| T.R | Title | User | Personal
Name | Date | Lines |
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| 3583.1 | | LURE::lurelap.mpo.dec.com::cerling | IXOYE | Wed Nov 01 1995 06:13 | 6 |
| 3583.2 | | WOTVAX::HUBBARDP | | Wed Nov 01 1995 09:08 | 19 |
| 3583.3 | | LURE::CERLING | IXOYE | Wed Nov 01 1995 14:43 | 8 |
| 3583.4 | don't blame me for any errors! | CHEFS::JORDAN | Chris Jordan, MS BackOffice Centre, UK | Fri Nov 03 1995 08:38 | 16 |
| 3583.5 | | CHEFS::JORDAN | Chris Jordan, MS BackOffice Centre, UK | Thu Nov 09 1995 06:00 | 6 |
| 3583.6 | | USCD::DOTEN | | Wed Mar 13 1996 10:48 | 5 |
| 3583.7 | | TARKIN::LIN | Bill Lin | Wed Mar 13 1996 13:26 | 10 |
| 3583.8 | | TARKIN::LIN | Bill Lin | Wed Mar 13 1996 13:29 | 6 |
| 3583.9 | New Performance Information? | JALOPY::CARLEN | Cloyce Carlen @Home Alone | Mon Jun 02 1997 15:09 | 25 |
| Re: .0
Is there new performance information on AlphaServers vs. Intel running
strictly as a Windows NT file and print server. An old document I found
indicates a 4-CPU Prioris performed better than an AlphaServer.
That doesn't give me a competitive advantage against ComPac.
I'll repeat the same comment at Pete:
The AlphaServer xxx is x% better (throughput) for 1000 clients that an
Intel Pxxx.
The customer I will be meeting with is only interested in Windows NT
file and print serving for now.
I'm assuming that I cannot share Chris' Spread sheet configurator with
the customer -- anything new since 1995?
I have a few days before the meeting.
Thanks,
Cloyce
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| 3583.10 | | TECO::tecotoo.mro.dec.com::mayer | Danny Mayer | Tue Jun 03 1997 06:50 | 29 |
| > Is there new performance information on AlphaServers vs. Intel running
> strictly as a Windows NT file and print server. An old document I found
> indicates a 4-CPU Prioris performed better than an AlphaServer.
>
> That doesn't give me a competitive advantage against ComPac.
>
> I'll repeat the same comment at Pete:
>
> The AlphaServer xxx is x% better (throughput) for 1000 clients that an
> Intel Pxxx.
>
> The customer I will be meeting with is only interested in Windows NT
> file and print serving for now.
>
> I'm assuming that I cannot share Chris' Spread sheet configurator with
> the customer -- anything new since 1995?
>
> I have a few days before the meeting.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cloyce
>
I doubt that Alpha will perform better than Intel for print and file
serving. Print and file serving is basically an I/O and not a CPU intensive
task, so the issues are the peripherals rather than the CPU. Most important
here is the disk controller, especially if the files are small.
Danny
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| 3583.11 | here's an option... | PCBUOA::KRATZ | | Tue Jun 03 1997 08:58 | 12 |
| re.9
>indicates a 4-CPU Prioris performed better than an AlphaServer.
>That doesn't give me a competitive advantage against ComPac.
>I'll repeat the same comment at Pete:
>The AlphaServer xxx is x% better (throughput) for 1000 clients that an
>Intel Pxxx.
Here's a concept you probably haven't considered: (put in check the
Alpha ego for a moment) Sell the customer the server that has the best
file/print server performance, best price/performance, and costs less than
COMPAQ: a DIGITAL Prioris Server.
Kratz
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| 3583.12 | ... don't forget service as competitive advantage | MPOS01::naiad.mpo.dec.com::cerling | I'[email protected] | Tue Jun 03 1997 11:54 | 10 |
| re: .9 and .11
>That doesn't give me a competitive advantage against ComPac.
In addition to quoting our excellent Intel products, you can also use
our excellent service organization as a competitive advantage. (Yes,
we also service Compaq systems, but it does require more paperwork
than the contract for our systems.)
tgc
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| 3583.13 | Thanks for the Information! | JALOPY::CARLEN | Cloyce Carlen @Home Alone | Wed Jun 04 1997 07:19 | 21 |
| Thanks for all of the good information. One would have thought that
along with a super speedy Alpha chip that DIGITAL would have developed
the total system to take advantage of this speed and power.
I will pass this information along to the AVNET Sales Rep. If any of
you could give us pointers to whitepapers and other customer sharable
documents that prove a DIGITAL Intel Prioris Server is better than
Compaq, Dell, IBM, etc. that would be a big help. We'll do our best to
win!
Tim, In this area Digital Service is becoming a myth - only because the
few remaining Field Service Engineers are running days behind in
DECservice calls and that puts Intel boxes way down the list for
service. On top of that some MCS BOZO closed the carry-in service to
further upset customers. More paper work to service Compaq's... bet
you can guess how the boys would respond to that!
Again thanks for the info.
Regards.
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| 3583.14 | | LURE::naiad.mpo.dec.com::cerling | I'[email protected] | Wed Jun 04 1997 07:54 | 14 |
|
>>Tim, In this area Digital Service is becoming a myth - only because the
>>few remaining Field Service Engineers are running days behind in
>>DECservice calls and that puts Intel boxes way down the list for
>>service.
Sorry to hear that. I guess I must be spoiled here in the Twin Cities.
We have an excellent MCS organization. I regularly hear kudos from
our customers about the great job they do. We have people who focus
on the small systems, so they get the same level of attention (as is
defined in the contract) as the large systems.
tgc
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