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Title:Topics Pertaining to Men
Notice:Archived V1 - Current file is QUARK::MENNOTES
Moderator:QUARK::LIONEL
Created:Fri Nov 07 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 26 1993
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:867
Total number of notes:32923

346.0. "Support groups for divorced" by CSG001::MEDEIROS (Max Headcount) Tue May 16 1989 14:08

         What kind of experiences have you had with support groups for the
recently divorced?

         I am in the middle of a divorce (separated for 3 months now) and 
have been to a couple of different support groups.  My findings:

         -  The men tend to be outnumbered by the women, usually by a
            two-to-one margin.
         -  The men tend to contribute less than the women, who are
            usually much more vocal about their feelings (with anger
            heading the list).  The discussions have often taken on
            an "All Men Are Pigs" flavor that I find disturbing.
         -  The group leader/moderator generally tries to keep the
            discussions constructive, but as in most small groups, there
            are usually one or two people who have the most to say and
            dominate the discussion.  These tend to be those who have been
            the most recently separated/divorced and have felt the most
            wronged/cheated/taken advantage of by their ex's.

         Any comments?  Any suggestions on support groups in the greater
Boston area that were helpful and constructive?

         (Note to moderator:  I did a dir/title=divorce and couldn't find
          a note on this subject.  Please feel free to move this if
          appropriate)
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346.1POSITIVE Experiences ... with TSLAHIKER::EARLYBob Early CSS/NSG Dtn 264-6252Mon May 22 1989 13:2567
Re: .0

>         What kind of experiences have you had with support groups for the
>	recently divorced?
    
    Mostly good. The negative aspects were only relatedto "lifestyle"
    issues.

>         I am in the middle of a divorce (separated for 3 months now) and 
>have been to a couple of different support groups.  

    >    My findings: without probable systemfile damage
>             -  The men tend to be outnumbered by the women, usually by a
>            two-to-one margin.
    
    The groups that went to (more than 2 years ago now) it was more
    like 5 -10 to 1. ometimes, it was 15:1; where I was one of 2 men
    in  a group of 32.
    
>         -  The men tend to contribute less than the women, who are
>            usually much more vocal about their feelings (with anger
>            heading the list).  The discussions have often taken on
>            an "All Men Are Pigs" flavor that I find disturbing.

    Albeit times change, the group familiar to me is "TSL", The Single
    Life ... and the moderators controlled the dicsussion to prevent
    such onesided opinionation.
    
    
    >         -  The group leader/moderator generally tries to keep the
>            discussions constructive, but as in most small groups, there
>            are usually one or two people who have the most to say and
>            dominate the discussion.  These tend to be those who have been

    Again, see Moderator involvement in controlling the group.
    
    >            the most recently separated/divorced and have felt the most
>            wronged/cheated/taken advantage of by their ex's.

    Which, of course, is all of us, isn't it ?
    
    
>         Any comments?  Any suggestions on support groups in the greater
>	Boston area that were helpful and constructive?
    
    Do you need to remain in that area ? Would you consider commuting
    to a suburban area if you could find a singles club  suite to your
    own lifestyle.

    I'm not sure what you want to find in a "recently divorced" group;
    but I expect that what you found would be typical. Try a few singles
    clubs,  where there is generous mix of divorced, widowed, separated
    and a few never marrieds. TSL is (was) based in Waltham Mass (see
    the white pages).
    
    The interesting thing about a club like TSL, is , if you don't like
    the people in the chapter you join; then you can go to a different
    chapter somewhere else. And with somthing like 32 chapters to choose
    from; the possibilities are really quite good at finding one  you
    like.
    
    
    Two other notesfiles related to this topic is:
    Singles, Human_Relations, and Womannotes.
    
    Bob (thrice single and happy, now married and happy).

346.2Cambridge Adult Education CenterTOOK::BLOUNTTue Jun 06 1989 14:5714
    I recommend a discussion group organized by the Cambridge Center
    for Adult Education, located in Harvard Square.  They have a course
    called The Divorce Experience, or some such name, that I took
    several years ago.  It's run by two people from the Divorce
    Mediation Center, and it consists of basically discussion about
    the various issues of divorce.  But, they focus on personal feelings,
    not much on the legal and logistical issues of divorce.  I liked
    it because it was fairly evenly balanced between men and women,
    and there was a lot of open feelings expressed during the sessions.
    It was helpful to see how very different people reacted to this
    type of stressful experience that they all were going through.
    
    good luck
    
346.3A Men's group on REMOTE PARENTING ?WILKIE::NOWICKIWed Nov 01 1989 22:5026
    I have tried to be a contributing member in a few of them and find
    that, sadly, there are few good ones. Most are places for meeting
    people, in one guise or another. And while I certainly understand
    loneliness and sympathise with that - a social club is not really
    my greatest need. My need is for a support group of people who,
    like myself, are making a determined effort at continued parenting
    under the exceptionally trying circumsatnces of a histile divorce.
    
    It's not easy to find a group like that..I'd be happy to hear from
    anyone who has any ideas. Far and away the best divirced group I
    have come across was the one at Calvary United Methodist Church
    in Arlington. It is run by their minister, Peter Miano, a well trained
    young man of great sensitivity. But most are collections of sadly
    wounded people who don't really know what to do.
    
    My greatest disappointmnet was a group of single fathers - the leader
    turned out to be so rabid that he made the most strident of feminists
    look downright restrained. His anger was self destructive.
    
    Remote parenting is hard to do - I would really appreciate conatact
    with other men who wnt to conceentrate on that issue and who can
    help each other by sharing experiences and sanity checking the remedies
    most of us who have not just given up spend so much energy seeking.
    
    Jack