Conference decwet::windows-nt

re Note 6054.0 by CHOWDA::GLICKMAN:

>     	Since I didn't have anything better to do this afternoon I thought
>     I would load on SP3!!  The PC kept crashing when installing that.
  
        Somewhere in either the release notes for SP3 or a Microsoft
        Tech Bulletin it says that one of the files on the 3 setup
        disks needs to be updated to be used with SP3.

          
>     	I got to a point where I couldn't even boot at all.  At least
>     one file was corrupt.  And of course I didn't write that down.
>     It was suggested to run Setup and repair to get the file back.
>     
>     	I tried that and used the 3 setup disks and CD.  During that
>     process these two files were not copied correctly:
>     
>     	RICHED20.DLL and WIN32K.SYS

        So it wasn't my copy of the CD!  I kept getting the same
        complaint about RICHED20.DLL (but not WIN32K.SYS for me) last
        week when I "repaired" my system 4 or 5 times.


>     Also, can someone explain what happens when you have a Service Pack on
>     and need to do a repair?  You have the SP files on the hard drive and
>     not the original ones installed...
  
        I believe that the repair process puts you back to the
        version base level and you need to reapply the SP afterwards. 
        (This was a problem with V3.51, I seem to remember, when some
        registry or file format changed as a result of one of the
        SPs.)

        Bob

> re Note 6054.0 by CHOWDA::GLICKMAN:
> 
> >     	Since I didn't have anything better to do this afternoon I thought
> >     I would load on SP3!!  The PC kept crashing when installing that.
>   
>         Somewhere in either the release notes for SP3 or a Microsoft
>         Tech Bulletin it says that one of the files on the 3 setup
>         disks needs to be updated to be used with SP3.
 
http://www.microsoft.com/NTServerSupport/Content/ServicePacks/Repair.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/NTServerSupport/Content/ServicePacks/Q168015.htm

        Apparently this is a problem from SP2 onward (and probably
        explains the complaint about the file(s)).

        Bob

    Thanks for the input!!
    
    I have been busily re-building my Windows NT 4.0 environment from
    scratch.  I installed Windows NT 4.0, IBM AntiVirus, IE 3.02, Pathworks
    32(including eXcursion and PowerTerm), Avance Sound Card driver, WINZIP,
    SP2.
    
    When the extract of the SP2 was done I got a message:
    
     Bad command or filename
    
    Prior to the self extract.  I removed WINZIP hoping that that was the
    problem.  The message was still there.  But I did the install anyway
    and it seemed to go fine.
     
    I found that after I installed SP2, I tried to create an ERD and
    the PC crashed at the point the format of the floppy was complete.  I
    re-booted and tried to just format a floppy.  The blue screen was:
    
    *** STOP: 0X0000000A(0X0000000C,0X00000002,0X00000000,0X801116CF)
    IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL ***
    Address 801116CF has base at 80100000 - ntosktrnl.exe
    
    CPU ID: Genuine Intel 5.2 c irql:1f 
    SYSVER 0Xf0000565
    
    This was definitely reproductible.
    
    I took out SP2 and could format a floppy.
    
    Then I decided to take out the Antivirus and put back in SP2 to see
    if there was a conflict with the two as another person in this office
    only has Windows NT 4.0and SP2 up and is able to format just fine.
    
    In the meantime, while removing this two things I now have some
    interesting messages on boot:
    
    	RpcSs.exe Entry Point Not Found
    	The procedure entry point WahRemoveContextEX could not be located
        in the dynamic link library W32HELP.dll
    
    And a message that some service wasn't started and to check in the
    Event Viewer:
    
    The NetBIOS interface service failed to start due to the following
    error: The system cannot find the file specified.
    
    The Messenger service depends on the NetBIOS Interface service which
    failed to start because of the following error:
    The system cannot find the file specified.
    
    I just tried to do the emergency repair hoping it would clean these
    things up and it didn't.
    
    Now what? 
    
    I realize I'm presenting lots of problems here.  I hope I have made
    myself clear!
    
    I appreciate any inputs while I am trying to get really good at Windows NT
    4.0!
    

    You discovered a known problem: Antivirus, SP2, and floppy access.
    It's buried in here somewhere.
    K

    >>>	RpcSs.exe Entry Point Not Found
    >>>	The procedure entry point WahRemoveContextEX could not be located
    >>> in the dynamic link library W32HELP.dll
    
    That was W2SHELP not W32HELP
    
    My TCP/IP isn't working and I get this message when I try to run
    Internet
    Explorer...
    

    re .4
    
    Silly me... I started the note for that back in March (5818.)
    
    I knew it seemed familiar!! 

    
    	Strange ... it's not like you to start a new note without looking
    	for an existing note.  8^)