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Conference decwet::windows-nt

Title:Windows NT
Notice:See note 15.0 for HCL location
Moderator:TARKIN::LIN.com::FOLEY
Created:Thu Oct 31 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6086
Total number of notes:31449

5685.0. "DEFRAG and SCANDISK" by LEMAN::FOUCHAULT (Vous ici ! Quelle bonne surprise...) Wed Feb 12 1997 07:23

    Hi,
    
    I need quickly an utility like DEFRAG and SCANDISK for WINDOWS NT 3.51
    
    Could you help me ????
    
    
    Thank you
    
    remi
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5685.1http://www.execsoft.com/SCASS1::GRESSWed Feb 12 1997 11:484
    Check http://www.execsoft.com/
    
    Regards,
    Kevin
5685.2TARKIN::LINBill LinWed Feb 12 1997 12:442
    Note that the NT 3.51 version modifies system files whereas the NT 4.0
    version does not.
5685.3LEMAN::FOUCHAULTVous ici ! Quelle bonne surprise...Thu Feb 13 1997 00:303
    thank's all
    
    remi
5685.4LEMAN::FOUCHAULTVous ici ! Quelle bonne surprise...Fri Feb 14 1997 02:023
    does some one have more input ????
    
    remi
5685.5SMURF::PBECKPaul BeckFri Feb 14 1997 07:1722
    The nearest equivalent to SCANDISK for NT that I'm aware of is the
    built-in CHKDSK run from a command window.
    
    There's also a beta of Norton Speed Disk for NT available at the
    Symantec web site, but I wouldn't recommend it; I started getting a
    flurry of (apparently unrelated) blue screens on my system (page
    fault in nonpaged area) before I finally found that it had installed
    a background service; after I disabled the service, the blue screens
    went away.
    
    The Executive Software  Diskeeper Lite mentioned in .1 doesn't do
    anything in the background (that's in the pay-for version); you have
    to manually start up each defrag operation. It's worth noting that
    there has been some discussion in the miscellaneous NT newsgroup
    about whether defragging an NTFS volume is worthwhile (general
    concensus is yes, though there are dissenters).
    
    Also note that if your disk is FAT-formatted rather than NTFS, I've
    had no problems rebooting into a Windows 95 root and using its
    defrag program. You do NOT want to use an old-style Windows disk
    management program, as it is very likely to corrupt things like long
    file names.
5685.6okLEMAN::FOUCHAULTVous ici ! Quelle bonne surprise...Mon Feb 17 1997 00:303
    Thank's fo this infor paul
    
    rmei
5685.7ROCK::STROPPAROPeter A. StropparoThu Feb 20 1997 10:405
    
    If you are using Fat-16 why couldn't you just use the 
    scandisk and defrag from Win95 while running NT 4.0?
    
    
5685.8SMURF::PBECKPaul BeckFri Feb 21 1997 06:5310
>           <<< Note 5685.7 by ROCK::STROPPARO "Peter A. Stropparo" >>>
>
>    
>    If you are using Fat-16 why couldn't you just use the 
>    scandisk and defrag from Win95 while running NT 4.0?


Because I don't believe they'd work -- they'd run afoul of NT protection.

(I don't think I've actually tried it, though.)
5685.9BHAJEE::JAERVINENOra, the Old Rural AmateurFri Feb 21 1997 07:397
    I think both need direct access to disk which won' work if you run them
    in a DOS box under Windows NT.
    
    I haven't tried it, but as stated earlier, you should be able to boot
    into Win95 and use them from there (floppy boot should be enough)if
    you're using FAT-16.
    
5685.10CSEXP1::ANDREWSI&#039;m the NRAFri Feb 21 1997 08:384
    > Because I don't believe they'd work -- they'd run afoul of NT protection.
    
    
    NT File protection doesn't work under FAT, only NTFS.
5685.11DECWET::SCHREIBERDECeNTFri Feb 21 1997 09:583
    hmm... I use Win95 defrag on my laptop regularly, but do all my work on
    the laptop with NT.  So far, no negative side effects.  Your results,
    of course, may vary.
5685.12SMURF::PBECKPaul BeckFri Feb 21 1997 14:5110
>              <<< Note 5685.10 by CSEXP1::ANDREWS "I'm the NRA" >>>
>
>    > Because I don't believe they'd work -- they'd run afoul of NT protection.
>    
>    
>    NT File protection doesn't work under FAT, only NTFS.
    
    Not the protection I was talking about. NT doesn't let J-Random
    programs access the hardware at a low level, which is what I was
    referring to.
5685.13DECWET::SCHREIBERDECeNTFri Feb 21 1997 16:462
    re .12: Right...you have to do the defrag under Win95.  Actually, I've
    never tried it under NT, just figured that it wouldn't work.
5685.14BHAJEE::JAERVINENOra, the Old Rural AmateurSat Feb 22 1997 02:281
    re .13: I have, and it doesn't.