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| 159.1 | over 40 with kids | COMET3::PAPA |  | Tue Oct 06 1987 00:50 | 8 | 
|  |     In response to your comment about kids, I am 47 single with 3 kids
    living with me 2 boys age 7 and 10 and one girl age 20 . Also reciently
    I have had to move my dad in with me. so between the kids and my
    dad I figure any woman who would want to get in the middle of that
    is probably crazy. In addition I am so busy between kids,dad and
    hobbies I havent got a minute left over for anything. I do try 
    to squeeze in some work once in a while to pay for things.
                
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| 159.3 |  | ANGORA::BUSHEE | George Bushee | Tue Oct 06 1987 09:54 | 5 | 
|  |      
    	Then there are some of us that are just out here
    	not in any big hurry to change the "single" status....
    
    	:^)
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| 159.4 | (Grown-Up) Girls Just Want to Have Fun | TOPDOC::JAMES |  | Tue Oct 06 1987 10:13 | 13 | 
|  |     <- My, but aren't we being a tad paranoid ? (half a smiley face
    here). The base note talks about friendship and relationship - how
    does that transfer into "losing the single status"?
    
    As a 40+ woman, the *last* thing I want is to burden (yes, as in
    too-heavy) myself with another husband. I like to meet and relate
    to men my own age, but as Momma always said, you don't have to take
    them home and keep them.
    
    I'm in no hurry to lose my freedom, either!
    
    stel
    
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| 159.6 |  | MTBLUE::FOOTER_JOE |  | Tue Oct 06 1987 11:43 | 4 | 
|  |     
      Perhaps a bunch of us over 40 guys just happen to prefer younger
    women!
    
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| 159.7 | TO MANY RESTRICTIONS | COMET3::PAPA |  | Tue Oct 06 1987 12:28 | 13 | 
|  |     IT LOOKS LIKE A MULTIPLE SET OF REASONS WILL MAKE OVER 40'S COUPLES
    RARE.
    IT SEEMS A LOT OF OVER 40'S WOMEN DONT WANT TO DEAL WITH KIDS
    FROM MY EXPERIENCE A LOT OF MEN OVER 40 DONT WANT TO DEAL WITH
    THE WOMANS KIDS.
    A LOT OF MEN OVER 40 ARE INTERESTED IN WOMEN UNDER 40
    A LOT OF MEN OVER 40 WHO ARE SINGLE HAVE BEEN DRAGGED THRU
    DIVORCE COURT A COUPLE OF TIMES AND ARN'T ABOUT TO HAVE THAT
    HAPPEN AGAIN. 
    WHEN YOU ADD IT ALL UP THE ODD OF AN OVER 40'S MATCH SEEM REALLY
    SLIM. THEIR ARE TOO MANY RESTRICTIONS BY BOTH THE MEN AND THE WOMEN
    TO ALLOW ANY GOOD MATCHES.
    
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| 159.9 | Opinion of an under 40 male | SSDEVO::B_GRAHAM |  | Tue Oct 06 1987 13:29 | 16 | 
|  |     In reference to .5 - I think your comment concerning "isn't that
    what women do anyway?" is totally off the wall.  Evidently, you
    don't understand women or have gotten involved with the wrong ones!
    
    But in response to the original note - I am an under 40 male and
    prefer women over 40 for friendship as well as intimacy.  Granted
    there are inherent problems with the age difference, but there are
    differences in any relationship which the two people bring to it.
    Either you are open to accepting/changing or you're not.  I don't
    see much chance of anything if you expect everything to be just
    right from the start.  There's two people involved at all times
    or it's not a relationship at all.  So I really don't think the
    age difference has as much bearing as the personalities and 
    expectations of the people involved.
    
