't acting in the way I expect." It's vexing to many men.

 Added to this is the fact that "anyone who gets more sex than me is by
definition, a slut." ;-) Except that most men that get more sex than me
are looked up to whereas women are looked down upon. Strange dichotomy
we are conditioned to.

>    Q: "what would you call a woman stud?"
    
>    A: "frequently"
>    A: "anything she wanted"

 A: "Baby!"
 A: "ASAP"

    A:	late for breakfast
    

    Sometimes someone who is playing the field, is/maybe a canidate for
    AIDS. Hopefully they are playing with a full deck, and practicing safe
    sex. Other than that, some male stud is thought of as a womanizer,
    studly stud, a dirtbag who leads with his loins vs his brains. Woman
    have been already identified. The slang of Americans can be decieving
    with the passage of age and generations. There exist a new slang for
    the same game. Men and women chasing eachother. Nothing wrong, nothing
    right. Just life. 
    
    Funny, in the divorce game, if a woman has extra marital affairs during
    the divorce, so what... The guy playing the same game, he is branded as
    a rasputian. And hence this is very negitive. Not the stud that some
    men want to be identified with.
    
    

    A: An ice cream cone?

Q:	<most men that get more sex than me are looked up to
	<whereas women are looked down upon.

A:	I'd call em zealous missionaries

    re title/basenote,
    
    I thought they were called "nymphs."  "Sluts" I believe can be either
    male or female.  "Studs" are male.
    
    Have I ever met any women like that?  Yup...even got stuck with one as
    a college roommate.
    
    	darch

    This could _very_ well be an instance if "I don't do that, and I'm
    jealous of those who do, so I'll pretend that I'm better than them."
    
    That said...
    
    I don't think "stud" is complimentary at all. It implies "someone with
    the maturity of a seventeen-year-old." It suggests "someone with the
    emotional depth of a slime mold." Stud indicates user, exploiter, out
    for just one thing, insensitive, a jerk. A stud is the kind of person
    that gives the rest of us great guys such a bad rap with women.
    
    I'd call someone who has sex without experiencing emotional engagement
    "dysfunctional."

    re>>>14
    
    May I have have phone number? :)

    RE: .0
    
    >> Have you ever heard an equivalence for the term "stud" for a female
    >> subject?
    
    How did you come up with such a disgusting question,
    have you talked to Earvin Magic Johnson
    
    Earvin Johnson referred to the (supposed) 2000 (or more) woman
    with whom he had sexual contact as "deseased" and
    as the cause of him now having AIDS
    
    Sex to him was ok until he (allegedly) contracted AIDS in
    heterosexual relationships ... he still feels no sense of
    personal responsibility
    
    christopher
    

    	I call them DUMPSTERS.

>    yeah, but one "feels" complimentary in our society (stud), and the
>    other "feels" derogatory (slut).

    Some people do feel that stud is complimentary. I do not. I generally
    see it as being derogatory. Someone who sleeps around a lot is not
    behaving "good". Be they male or female. Call them slut or stud. Same
    thing - neither complimentary.

    		Alfred

    re .17
    
    I believe the basketball player who boasted of an extraordinary number
    of "sexual contacts" was Wilt Chamberlin, not Magic Johnson.
    
    clb
    

    Chamberlain, in his autobiography, says he slept with 20,000 women.
    
    Johnson said that he never lacked company, intimating that there
    were hundreds (if not thousands) of sexual encounters.  While not
    as active as Wilt alleges, he was no slouch.
    
    					andrew 

    
    male = stud muffins
    female = stud muffinettes
    
    

Consider that there's a TV show called "Studs", but not one called "Sluts".

It is true that men who "sleep around" are looked up to but women who do the
same are reviled.  I sometimes wonder whether if Magic Johnson had been
a female athelete who had had sex with hundreds of men and contracted AIDS
that she would have been considered a "hero" as so many seem to find Johnson.

				Steve

    Steve - Martina Navritolova (sp?) questioned the same thing in an
    interview...
    
    When I talk with my sisters, or my male friends, I usually hear
    "stud" used as a description of a very good-looking man, rather
    than as a description of a man who sleeps around.  In other words,
    "stud" = "hunk."  Because of how common this usage seems to be,
    I don't automatically assume anything about someone described as
    a "stud" (except that they are probably very good looking).
    
    These same people use "slut" (or "tramp") to describe both men and
    women who are.....well, sluts.
    
