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Conference quark::mennotes-v1

Title:Topics Pertaining to Men
Notice:Archived V1 - Current file is QUARK::MENNOTES
Moderator:QUARK::LIONEL
Created:Fri Nov 07 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 26 1993
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:867
Total number of notes:32923

545.0. "Need Advice.... Help" by DPDMAI::EORDOGH (Imre Atilio Eordogh Teran.. Alias M) Tue Jan 08 1991 11:59

I heve been divorce for 8 month, and today I have a lunch date with a 
lovely and delicate lady. I met her two weeks ago, and yesterday I finally
had the courage to ask her to lunch.. she accepted.

Well.. I'm shaking and shivering. I've been asking my self for the past
12 Hours, what am I going to talk about. Part of me wants to cancel the
date, but the other half wants to go.

All of these fear is because, for the 7 years that I was married I only
dated my X.

I apologize if I'm not making any sense, but as I mention when fear takes
over me, I tend to loose my train of thought.

For last.. I need some help, advice or any thing.


Thanks,

Imre E.

    
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545.1Relationship-chatter kills relationships (IMO)PENUTS::HNELSONResolved: 194# now, 175# by MayTue Jan 08 1991 12:148
    I have one strong suggestion: that you NOT talk about relationships,
    either yours with your ex- or yours with your date or anyone with
    anyone else's. You are monomaniacally preoccupied with relationships
    (I'm guessing on my five-month's divorced brother's model). She isn't.
    
    Talk about your job, current events, music, even the weather.
    
    JMHO - Hoyt
545.2QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centTue Jan 08 1991 13:4210
It's natural to be nervous in your position.  I was the same at one time 
(except for me it had been 9 years of marriage and several before that of
monogamous dating).  I would agree with Hoyt's advice and also add that
you should try not to consider this friendly lunch a "do or die" proposition.
By that I mean don't act as if your whole future with this woman depended on
this one lunch.  Try not to cram in your whole life's story in the short time.

Relax and enjoy her company.  Don't worry about tomorrow.

				Steve
545.3Thanks.DPDMAI::EORDOGHImre Atilio Eordogh Teran.. Alias MTue Jan 08 1991 14:098
    
    Thanks for the replys. One thing that I have learn in the past 8 month,
    is tha yesterday is gone, Tomorrow does not exist, and TODAY belongs to
    ME.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Imre E.
545.4FWIWBIGUN::SIMPSONDamn your lemon curd tartlet!Tue Jan 08 1991 23:5013
    One of the inevitable side effects of divorce is a loss of self-esteem. 
    After all, your relationship (and by implication, yourself) failed,
    right?  Therefore, who would be interested in me, right?  And so it
    goes.
    
    First, accept that you obviously have personal value and merit.  After
    all, she accepted your request for lunch.  If she didn't like you she
    would most probably have turned you down.
    
    Second, engrave on the inside of your eyelids that she is NOT your
    shrink.  Instead, ask her a few questions, and respond to and about her
    answers.  That'll make her feel like she's being valued, break the ice,
    and before you know it you'll have relaxed.
545.5WHAT I WOULD DO IN THAT CASEULYSSE::SOULARDSOPHISME ANTIPOLIAWed Jan 09 1991 12:1520
    Hi,
    
    	May be it is because I am french but in that case I would not speak
    of me. The wife doesn't like the men who think they are the center of
    the world. Just answer her questions about you, but quickly. Remain a
    little secret, she will be intrigued.
    
    	Make so that she speaks of her, her life, what she likes, what she
    does, her job, what she normally does during holidays, the countries
    she visited.....  The wife like speaking of herself and furthermore
    she will be happy to see that your are so interested in her that you
    want to know more about her. Be carefull, the danger is to ask
    indiscrete questions, avoid that.
    
    	I think I would do that, but it may be because of my personality
    and culture. 
    
    	Cheers,
    
    	THIERRY   (Ulysse is in VALBONNE - FRANCE - UNITED STATES OF EUROPE)
545.6\PEKING::BAKERTToo HOT to handle,too COOL to be BLUEWed Jan 09 1991 14:219
    Just remember , she is probably just as nervous and she is no Godess
    she won't have you hung or eat you for breakfast if you show
    nervousness....being nervous can only show that you care about the
    situation ! 
    
    have fun...but I agree stay away from talking relationships !!
    
    
    Tracie.
545.7plan aheadCSC32::HADDOCKAll Irk and No PayWed Jan 09 1991 17:109
    Go through the newspaper or some magazines and select a list of topics
    to talk about.  Memorize the list.  Burn it.  Make a second list of
    questions to ask her about herself.  Memorize it.  Burn it.
    
    ****DON'T TALK ABOUT YOUR EX****.  
    
    Happy Huntin',
    fred();
    
545.8but...FSTTOO::BEANAttila the Hun was a LIBERAL!Thu Jan 10 1991 07:3910
    if she actually leads you into conversation about relationships and
    your ex... don't tell her that all the 'guys' in men-notes have told
    you not to talk about those things!
    
    
    just kiddin'
    
    have a good time... relax and enjoy
    
    tony
545.9Ok, that was Jan 8th. How the date go ?AHIKER::EARLYBob Early T&N EIC /US-EISThu Jan 10 1991 12:5515
re: -< Need Advice.... Help >-


>I heve been divorce for 8 month, and today I have a lunch date with a 
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Ok Imre, that was Jan 8th !	

How'd the lunch date go ?

-BobE


    

545.10DPDMAI::EORDOGHImre Atilio Eordogh Teran.. Alias MThu Jan 10 1991 14:5819

	Well just be a liltle patient......

	Luch was cancel... It was one of those situation that work came 
	first. I Know some of you may said, (You gave up luch with 
	beautiful lady.. for work) but as I mention.. Is one of those 
	situation.

	But the good news is that I asked her if she wanted to go out for 
	dinner on Friday (1/11/91)... No answer yet.

	One favor, that not only need from this notesfile but also from 
	the ladies notesfile, and that is some support, the same kind of
	support that all of you have given me in previous replys.

	I thank all of you,

	Imre E.