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Conference decwet::windows-nt

Title:Windows NT
Notice:See note 15.0 for HCL location
Moderator:TARKIN::LIN.com::FOLEY
Created:Thu Oct 31 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6086
Total number of notes:31449

5491.0. "NT 4.0 SP2 Now Available" by OTOU01::MAIN (Systems Integration-Canada,621-5078) Thu Dec 19 1996 04:36

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5491.1DECWET::SCHREIBERDECeNTThu Dec 19 1996 10:031
5491.2TARKIN::LINBill LinThu Dec 19 1996 10:2911
5491.3LJSRV2::tecotoo.ibg.ljo.dec.com::mayerDanny MayerThu Dec 19 1996 11:018
5491.4DECWET::SCHREIBERDECeNTThu Dec 19 1996 13:473
5491.5TARKIN::LINBill LinThu Dec 19 1996 14:0611
5491.6NT4.0 SP2 re-released !OTOU01::MAINSystems Integration-Canada,621-5078Tue Jan 28 1997 19:3916
    
    Fyi - Microsoft has re-released NT4.0 SP2 due to packaging / zip file
    problems causing corrupted files.
    
    You will need to recopy files from web site:
    ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/bussys/winnt/winnt-public/fixes/usa/NT40/ussp2/
    
    The readme file that explains why they did this can be found at:
    ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/bussys/winnt/winnt-public/fixes/usa/NT40/ussp2/
    SP2-rezipped-PLEASE-READ!.txt
    
    Regards,
    
    / Kerry
    
    
5491.7I would like to know, WHY?KANATA::TOMKINSWed Feb 05 1997 11:3944
    My observation just reading over the bugs supposedly fixed in this
    Service Pack are that many of the bugs, just recently fixed, are very
    fundemental things. Is the Microsoft Development Process within Redmond
    "Out of Control?". Is there any regard to ISO 9000 compliance within
    the software devleopment life cycle within Microsoft? Is the current
    hodge-podge state of various Microsoft software packages release
    cycles, ie; Windows NT V4.0 reuired for Microsoft Internet Explorer
    V3.0 usage or the IIS, or maybe Visual C++ V5.0 requiring Microsoft
    Windows NT V5.0 or things like this, is this a direct reflection on the
    lack of care given to producing fine products.
    I ask these questions cause I hvae been bit by the problem of, Windows
    NT V3.51, LinkWorks V3.08 and the fact that Microsoft SQL Server V6.5
    do not play well together. You can't do the LinkWorks backup thing. So
    I hope to alleviate the problem by moving back to V6.0 or Microsoft SQL
    Server. According to a note in the V6.5 manual, if I make sure I have
    Microsoft SQL Server Service Pack 3 installed, no problem. So I do all
    this, and install Service Pack 3 on the Microsoft SQL Server, V6.0 only
    to discover in the README.TXT, that alhtought the V6.5 manual said
    otherwise, backwards migration was not technically possible to do, thus
    this capability does not exist. Now I am stuck with a munged Database,
    a banged up LinkWork setup and no way to make things work again.
    
    Oh, and where did I get the Microsoft SQL Server V6.0 you ask? Don't
    ask. It of course was not available for purchase from either a general
    software supplier or Microsoft. Microsoft SQL Server V6.5 had been
    shipping for 3 months by this time so it V6.0 was history. I had to
    borrow a copy.
    
    The thing is, the LinkWorks people were struggling to get a supported
    release out for V6.5, it's just that they too were caught up in this
    hodge-podge release cycle and they were still in final satges of
    development when Microsoft cut them, and the LinkWorks product group
    dry. Basically, 6 months of no sales due to lack of support. Now we may
    soon have V6.5 support, but we're looking at what level of support is
    there in Windows NT V4.0.
    
    The frustration that this whole process causes me as an Administrator
    of Production System is killing.
    
    I relaize that to many of you by now I seem to be venting, but I would
    like to know, is/if there is any way that we, as Microsoft's Partners
    can influence them and their processes for the better of all.
    
    Regards, Richard Tomkins
5491.82954::FOLEYhttp://axel.zko.dec.comWed Feb 05 1997 13:237

	Trying to keep up with Microsoft's release cycle is quite
	an exercise.. They pump out stuff at a blistering pace, with
	little coordination between groups.

							mike