    /Greg

    We seem to have uncovered another example of discrimination on the
    basis of sex, don't we?
    
    So "stud" is almost a compliment (hero, good looking, albeit
    promiscuous) and "slut" is (IMHO) derogatory, right ?
    
    It's funny but in Spanish we don't have a translation for "stud", I
    guess that form of behavior is either ignored or accepted in the male.
    There is a term (vampiresa), for a similar behavioral trait in a woman,
    which comes from "vampire", I am sure. Very prejudicial, too.
    
    Jorge
    

    I agree with .24. My understanding of "stud" was someone with the
    looks/body good enough that he could sleep around if he chose to - not
    necessarily implying that he does.
    
    	Alice T.

    cute, real cute!  :-)

    	My dictionary gives "stud" as "a pin with a large head".

    Re .15
    
    >I'd call someone who has sex without experiencing emotional engagement
    >"dysfunctional."
    
    Amen Hoyt.
    
    The only people I've known (of either gender) who go in for this
    kind of behaviour are usually pretty wounded, pretty emotionally
    damaged, and are not working their issues. Sex can be an addiction,
    just like booze or narcotics, used to numb the pain inside....
    
    'gail
    
    
    

    >I'd call someone who has sex without experiencing emotional engagement
    >"dysfunctional."

 I'd call them different. (From me, anyway.)

    another vote for dysfunctional

    To me, "dysfunctional" sounds like a judgement on those people. I
    wouldn't want to do that.
    
    	Alice T.

    I still like 'joist'
    
    BJ

    .33
    Alice,
    
    	Judgement? Nope. Carefull observation? Yes. Many of us are not of
    the one night stand. Like em, one at a time. And when we are done. We
    move on to the next relationship. One person at a time, for that time.
    Talking on multi relationships, more than one at a time. Nothing wrong
    with it. If everyone knows the rules and the game played. But if your a
    victum of it, not knowing whats the whats. It seems kinda cruel, cold,
    sick. 
    
    	Many of us do not like to boast on how many women we have notched up
    on the end of our reproductive organs. Guess perhaps thats my het view. 
    

    re .35
    
    Why do you imply your viewpoint is a result of you being "het" (if I
    understood you correctly)?
    
    	Alice T.

    Nope. Just being human.

    re .33
    
    I don't considerate it a judgement. I do consider it an accurate
    observation.
    I have no more reluctance about characterizing such folks as
    dysfunctional than -i'm sure- you would have about characterizing me as
    rude or insensitive.

    When I've slutted around, I felt (sorry, I hate the word
    "dysfunctional", though that "y" in the "dys" is way cool) icky, but
    I'm willing to admit, based on mucho evidence, that it's not icky for
    some other people.
    
    Ray

    Of course it's a judgment.  Declaring a person dysfunctional is a 
    judgment.  That's not to say it isn't a correct judgment.  It's a
    judgment I myself am not willing to make.  I can only say that for
    myself, sex without emotion is, as the result of some early 
    experimentation, uninteresting.
    						- Vick
    

>    It's funny but in Spanish we don't have a translation for "stud", I
>    guess that form of behavior is either ignored or accepted in the male.
>    There is a term (vampiresa), for a similar behavioral trait in a woman,
>    which comes from "vampire", I am sure. Very prejudicial, too.
    
>    Jorge
    
Jorge,

?Como se dice "puto" y "puta" in Ingles?

gracias,
patrick

    RE. .41
    Patrick,
    
    Puta is simply "whore".
    Puto is more complicated. In some countries it has no meaning. In
    others it means "f*g", with the same derogatory connotation.
    
    You might want to check with other sources in the "Espa�ol" conference.

	"Puto" in many countries in Central and South America, means a man
    who is oversexed, thinks with his glands, can't think of anything but
    sex, etc., etc.  In Mexico it's often expanded to "puto y cabron."  
    "Cabron" means "he-goat," so it's sort of redundant, like "stupid idiot."
    Definitely a pejorative -- at least, I've never heard it used admiringly.

    RE -1
    Puto in M�xico is "fag", not oversexed hetero or oversexed anything.
    I am not familiar with its use in the other regions you mention. I
    lived in M�xico 2 yrs and I am a native Spanish speaker.

    Men who sleep around mean absolutely nothing to me.  I consider
    them losers.  
    
    Woman who sleep around have no respect for themselves.  They are
    also losers.