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Conference quark::mennotes-v1

Title:Topics Pertaining to Men
Notice:Archived V1 - Current file is QUARK::MENNOTES
Moderator:QUARK::LIONEL
Created:Fri Nov 07 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 26 1993
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:867
Total number of notes:32923

397.0. "NEW LAW ON SUPPORT PAYMENTS" by HPSMEG::ANDREW (I live in a 8 by 10 Cube ) Tue Dec 05 1989 16:23

       I was talking to my lawyer the other day and he told me something
    very interesting.  He said that a new law has been passed that is
    a fedral law and it will require that all support money will be
    automatically deducted from you paycheck and sent to ex-spouse.
    This is supposed to happen in April of 1990.  Has anyone else heard
    of this?
    
    Denny..
    
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397.1could be good, but probably not.CSC32::R_MCBRIDERockies Horror Show...Tue Dec 05 1989 18:131
    no...but think of all the stamps it will save.
397.2free money, under the tableDEC25::BERRYBack to the Future...Wed Dec 06 1989 01:145
    Won't bother those that drift, changing jobs from time to time, or
    those that hold no jobs.  But it will affect those that pay on a
    monthly basis.  Don't think so?  Figure it out.... both ways.
    
    Dwight
397.3sheees! just what we all need!FSTVAX::BEANDAMN! The TORPEDO! Full speed ahead!Wed Dec 06 1989 07:5822
    as it is right now, Digital requires a court order specifically stating
    how much to withhold and where to send it.
    
    frankly, I think it is a bummer idea.  my divorce decree spells out the
    exact payment and the conditions under which children "grow out" of
    child support (when they stop receiving it). 
    
    if you have DEC do the withholding, it will require you obtaining a
    court order each time your payments go down (or up, for that matter).
    
    much easier to do it direct.
    
    i was divorced in San Antonio, Texas, and now live in MA.  I send my
    payments to the Child Support Registry there, they record the payment,
    and forward it (same day) to my ex-wife.  there is absolutely no way
    she can contest whether the payment was made.  
    
    it's just a safety net for me, and for her.
    
    i think the govt. outta stay out of it!  
    
    tony
397.4PEKING::NASHDWhatever happened to Capt. Beaky?Fri Dec 15 1989 08:314
    Over in this neck of the wood( England); I missed one payment to
    my ex and she registered it in a Magistrates Court. Now I have to
    pay them which is good and bad, cos if things go wrong I answer
    to them.  My ex doesn't have to do a damn thing.
397.5doesn't matterDEC25::BERRYBack to the Future...Mon Dec 18 1989 13:305
    Failing to pay support even once is a "no-no."  You owed her the money. 
    If you were late, that's one thing.  If you were not going to make it
    up, or pay it at all, then you have no gripe.
    
    -dwight
397.6-=more than payment tracking ...WOODRO::EARLYBob Early CSS/NSG Dtn 264-6252Wed Jan 03 1990 13:2538
re: .0

The new law has merits both ways.

Its purpose has little to do with the "honest" supporters. It does provide
one of Lifes little harassments, in that now every payment gets recorded.

The Government  now  also has a "permanent and legal" record of how much
Alimony gets paid  (by  SS#)  and  to whom !!  (Goes to IRS).  I believe
there is at least  ONE  expouse  who  did not declare any of the Alimony
payments as Income !!

Also,  since  the SS# and  Payment  records  are  now  joined  together,
anywhere the "John" goes the Gov't  can track and either seize wages, or
pay with the "John"s accumulated SS Benefits, Tax Returns, or any other
funds held or paid by the Gov't.

There  is  an  implied  reduction    of    participator  fraud.    Each
Welfare/Medicaid/ADP/ etc can provide info when a spouse CLAIMS they are
not receiving Alimony/Support money.

It    also   provides  another  level  of  Government  Intervention  and
Supervision over  its "free" members;  increases the possibility of more
Gov't employees getting kickbacks and bribes from "spouses who owe", and
of course, another tier  of  Gov't  employees.  Just what we need.  More
Gov't employees !!!

You can be sure of one thing.   If some givernment agency shows all the
positive images of goodness about this plan, you  can  be sure its going
to :
    - Cost all of us more than it will save
    - Provide an irreversible government agency 
    - Improve corruption in the existing agencies




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397.7is it or isn't it?SQLRUS::FISHERPat PendingWed Jan 03 1990 15:014
    .0  asked if anyone else has heard of this.  Has anyone?
    .6 presumes that it is a fact but does not say so, is it?
    
    ed