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Conference decwet::windows-nt

Title:Windows NT
Notice:See note 15.0 for HCL location
Moderator:TARKIN::LIN.com::FOLEY
Created:Thu Oct 31 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6086
Total number of notes:31449

6065.0. "printing multiple copies of odd number of pages in duplex" by 16.201.32.75::HERTA (For something fulfilled this hour, loved, or endured) Mon Jun 02 1997 08:54

If a file contains an odd number of pages, and you request multiple copies of
that file be printed in duplex, the even numbered copies start at the back
of the last page of the odd numbered copies.  E.g. if you request two duplexed
printouts of a three page document, the first sheet of paper will have page 1
on the front, and page 2 on the rear.  The second sheet of paper will have page
3 of the first copy on the front, and page 1 of the second copy on the rear.

I got this behaviour on both Windows NT V4.0 (SP 2) and Windows 95.  Does anyone
now a workaround?

For completeness sake, the print queue needs to serve as a remote queue for
systems located on other parts of the WAN.  We prefer defining the number of
copies on the NT queue to prevent the print jobs from being copied over the WAN
multiple times.

Herta
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6065.1Print driver issue?RDVAX::akocstdhcp104-25.ako.dec.com::levyRun Like an AntelopeTue Jun 03 1997 06:1117
I'd assume this is the responsibility of the print driver to handle 
correctly.  If this is a Digital printer and printer driver, you might 
want to take up the issue in HUMANE::POSTCRIPT_PRINTING.  If this is 
another vendor's printer and print driver, you might want to contact them.

I just tried this on an LPS32 that is served from Windows NT 4.0 using the 
Digital drivers and it behaves correctly.  That is: 

	page 1 is on sheet 1 front side
	page 2 is on sheet 1 back side
	page 3 is on sheet 2 front side
	sheet 2 back side is blank
	page 1 is on sheet 3 front side
	etc.

   dave
 
6065.2anyone with HP LJ experience?16.201.32.75::HERTAFor something fulfilled this hour, loved, or enduredTue Jun 03 1997 07:4612
Re .1: Dave
> I'd assume this is the responsibility of the print driver to handle 
> correctly.  If this is a Digital printer and printer driver, you might 
> want to take up the issue in HUMANE::POSTSCRIPT_PRINTING.  If this is 
Thanks for the suggestion.  I'll ask there.

The client I'm working for is going to buy HP LaserJets 4 and 5.  Does anyone
know whether these work correctly?

Feedback highly appreciated.

Herta
6065.3Sell DigitalRDVAX::akocstdhcp104-25.ako.dec.com::levyRun Like an AntelopeTue Jun 03 1997 08:525
If they don't work correctly, here is a nice opportunity to push the 
capabilities of Digital's printers, eh?

	dave

6065.416.201.32.75::HERTAFor something fulfilled this hour, loved, or enduredTue Jun 03 1997 09:4010
Re. .3
Provided we can get ours to work properly ...

I'm afraid the customer has already decided on its desktop strategy.  The LPS
printers are only supported in the new environment because they already have
them.  Any new printers will be HPs.  (We sold them 4 ASE clusters of 
2 AlphaServer 4100 systems each, and they don't want to become too dependent 
on us ;-) )

Herta
6065.5application problem16.201.32.75::HERTAFor something fulfilled this hour, loved, or enduredTue Jun 03 1997 10:066
In the HUMANE::POSTSCRIPT_PRINTING conference, Tima Lasko pointed out it might
just as well be an application problem.  He was right.  When I print from
Notepad, it works fine.  
I guess it's time to visit ORION::WINWORD...

Herta
6065.6Word 97 is okRDVAX::akocstdhcp104-25.ako.dec.com::levyRun Like an AntelopeTue Jun 03 1997 10:263
My test was with Word 97...and it worked correctly.

	dave
6065.7utterly and totally confused16.201.32.75::HERTAFor something fulfilled this hour, loved, or enduredTue Jun 03 1997 10:4115
OK.  I managed to get completely confused.  

I currently don't have access to my NT V4.0 system where I initially encountered
the problem using Word 95, so I cannot run further tests.  The system I'm using
now runs Windows 95.  I can reproduce the problem printing from Word 97, but 
not from Notepad.

Based on some info I found in the ORION::WINWORD conference, I checked the
technet CD (March 97 - couldn't find a more recent one so quickly), and there
MS claims this feature is not a bug but intentional design.  (I'd love to hear
their arguments in support of that design.)
If that is indeed the case, the question is: "why does it work?", rather
than "why doesn't it work?"

Herta