    By the way, I have no need for pampers and I don't have pimples!
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| 159.10 |  | CSSE::HAKIM |  | Thu Oct 08 1987 09:38 | 19 | 
|  |     I'm findng this discussion quite interesting. Seems I fall in the
    middle somewhere. I've dated men 10 years younger and 10 years
    older. I definitely prefer the older. But even when you have all
    the "apparent assets" (e.g. divorced, no children, good profession,
    good income, younger than 40 older than 30, and good looks) there's 
    always something else you don't have. I can't help but wonder if
    people don't make some kind of excuse because they just can't deal 
    with possibly failing at another relationship. I've also found 
    that older individuals have reconciled themselves to "soloing"
    and fill their lives with some many activities and commitments that
    they have no time to start a relationship. Either that, or a
    relationship is not high on the priorities list. Having run into
    these situations numerous times, I've simply taken myself off the
    market out of total discouragement. I have to believe that I am
    not a unique case and that many people do the same. I don't know
    that there is a solution, but the black hole seems to keep getting 
    larger.
    
    Ann  
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| 159.11 |  | APEHUB::STHILAIRE | You might think I'm crazy | Thu Oct 08 1987 11:37 | 8 | 
|  |     Well, .0, you heard'em, now are you sure you still want one :)?
     If you're going to put any effort into "getting a man" you may
    as well make it worthwhile and try for somebody under 40, instead
    of some dissillusioned old fuddy-dud :-)!  As .9 said, all men under
    40 don't have pimples or babies, my SO doesn't.
    
    Lorna
    
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| 159.12 |  | QUARK::KLEINBERGER | MAXCIMize your efforts | Sat Oct 10 1987 08:43 | 13 | 
|  |     The one thing I have found with men over 40 (or approaching 40 fast!)
    is that they are so set in their ways, that they CAN'T for the world
    understand compromise...  Its either their way (cuz they have been
    doing it so long [or thats the way there mother did it]) or no way
    at all.
    
    A good friend once told me, that Dr. Ruth is famous for saying that
    if a man is single at 40, he won't ever marry (yeah, I know, ever
    is a very strong word)... but I can see where she is coming from...
    
    Just my 5 cents worth...
    
    GLK
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| 159.13 | and about that bridge... | MPGS::MCCLURE | Why Me??? | Mon Oct 12 1987 11:49 | 8 | 
|  |     Generalities are usually too general 8-).
    
    Just prior to my 41st birthday, I decided to end a 17 year marriage.
    Just after my 42nd birthday, I married a woman 21 years younger
    than me and am now the proud father of my first child. Stuck in
    my ways and can't think about compromise? Sure, right.
    
    Bob Mc
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| 159.14 | Same as what some women want ........ | BETA::EARLY | Bob_the_Hiker | Tue Oct 13 1987 12:16 | 35 | 
|  |     re: .12
    
    Uh huh .... 'over 40 men, huh ?' ..... I guess you must mean SOME
    men (as well as some women, too ?) ...
    
    Actually, Gale makes a good point: Once  a person finds a lifestyle
    that's amenable to themselves; have achieved a certain modicum
    of security, comfort, and regularity ... why throw it all away
    and start over ?
    
    Actually. to .0 , I think many men are looking for the same thing
    many women are: A comfortable relationship they can call 'ours'.
    
    Its much nicer to wake up in the morning to the sound of crickets
    instead of complaints and screeching. Its not bad to look over at
    the wallpaper peeling and  decide to "do something about it someday"
    without needing to feel rushed into it ..........
    
    Some single men can handle multiple relatonships, sort of like 
    having more than one type of music, with the realization that to
    mae one person "superlatively happy" would be to disappoint the
    rest, and make them very sad.
    
    What do men over 40 want ? Peace, quiet, private pilots license,
    a 'nice young 21 year old women on thier arm', dancing, hiking ,
    a mountain retreat, a seaside house, a sailboat, a trip to Europe,
    Skiing .... pretty much what some "over 40 women" want (including
    the young women).
    
    I couldn't tell you what *I* want. I didn't know when I was single,
    but what I  have isn't what I predicted or asked for, but I am very
    happy with my "older woman".
    
    Bob+3
    
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