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1083.1 | | WR1FOR::HOGGE_SK | Dragon Slaying...No Waiting! | Thu Oct 04 1990 21:15 | 21 |
| It may sound cold but if he is endangering you or there is a real
possibility of danger from his making a bad call... I would immediatly
go to his supervisor or your supervisor and explain that you no
longer feel safe working with the individual because of his apparent
lack of good judgement. This may seem cruel to you as it will endanger
his job... however, it seems to come down to you approaching him
about the matter and becoming harmed from him... you remaining quiet
about it and him making a mistake and again causing you harm...
or you reporting him in confidence to his/your mananger the next
time he is in that state and having him removed from the site...
It is against Digital Policy to allow a person under the influence
to work, especially in an environment where safety is an issue!
Depending on how good an empolyee the person is his manager will
either get him fired (this IS grounds for immediate dismissal from
Digital) or steer him into EAP and from there on to further counseling
for his problem... either way, if it's your own personal safety
at risk... you would be (IMHO) very foolish not to report the person
and run the risk of harm to yourself!
Skip
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1083.2 | Not your problem | YUPPY::DAVIESA | Corporate Woobie | Fri Oct 05 1990 09:14 | 23 |
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I take it you're talking about a fellow employee here.
And that you don't have a non-professional relationship with
them of any kind, right?
IMO, it is not your obligation to talk to them!
You would not be being a "nice person" or "supportive colleague" or
any other warm phrases - you'd just be getting sucked in (as you *know*
you do with alcoholics) and it will not alter the situation one
iota.
My advice?
Go and see that person's manager. Explain that you are concerned about
your co-worker purely professionally because their behaviour is
endangering your safety at work. Period.
No empathising, explaining for them, explaining that you've known
alcoholics before etc. etc.- just the facts.
Helping this person with their alcohol abuse in the context of your
work environment is plainly and firmly *not your problem*.
'gail
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1083.3 | | GWYNED::YUKONSEC | Leave the poor nits in peace! | Fri Oct 05 1990 10:50 | 8 |
| I think the thing to remember is that alcoholism is a disease, and
it is not the "kindest thing" to ignore it. If you feel uncomfortable
going to the manager, why not go to the EAP yourself? It is really
not worth your -- or his -- death to worry about his reaction. Go to
a third party (the EAP), and then know that you have done what *you*
could.
E Grace
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1083.4 | Let EAP handle it | RUTLND::GRANQUIST | | Fri Oct 05 1990 11:09 | 12 |
| I agree with previous replies, you can't let yourself get involved.
Take it to EAP, or the manager. If you choose to turn a blind eye to
the situation, it'll only get worse. If the person is worth saving,
the company will do it, they have in the past, and I tend to believe
they still would.
Why do previous respondees assume that the co-worker is a male???? I
know lots of females who have drinking problems.
Nils
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1083.5 | I should know. (*8 | GWYNED::YUKONSEC | Leave the poor nits in peace! | Fri Oct 05 1990 12:08 | 6 |
| RE: .4
You're right, I misread the base note (got the ex mixed up with the
co-worker). 'Tis true, there are lots of females who are alcoholics.
E Grace
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1083.6 | Go to your supervisor NOW! | ICS::STRIFE | | Fri Oct 05 1990 12:44 | 6 |
| The immediate concern should be getting the person OUT of the workplace
before someone is seriously hurt or killed. Go to your supervisor and
tell him/her that you have reason to believe that your co-worker is
working in an impaired condition and putting you and others at risk.
If your supervisor is unwilling to address the issue, then elevate it.
Look out for yourself. Don't let this person's problem hurt you.
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1083.7 | | SSGBPM::KENAH | I am the catalyst, but not the poison | Fri Oct 05 1990 14:58 | 8 |
| If possible, include Health Services, Personnel, and EAP in the group
you contact -- this company has a very good record of helping those who
need it, and ask for it --
Maybe your actions will help that person to ask for the help he or
she needs.
andrew
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1083.8 | | WR1FOR::HOGGE_SK | Dragon Slaying...No Waiting! | Tue Oct 09 1990 17:08 | 4 |
| Re.4... sorry my chauvanism is showing ... still used to the context
of "he" referring to both sexes. Not intentional.
Skip
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1083.9 | ditto | PARITY::ELWELL | Dirty old men need love, too. | Thu Oct 18 1990 10:46 | 7 |
| I agree with evaryone here. To leave it alone is to condone it, unkind
to that person (even if they wouldn't think so), and possibly dangerous
to you. You need to do something in the way of talking with
personnel/EAP/supervision.............even if it might seem cold at the
outset.
....Bob
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1083.10 | | VAXWRK::CONNOR | RI not AI | Mon Oct 22 1990 15:57 | 7 |
| I believe that going to this persons mgr makes sense but
make your points be very specific so that there is no room
for error. If this person did something specifically risky
then report the incidents leaving out judgment such as labeling
as an alcoholic.
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1083.11 | | HENRYY::HASLAM_BA | Creativity Unlimited | Mon Oct 22 1990 18:28 | 6 |
| To the basenoter:
What happened? I think everyone here cares about you, and probably
wonders the same thing.
Barb
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1083.12 | Response from anonymous author of base note | QUARK::HR_MODERATOR | | Tue Oct 23 1990 16:04 | 15 |
| I really appreciate the replies. They backed up my gut instincts.
Apparently I wasn't the only one who noticed this problem, another
co-worker had already spoke w/ this persons supervisor. I did
discuss the `orange book's' procedures w/ my boss. It is very
clear as to what mine and the `managements' responsibilities are.
It may get ugly, but I know now, that I did the right thing and
this situation will be handled properly.
I have been fortunate enough not to have to deal with this
person lately, but I know it's just a matter of time. I just hope
it doesn't get out of hand.....
Thank you for caring.....
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