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Conference quark::mennotes-v1

Title:Topics Pertaining to Men
Notice:Archived V1 - Current file is QUARK::MENNOTES
Moderator:QUARK::LIONEL
Created:Fri Nov 07 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 26 1993
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:867
Total number of notes:32923

240.0. "Palimony" by FDCV03::ROSS () Tue Jun 21 1988 11:39

This Note has also been posted in Soapbox, Human_Relations and
Womannotes.
        
Reading the sports section in the Boston Globe this morning (the
suit being brought against Boston Red Sox player Wade Boggs) led me to 
thinking about palimony in general.

What is the ostensible justification for palimony, especially when
both parties are able (albeit, not necessarily willing) to work? 

Is it a form of legalized (and well-rewarded) "prostitution" in the
broader sense of the word: "to sell (one's talents) to an unworthy
cause"?

Is palimony claimed on the basis of sex having taken place? That is, if
two people have been non-sexual companions, would there be grounds for one
of them bringing a palimony suit against the other?

Is there an unwritten minimum age of the people involved, for the concept 
of palimony to be presumed? Could one partner of a teen-age couple bring
a palimony suit against the other?

  Alan
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240.1Temporary holdQUARK::LIONELWe all live in a yellow subroutineTue Jun 21 1988 16:155
    I've temporarily set this note /NOWRITE while I discuss the
    appropriateness of this note to MENNOTES with Alan.  Please feel
    free to respond in QUARK::HUMAN_RELATIONS.
    
    				Steve
240.2Topic reopenedQUARK::LIONELWe all live in a yellow subroutineWed Jun 22 1988 11:593
    This topic is now open again for responses, at the request of the
    author.
    			Steve
240.3RANCHO::HOLTStanford Square Vigilance CommitteeThu Jun 23 1988 00:284
    
    As far as I am concerned, palimony is the same as goldigging.
    
    
240.4A quick stab at a response (re: .0)3210::EARLYBob_the_hikerThu Jun 23 1988 13:2032
    re: .0
    
    Hmm not being an expert .. from the context of a  few publicized
    cases, my guess is that "palimony" is the singles equivalent of
    "Alimony" ... that is .. the financial maintenace of someone who
    sacrificed some part of their life to add value to another persons
    life .. and if unable to continue to be part of that persons life
    they want some 'reparation' for services provided.
    
    In the case of children (ie those that are under the age of 18),
    it is the parents responsibility to pay up (ie if one persons sone
    got another persons daughter impregnated), it is the responsibility
    of the sons parents to pay up for the daughters expenses. Depending
    on legal processes, etc, etc.
    
    In all of this, I quess that the "legal precedent" of 'deep pockets'
    is the rule of thumb. If "my" son got someone elses daughter pregnant
    at a "Rock Star Concert" it would be immediatley obvious that the
    situation was not well controlled, and it would be the 'fault' of
    the rich and famous rock star (even though h/she miay not have been
    directly involved). By filing a 'class action suit' against the
    star, we would all (except for the star) be richer, and the "extreme
    rightists" would have enough material to go on a rampage about the
    'implied sinfulness' of Rock Music.

    Details, details, details ... forget the 'Rightness' of it. Consider
    the  money  aspect and ignore ethics. We are talking about legal
    precedence and getting money from the 'rich folks', as in PaliMoney.
    
    //RWE
    
    
240.5Get something in writing guys - nowMCIS2::POLLITZAnd they shall not be one fleshThu Jul 28 1988 22:4227
       Since this matter is yet another risk facing the single (ie
    unmarried) male today, I think that once a relationship takes
    hold, a man would be wise to talk with his SO regarding the
    "what ifs" when and if the time comes for splitsville.
    
       After an agreement has been hammered out on paper, a man
    would be wise to see his lawyer and get a legal contract of
    sorts for his (and her) protection.
    
       This measure of security could be updated from time to time
    as circumstances (ie relationship duration, assets changes)
    warrant.
    
       Of course it would be practical for the woman to make this
    exact agreement into something legal with her own lawyer.
    
       If no children are involved, I feel that unmarrieds really
    shouldn't be entitled to what another owns.
    
       The "take what you can" trend that prevails today however
    merits pre-action on the part of men.
    
       I think that men that don't take precautions in this area are
    open to (and deserve) whatever happens when the relationship
    terminates.
    
                                                 Russ