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Conference quark::mennotes-v1

Title:Topics Pertaining to Men
Notice:Archived V1 - Current file is QUARK::MENNOTES
Moderator:QUARK::LIONEL
Created:Fri Nov 07 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 26 1993
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:867
Total number of notes:32923

104.0. "Women Techniques - What are they?" by ROCKET::SLACK () Wed May 20 1987 10:14

    Recently, here in DEC, the manager of one of our fine organizations
    told a female employee of his, that there are "women techniques"
    of getting around the chauvinism of her male colleagues.  Can you
    men please tell me what these techniques are? I for one couldn't
    think of any when she asked me.  And, if you happen to think of
    it, what are the "male techniques" you men use?
    
    
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104.1women techniques??? hunh?CSSE::MARGEKitten on the break key...Wed May 20 1987 13:326
    perhaps hard work, dedication, willingness to leap tall buildings
    in a single bound???

    
    grins,
    Marge
104.3BashGENRAL::SURVILNot COLONEL::SANDERSWed May 20 1987 15:515
    	
    
    	Sorry Eagle, but I've found just the opposite to be true.
    
    	Todd
104.5Techniques? Well, OK...USHS01::DAVIS2Who knows, who cares, why bother?Wed May 20 1987 18:4945
    
    	"Women Techniques":
    
    	1) Smile coyly and insinuate that you will take whatever problem
    	   was being discussed to a superior.
    
    	2) Smile coyly and play into the chauvenistic attitude by
    	   pretending to be an airhead.  Ask appropriate airhead 
    	   questions to steer chauvenist into proper way of thinking
    	   (be careful not to make the question sound pointed or
    	   intelligent).
    
    	3) Put on the ice-cold bit__ face and boldly do whatever needs
    	   doing.  If hassled by the male chauvenist, threaten his
    	   masculine ego (you women know how to do that, don't you).
    
    	4) Insinuate to management that the chauvenist is sexually
    	   harassing you.  (Note: This won't work too well if 
    	   management is sexually harassing you too!)
    
    	5) Pretend the male involved does not exist.  This is by
    	   far the most popular method.
    
    	   The above assume that the situation is non-sex related and
    	involves a confrontation between a female and a male chauvenist.
    	Following are examples of male techniques:
    
    	1) Smile wryly and say "That's easy for you to say... if things
    	   ever get too tough all you need to do is get pregnant and
    	   let your husband support you".  (Note: Not very effective
    	   on lesbians).
    
    	2) Pretend to be sensitive and concerned about female-oriented
    	   issues.  Even the hard-line female activists love this one,
    	   and will eventually come to trust the 'sympathetic' male
   	   as if he were a female.  (Note:  This usually involves
    	   a lot of listening to whatever line of drivel she's coming
    	   out with, and you have to really look interested... no
    	   snoring allowed).
    
    	3) Pretend the female in question does not exist.  This is 
    	   by far the most popular method.
    
    Greg
    
104.6another conference?STUBBI::B_REINKEthe fire and the rose are oneThu May 21 1987 00:204
    Would the author object to having the base note extracted and 
    entered in womanotes?
    
    Bonnie J
104.7Could it be $ex??CSMSRE::WRIGHTDanger : I drive like you do!Thu May 21 1987 09:4812
    
    Having read the note that .0 originated, and having run into the
    type of personality that the manager is described as being, the
    "Woman techniques" bit sounds like "you'll get the
    promotion/raise/favorable review, if you sleep with me, otherwise,
    too bad"
    
    Now, am I overly pessimistic, or had you folks just been avoiding
    this possibility??
    
    Clark.
    
104.9I wonder how many others I've missed?DEBIT::RANDALLBonnie Randall SchutzmanThu May 21 1987 10:524
    I must be too naive -- the point suggested by .7 never even 
    occurred to me.
    
    --bonnie
104.10GCANYN::TATISTCHEFFFri May 22 1987 00:376
    <=== It is also beneath contempt.. for either party (see nose going
    up, blood feeling particularly blue today, snottiest tone possible)
    
    Seriously, something that low... 
    
    Lee
104.11Female techniques only after 5:00CSSE::HAKIMFri May 22 1987 12:1912
    One simple method....
    
    be professional, confident, rise above all the garbage and don't
    let the b*st*rds get you down ! :-)
    
    Quite frankly, it's worked for me....I am the only female in my
    department and my department supports and entirely male community
    of managers.
    
    Ann
    
    
104.12a few ideasSTUBBI::B_REINKEthe fire and the rose are oneSun May 24 1987 00:194
    be competent, be fair, be supportive of others, do your job
    well, and speak out about injustice....