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Conference quark::mennotes-v1

Title:Topics Pertaining to Men
Notice:Archived V1 - Current file is QUARK::MENNOTES
Moderator:QUARK::LIONEL
Created:Fri Nov 07 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 26 1993
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:867
Total number of notes:32923

32.0. "all about C.S.s" by --UnknownUser-- () Mon Nov 24 1986 15:42

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32.2QUARK::LIONELReality is frequently inaccurateMon Nov 24 1986 16:377
    I'm not a moderator of this conference, but in the conferences I
    do moderate, I encourage others to contact the author directly if
    something offends them.  I generally refuse to be a "go-between".
    However, I reserve the right as a reader myself to contact the author
    of a note I find offensive.  I figure if someone isn't annoyed enough
    to contact the author, then they can't be very annoyed.
    					Steve
32.3Here we go ....again.GENRAL::SURVILToo hip to be squareMon Nov 24 1986 16:404
    
    	Well Mr. Faulkner, what did you say THIS time. |^)
    
    Todd
32.5Hit KP7/SELECT...BCSE::RYANMannish BoyMon Nov 24 1986 17:1812
	Funny, just recently I started a note on this subject in
	HUMAN::ETIQUETTE. Check out that discussion.
	
	I agree, the author should be the first recourse, I think (at
	least, I'd like to believe) that most people are reasonable
	enough to avoid offense once they know about it, in many cases
	the author doesn't realize he/she is offending anyone. In
	certain cases (extremely abusive/harassing notes, for
	example), it may be appropriate to go directly to the
	moderator.
	
	Mike
32.6RDGENG::LESLIEAndy `{o}^{o}' Leslie, ECSSE, OSI.Mon Nov 24 1986 17:5823
    As a co-moderator in this file, may I explain what has been going
    on?
    
    o Mr Faulkner entered an "offensive" note. He was not reachable by
    mail as CEODEV:: did not wish to accept mail. So... the moderators
    set his offending note hidden,pending resolution of that problem.
    Now that it has been resolved, debate is hopefully to continue on
    the merits of the said note.
    
    o The moderators will, if an offended noter wishes, act as a
    go-between.  This may be to protect an offended noter from an offensive
    noter. Please see 1.*
    
    o This moderator was offended by Mr Faulkner adopting a personal
    name of "moderator" and entering rude notes in this conference.
    So I telephoned him in the absence of Email and this has been resolved.
    Thus I would like to encourage direct action.
    
    Everybody happy?
    
    Andy Leslie
    Co-Moderator
    
32.8RDGE00::KERRELLnot a promissory noteThu Nov 27 1986 07:5716
I have a problem with offended noters sending mail direct;

If the alledged offender is busy doing *work* or even off-site and
not constantly monitoring mail and/or notes then it is quite possible
for the offended noter to take further offense as the lack of
reply/action.

This kind of situation can get even more out of hand if the offended
assume you have read a complaining mail before further entries are
made within the same topic.

I would recommend that if you are _really_ offended then the moderator
should set the note hidden and enter a note within the topic explaining
what has happended before any mails start flowing.

Dave.
32.9support your local moderatorPERCH::SCOTTThu Nov 27 1986 21:3510
    re .8
    
    Fully agree with that Dave. The author of the "offending" note
    may not be quickly contactable for a valid reason in which case
    we need a "safety valve". The moderators are the obvious choice
    and we should trust them to do what is best for the MENNOTES
    conference.
    
    Roland
    
32.10Am I the only ignoramus?.TMCUK2::BANKSDavid Banks, UK Marketing Support GroupFri Nov 28 1986 06:156
    re title of this topic.
    
    What is a C.S. ?.
    
    David
    
32.11classy, huh?VORTEX::JOVANthe closer i get to you...Fri Nov 28 1986 10:225
    I suppose it means...
    
    chicken sh*t
    
    
32.12RDGENG::LESLIEAndy `{o}^{o}' Leslie, ECSSE, OSI.Fri Nov 28 1986 11:292
    I don't consider moderating dirty work. I am amazed that Mr Faulkner,
    a self-professed moderator, would.