Conference quark::mennotes-v1

    No.
    

A womans menstraul cycle has always amazed me, how can the body "know" 
when ~28 days have gone by (even if it varies somewhat)?

In my body, the only cycles I'm am aware of are related to heart-rate, 
breathing, hunger, sex, etc.  None of them are over 24 hours!
Have never noticed any "emotion" related cycles at all.

			Mike

    
    well the majority of the human race that suffers from hyperactivity
    are males.. and to watch the reaction that certain sugars have on
    them is every bit as drastic as any ole' PMS!
    and the craving associated with eating that sugar comes in cycles..
    so it must be connected with their body functions in some way!
    
    later, gailann
    

Well, since most of the guys I've ever met have been led through life
by their gonads, I'd say you guys were on a cycle 31 days a month!!!
Amazing what those hormones can do....!

Bugs    

    yo tell em steve
    
    
    we are even tempered
    
    I'm aleays mad..............where level = even.
    
    

    There are all kinds of biorythms. Some have a cycle that is daily,
    others are weekly and monthly.
    
    Males have rythms as much as females.

    A serious example of this: manic depression seems to follow a 14
    day cycle in both men and women.

{RE .2} - The moon tells them.

{RE .4} - If you must spout sexist slogans, at least attribute them to the
 sexist finks who originate them.  (Susan Brownmiller, in this case.)
  <_Jym_>

    I think males should insist on their right to having a cyclic
    personality change.  PMS should be a valid excuse for bizarre
    behavior without regard to gender.

    See my note 131.15 in WOMANSNOTE. Men's moods may not be determined
    by clearly defined physiologic cycles, but they sure as hell vary.
    
    -bs 
                               
    

    Please excuse the humble foreigner who's english (American ?) is
    not always what he would like it to be! Particularly when it comes
    to abbreviations. 
    
    Can anyone tell me what PMS stands for ? Thank you.
    
    			Philippe.
    
    P.S. Anyone interested insetting up a notesfile on abbreviations?
    

    
    PMS stands for "Pre-Menstrual Syndrom".  It affects some women
    by causing them to be emotionally "down" during the week or so
    preceeding the onset of their menstrual period.  This is only
    a brief definition of it.  For more detail, you can refer to
    RAINBO::WOMANNOTES.  There is a whole NOTE on it in that
    conference.  I hope this answers your question.
    
    					Joe

    It can also stand for Pre-Meditated Sick-day, which I try to
    have on occassion to save my own sanity.
    
    =ken

    Would this Male PMS applies similar to MSB (Massive Sperm Buildup)?
    
    Curious,
    
    

    
    -1 
      No thats SRH(Sperm Retention Headache)...:-)
    
    
    David

    Dog, you must have been retaining the little squirmers a LONG time, for
    them to have backed up into your head?! Have you tried a dating service?
    
    - Hoyt

    FWIW, the Tantrists and Taoists believe that when ritual intercourse
    occurs (particularly if you use one of the convoluted positions that
    are supposed to stimulate the nervous system) the female energy
    interacts with the nerve centre around the man's navel, helping to
    convert his activated but unreleased semen into a magical substance or
    esence (bindu).  This whisks its way up the lala�a (feminine nervous
    channel along the spine) and the rasa�a (masculine channel) up to the
    cakra (lotus shaped nervous ending) at the top of the head.  This cakra
    (the thousand-petalled lotus) opens into the Void, the eternal bliss of
    nothingness, and thus the adept becomes one with the dual-sexed World
    Soul.

    FWIW, the Tantrists and Taoists believe that when ritual intercourse
	...

Are you sure about the Taoists? What you describe is a reasonable description
of Tantra - though a bit simplified - but doesn't match what I know about Tao.

	-- Charles

    re .19
    
    Oh yes, the Taoists were heavily into sexual disciplines (no, not the
    whip), believing as they did that since it was the exercise of mind and
    will that lead on astray from the Path, the way back was via
    disciplining the body, of which sex was obviously the most important.
    
    So, they got off developing all sorts of sexual exercises, and, as one
    book says "Since sexual intercourse was one of the main highways to
    heaven there was no reason to remain silent about it".  Thus it was the
    Taoists who produced the world's earliest known, most detailed and most
    comprehensive sex manuals.
    
    To cut a long story short, sex increased the man's yang - provided he
    didn't go and waste all that good work in a moment's pleasurable
    weakness.  Thus, Master Tunghs�an (7th c.?) described (among other
    things) a method of coitus reservatus, whereby "[he will not ejaculate
    and] the semen will ascend inward on its account".
    
    There's lots more, but the links between the Taoists and Tantrists are
    beyond dispute.

    
    Yo Hoyt,
         Ever heard of humor:-) Lighten up...Of course you may just be
    living proof of male PMS:-)
    
    
    David

    I actually put "joke" in the title. Retroactively: ;^) ;^) ;^). OK?

    
    I don't see the Joke in the title..But your forgiven:-):-):-)
    
    
    David

    There's lots more, but the links between the Taoists and Tantrists are
    beyond dispute.

I know some taoist sexual practices, but I was under the impression that the
specific belief in the magical nature of retained sperm was a Tantric dogma. Do
you have any references to support your claim that the Taoists also believe
it?

Belief in the debilitating effects of ejaculation is actually relatively
widespread, and not limited to Taoists and Tantrics. For example, Victorians
believed semen was a vital fluid, and the loss of it reduced your life force.
This belief owed nothing to either the Tantrists nor the Taoists. Can you
give me references to the Taoist - Tantric connection? It's a subject I'm
quite interested in.

	-- Charles

    re .24
    
>specific belief in the magical nature of retained sperm was a Tantric dogma. Do
>you have any references to support your claim that the Taoists also believe
>it?
    
    The specific quote by Master Tungs�an is from Tung-hs�an-tzu XII.  An
    excellent source - if you read Latin - is Dr Robert van Gulik. 
    Unfortunately, even in the early sixties he felt the need to protect
    the uneducated masses from such sensitive information.  Try this on for
    size:
    
    "The Yellow Emperor said, 'Cum coitum perpetrate desideranti Caulis
    mihi jaspius surgere nelot, utrum sollicitare eum debeo an non?'  The
    Dark Girl said, 'Certainly not!'"  Absolutely...
    
    For a more general (and English) introduction see 'Sex in History' by
    Reay Tannahill.  His bibliography is so-so.

>"The Yellow Emperor said, 'Cum coitum perpetrate desideranti Caulis
>mihi jaspius surgere nelot, utrum sollicitare eum debeo an non?'  
    
Hahahahaha. Oh, that's rich! Too funny. Boy, this guy's hilarious. Woowee!
Wink-wink, nudge-nudge, and all that! Snorkle! 

- Hoyt

    writing about a taboo subject in latin in order to
    protect the masses from the knowledge strikes me as
    a huge pile of crap.  kind of like secret decoder
    rings and special handshakes.  one hopes to outgrow
    that need as one moves out of gradeschool.

    I don't suppose anybody around here can translate it for us so we can
    find out if it's worth all the fuss...?