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Conference quark::mennotes-v1

Title:Topics Pertaining to Men
Notice:Archived V1 - Current file is QUARK::MENNOTES
Moderator:QUARK::LIONEL
Created:Fri Nov 07 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 26 1993
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:867
Total number of notes:32923

196.0. "Impotency - the unspoken illness" by MARCIE::JLAMOTTE (days of whisper and pretend) Mon Dec 07 1987 18:44

    I just searched through the directory to see if this problem had
    been addressed before.  It has not.  If the moderators feel the
    discussion might be to explicit for the conference feel free to
    delete my note.
    
    Right now I am not in a relationship....several years ago I loved
    a man that was diabetic.  He very gradually became impotent.  What
    was sad is he did nothing as far as seeking a medical opinion.  
    
    And it seems from talking to women friends it is not an uncommon
    occurence.  And it also seems that the men that they know are also
    reluctant to seek medical help.
    
    The purpose of this note is to encourage men to seek medical help
    and to get some insight as to why it is so difficult for a man to
    deal with this function of their body.
    
    
    
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196.1Perhaps, for some, its really NOT a problem??BETA::EARLYBob_the_HikerTue Dec 08 1987 12:3834
    re: .0
    
    Some consider that some men have TWO illnesses.
    
    The first is impotency. A fact of life that occurs in people. The
    inability to get aroused.
    
    The second, is "Don't care". I believe  (based on some group
    discussions with singles, aquaintences, and 'others') that some
    men "look forward" and enjoy a feeling of impotency. 
    
    It is remotely possible that some men feel as "trapped" by the sex game
    as some women feel used by it.
    
    When these men (people ?) get hit with 'impotency', and the allegedly
    'natural instinct' no longer rears its ugly head, the 'victim' is
    likewise freed from 'pursuing' and can settle down to a normal
    existence of calmness and tranquility not otherwise possible. In
    short, if they are unmarried, there is no reason to do so; if they
    are single; it doesn't matter. If they are married to an otherwise
    celibate person; they both can rejoice.
    
    It seems only to be a tragedy if they impotency occurs, and the
    victim would choose otherwise (then as with any other dysfunctionality,
    it is up to the 'victim' to seek help (treatment)).
    
    Of course, I have no medical knowledge on this problem, just my
    opinion.
    
    Bob
    
    
    
    
196.2Ugly? Really!FLOWER::JASNIEWSKIFri Dec 11 1987 10:4515
    
    	I agree with Bob, perhaps he's simply "relieved" for the first
    time since he was "13" years old....
    
    	But Bob, why quote "natural instinct" as if it's some sorta
    label and not true, also, why do you consider this natural part
    of a man "ugly" as in "rears it's ugly head"?
    
    	We men are the ones who make it ugly; as a given, it's as beautiful
    as can be!
    
    	To .0, sorry to hear that the man you loved chose to revel in
    his relief and not "get himself fixed up" or whatever.
    
    	Joe Jas
196.3Answering Questions - Doctors?PBA::GIRARDFri Dec 11 1987 13:5310
    Dear Joyce,
    
        what is the cause of the impotency?
    
        You don't need a doctor for that!
    
        remember that it is only an illness to another person!
    
        and that doctors treat symptoms not causes!!!
    
196.5ASIC::EDECKFri Dec 11 1987 16:3114
    
    There are medical reasons for impotence. Diabetes causes a 
    numbing of the sensory nerves (knew a guy who had diabetes
    and walked across a hot topped driveway without feeling it)
    as well as a restriction of blood flow to (all) the extremities.
    Between the two...
    Chronic alcoholism will also affect potency, as will some injuries 
    to the back. (And para- or quadraplegics are not necessilary im-
    potent)
    
    I'm told not much can be done for treatment, although a penile implant
    is possible.
    
    (gotta go--system crashing)
196.6Encouraging discussionQUARK::LIONELWe all live in a yellow subroutineFri Jan 08 1988 13:4614
    Recognizing that this is a sensitive subject for many men, let me
    remind our readers that it is possible to contribute anonymously.
    Simply send the text to one of the moderators and ask him to post
    the reply for you.
    
    Impotence has been too long regarded as a topic for derision and
    a joke.  It's no joke to the men who suffer from it.  Whether the
    cause be biologic or psychologic, the problem is real and the
    effects can be devastating.
    
    I would encourage discussion on this topic, and perhaps increase
    everyone's understanding of the causes and effects of impotence.
    
    					Steve
196.8Just passing through...CSCMA::BALDWINTue Jul 17 1990 18:544
    I know it's been awhile, but I was just wondering if the moderators
    would consider changing the title of this topic to:"Impotency...the
    unspoken illness" as there is no other topic on impotency in this
    file and it really is an issue for men to discuss. 
196.9QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centTue Jul 17 1990 22:502
    Done.
    	Steve
196.10Anonymous replyQUARK::HR_MODERATORFri Jul 20 1990 16:2840
    The following reply has been contributed by a member of our community
    who wishes to remain anonymous.
    
    
    
    I went to a urologist because I've been having a semi-problem...i.e.
    sometimes it works better than others.
    
    The doctor says there is a reasonably good possibility that the problem
    is organic, with my circulation problems and the hypertension medicine.
    He didn't see any real need to go thru extensive testing to try to
    confirm it, because surgically curing it would be virtually impossible
    under these circunstances.
    
    There are 3-4 ways to work around that. One is a simple implant, but it
    would be a permanent thing. When through using my penis for what it's
    supposed to be used for, I could bend it down, kind of out of the way,
    but it wouldn't  soften up. A variation is putting a small pump in the
    scrotum, and pump it  up when I want to use it for pleasure. But my
    insurance plan won't cover  that, because it supposedly isn't perfected
    yet. I'd have to cover the  difference in the two procedures, which
    would be about $6000. No way. And I  don't think I want a permanent
    erection, that I just bend to suit the moment.
    
    They have a pump that can be put over the penis, then you just pump it
    to pull pull a vacuum, making the penis erect, then put a rubber ring
    over the base  of the penis, which is supposed to keep it hard. That
    has a suggested time  limit of around 30 minutes, after which you
    should take it off. I believe there is a danger factor there. The pump
    is really the pits, though. I was shown one.
    
    Or, whenever your getting ready for some romance, you can give yourself
    a  little injection right at the base of the penis (I believe), and it
    is supposed  to be ready to go within about 5 minutes, and they set the
    dose to give you  about 1/2 hour. The best of all the deals, I
    personally believe. 
    
    That's what I've found. Based on the notion that the problem is below
    and not above the neck.