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Conference quark::mennotes-v1

Title:Topics Pertaining to Men
Notice:Archived V1 - Current file is QUARK::MENNOTES
Moderator:QUARK::LIONEL
Created:Fri Nov 07 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 26 1993
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:867
Total number of notes:32923

183.0. "Women: Would you *Like* to ask Men out (more)?" by XCELR8::POLLITZ () Sat Nov 14 1987 23:25

       Would you *Like* to ask a man out?
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183.3CSSE::HAKIMMon Nov 16 1987 16:5116
    Funny you should ask...
    
    
    	NO!
    
    Having initiated on numerous occassions, I have found that the response
    varies as does the culture, the age, and the values of the men I
    have asked. Men are no easier to figure out than women and vice
    versa. It is also no more or less of a risk for a woman to be rejected
    than a man. Since I have so much doubt about all this stuff (that includes
    the game playing which does go on, but which no one dares admit....
    remember now..we are all suppossed to be honest and enlightened)
    the only way I know a man wants to be with me is if he asks. And
    then we'll take it from there. In the event a good friend/relationship
    develops, then I have no problem initiating my wanting to be with that 
    man. 
183.4Are you serious?VCQUAL::THOMPSONNoter at largeMon Nov 16 1987 17:068
>    the only way I know a man wants to be with me is if he asks. And

    And can I assume that the only way a man knows if you want to be
    with him is for you to ask? No, then how does he know? Are men so
    good at reading you that they don't need you to ask? Or are you
    so bad at reading men?
    
    			Alfred        
183.6GCANYN::TATISTCHEFFLee TTue Nov 17 1987 00:3112
    I ask men out plenty, thanks.  Yes I enjoy some aspects of it, and
    hate other aspects.
    
    The hard ones to initiate are where we are already friends and I
    would like a little more... when he is accustomed to thinking of
    me in a strictly platonic way (or get in hot water) and then I think
    "well, isn't HE nice..." and try to test the waters for further
    involvement, there is a dearth of signals.  And sitting down and
    saying, gee you know, I'd really like to get to know, er weel, I'd
    really like, er, oh forget it.  That's just a tad awkward.
    
    Lee
183.7Learning how to play...MARCIE::UPRTue Nov 17 1987 00:5210
    I'm learning to ask men out, no, it's not easy.  A lot of times
    it's more like encouraging them to ask me out (hitting them with
    a brick, for example).
    
    It really isn't so bad to ask them, but then, I only do when I
    am fairly certain I won't be rejected.  "Reading all the signals
    right".
    
                                           cj
    
183.8Ain't That The TruthHPSCAD::WALLI see the middle kingdom...Tue Nov 17 1987 08:5615
     
    RE: .6
       
    >The hard ones to initiate are where we are already friends and I
    >would like a little more... when he is accustomed to thinking of
    >me in a strictly platonic way (or get in hot water) and then I think
    >"well, isn't HE nice..." and try to test the waters for further
    >involvement, there is a dearth of signals.  And sitting down and
    >saying, gee you know, I'd really like to get to know, er weel, I'd
    >really like, er, oh forget it.  That's just a tad awkward.
    
    You and I ought to get together and write a book with some really
    trendy title about this phenomenon. :-)
    
    DFW
183.9true true true...STOKES::WHARTONTue Nov 17 1987 09:266
    Lee, it is so true. 
    
    After a few dates of "hanging out with the guys"  and I decide
    that I want a little more, it's so much more awkward...
    
    -karen
183.10How Do You Know???GCANYN::WILBERTue Nov 17 1987 16:5711
    Re .4
    
    I agree with Alex. How the heck is a man **supposed** to know these
    unwritten signals that we are talking about? I've tried initiating
    many times lately and have come up sour feeling like I shouldn't
    have even tried. I just don't understand this dating "game". I guess
    I missed the meeting where "signals" were talked about.
    
    Jeff
    
    
183.11COMET::BRUNOBeware the Night Writer!Wed Nov 18 1987 22:419
    
         Neither sex can know for sure.  Males are, at the present,
    accostomed to taking the risk (for the large part).  The reasons
    that some of the noters are giving for WOMEN not 'carrying the ball'
    are equally good reasons for MEN not doing so.  Luckily, men will
    still do the job.
    
                                   Greg
    
183.12How well did you want to know them?OPHION::HAYNESCharles HaynesMon Nov 23 1987 13:3911
    Eye contact. Works wonders. If you look someone straight in the
    eye and think to yourself, "Gee, I'd like to get to know you better."
    they usually get the message. If you'd only like to know them a
    little better, try doing things with them. I find that going to
    a local cafe, coffee house, or bookstore, and just sitting around
    talking is a great way to get to know someone better. Fairly
    non-threatening as well.
    
    Direct eye contact is risky of course. They may frown and look away.
    
    	-- Charles