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Title:What's all this fuss about "sax and violins"?
Notice:Please read all replies to note 1
Moderator:QUARK::LIONEL
Created:Thu Jan 21 1993
Last Modified:Thu May 08 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:133
Total number of notes:1901

56.0. "Serious Problem - Need Help!" by ELESYS::JASNIEWSKI (Why not ask why?) Mon Jan 10 1994 12:13


	The following entry is being posted anonymously. You may contact the
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	Joe
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Hello everyone,

I'm writing regarding a very serious problem that my sister has.

First, here's some background on the situation.  My sister was raped by someone
she knew at the age of 16.  She ended up pregnant, and had my neice 1 month
after her 17th birthday.  The man who raped her knew about the child, but 
my sister said she would not turn him in on the condition that he never 
acknowledge her as his own child.  That he is to have nothing to do with either
of them. This all happened 20 years ago, and he held true to his word, until 
about a year ago.

Just shortly after my neice's 19th birthday, her true father told her about
what happened.  At first she didn't believe him, until she confronted her
mother.  My sister confirmed it, but explained the situation to her.  Now,
this "father" of hers is doing whatever he can to try and win her affection.


Now to the real problem:
 
My neice just turned 20 years old a few months ago.  In July, after a fight
with her mother, she left her mother's house, never to return.  She hasn't 
called at all.  We do know where she is at, but she hasn't contacted us at all.
My sister did go to the place where she lives, but was told she's 
"out shopping".  We do know that she is living with a friend of her boyfriend's
(the friend is female).

Just prior to her leaving, we noticed that she had been loosing a significant 
amount of weight.  She had been going out until all hours of the night, coming
home around 3-4am, sleeping until ~1:00pm, and then going out again just to
repeat the night before.  

A friend of my sisters (and also formerly a VERY Close friend of my neice's) 
met someone last week who is friends with both my neice and her boyfriend.  
She confirmed a few things that we had speculations about.

My neice's boyfriend is a drug addict, and has turned her into one.  This 
person that she talked to confirmed that my neice is VERY heavily into
Marijuana and Acid.  Possible Cocaine as well.  She has seen her do heavy
amounts of acid.

That's not the worst of this.  My neice does not have a job.  This girl had
asked my neice how she was getting the money for her drugs.  She told her
that "her father" has been getting them for her.  He told her that whatever
drug she wanted, to be sure to go to HIM instead of anyone else, to be sure
that she doesn't get some bad drugs.

My question is this:

What can my sister or the rest of her family do about this?  Is there anything
we can do?  Also, what can we do about this JERK (I've got better words for 
this guy, but this wouldn't get posted if I used them!) that is supplying her 
with her drugs?  

Most importantly, what can we do to get my neice OFF of these drugs??

Thanks in advance for any information.  

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56.1Try a Family InterventionELESYS::JASNIEWSKIWhy not ask why?Mon Jan 10 1994 12:5520
    
    	Re - anon.
    
    	It sounds to me like she's in a lot of emotional pain, quite possibly
    around the situation you described concerning her biological father. 
    
    	People often turn to drugs as a way to self-medicate their emotional 
    pain; once "convinced" that doing drugs is effective - as in _It_doesnt_
    hurt_as_much_when_I'm_"numb"_ - it can take a lot to convince someone that 
    there's a viable alternative. 
    
    	Things you can do...there's something called a "family
    intervention" that could have a positive effect on her attitude and 
    outlook. I know that they are often facilitated professionally by a 
    couselor who's well versed in "family systems" and addiction. I'd 
    suggest finding a professional, presenting them with this problem and 
    asking about getting something set up for everyone.
    
    	Joe
    
56.2no easy way outASDG::CALLMon Jan 10 1994 15:3714
    Tell your sister to go to Alanon...they will help her to cope.
    There are people there who have been through it. They know what works
    and what doesn't work. Also places to go and things to try.
    
    I know it isn't easy, but the girl is over 20 and she is going to do
    whatever it is that she is going to do. If she is into drugs she 
    will lie and cheat to get them. Also you can't say it's someone else
    to blame. They have influence I'm sure, but these problems started
    way way way before now.
    
    
    One other thing you can do is...pray for her...
    
    There isn't an easy way out.
56.3Work to strengthen what you have.MR4DEC::JONESMon Jan 10 1994 21:5250
    Whatever happens from now on is not going to be easy.  As was stated in
    the previous note, there is not much you can do for someone who does
    not want help.  First off, make sure you and the others that are
    in communication with each other are OK.  The strength you find in each
    other and in your faith in God(or your higher power) should be 
    reenforced and solidified.  Only then can you begin to find peace
    for yourselves and prepare yourself for the consequenses of this young
    woman's life...if she ever comes back to you.
    
    If she does, she will need to find unconditional love, but not
    acceptance for What she has been doing.  She must also find strength
    and acceptance for her from several angles. It is possible that no
    single person among you will be seen as having all the answers or will
    be someone she might want to spend a lot of time with only...at first.
    Getting to know her will be a whole different experience for everyone
    because none of you will be the same and you cannot have it the way it
    was.
    
    If she doesn't come back, you need to have your strength to deal with
    what comes.  It is very difficult to deal with consequences when a
    family member is involved.  However, you are dealing with a person
    who is intertwined with other people-all who are free to make their own
    decisions, right or wrong.  You cannot predict how or what will happen.
    It is easy to think the worst, but even if that happens, you have to
    have prepared yourselves to be dependent on each other and your faith
    to get you through.  Again, as a previous noter said, people at Al-anon
    collectively have been there and are working their way through similar,
    and sometimes worse situations.  There is strength in sharing and
    learning and listening.  It is incredible what you can get through
    when you find others to help.
    
    Finally, intervention works in some instances, but it has to be
    organized and you have to have some way of finding and scheduling the
    person and the support professionals to be in the same place at the
    same time.(Three Sunday's ago, in the Parade section of the Boston
    Globe, they had a profile on Pat Summeral(sp?) and it noted that 9 of
    his loving friends had surrounded him and gotten him to a retreat where
    he resisted, but found freedom from his dependency and that it
    saved/changed his life.)  If you are not in contact with this young
    woman, that could be difficult, but seek out a professional and find
    one that has experience with this before contemplating it.
    
    No matter what you do, remember, it is her life and she may be using
    this to get back at something or to beg for love, or to run...or just
    may be addicted and can't break it by herself.  You cannot really tell
    from a distance and if she is addicted, you cannot control it or change
    it without some significant crisis or opportunity for intervention.
    Until then, pray, and we pray with you.
    
    Jim
56.4HANNAH::OSMANsee HANNAH::IGLOO$:[OSMAN]ERIC.VT240Mon Jul 25 1994 11:398

What happened to the sister or her daughter ?  Have they worked things out ?

Thanks.

/Eric