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Conference quark::human_relations-v1

Title:What's all this fuss about 'sax and violins'?
Notice:Archived V1 - Current conference is QUARK::HUMAN_RELATIONS
Moderator:ELESYS::JASNIEWSKI
Created:Fri May 09 1986
Last Modified:Wed Jun 26 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1327
Total number of notes:28298

1009.0. "Best friend troubles" by BUSY::SECURITY (Bring on the next victims!!!) Fri May 18 1990 05:48

         My best friend and I have not talked in over six months and
    it is really starting to bother me.  Last August my friend purchased
    an apartment building and wanted me and another friend to move in
    and pay rent.  At first the idea sounded good, I'm only 21 and getting
    out of the house sounded great, but my friend is really hooked on
    money and wanted us to pay 400 dollars a month.  Well after thinking
    it over I did'nt want to spend that kind of money on an apartment
    so I told him I could not move in because I could not afford it
    while I'm in school and all.  He got really mad saying "You always
    go back on your work." So we have'nt talked in along time.
         To make matters worse he started saying things behind my back
    recently and I just want to call him and tell him to grow up but
    I also want to call him and settle things between us.  We grew up
    together and i've known him for 15yrs.
    
                     (feeling horrible)
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1009.1CONURE::AMARTINMARRS needs womenFri May 18 1990 08:253
    In my opinion, you have already answered your own question.....
    Call him and talk about it.  Talk can cure alot of things ya know.....
    
1009.2NSSG::FEINSMITHI'm the NRAWed May 30 1990 12:298
    You must also take into consideration, that he has overhead costs for
    the apartment building that must be met. I don't know where you live,
    but 400/month for an apt. doesn't sound bad as far as rents go, but if
    the money isn't there in the first place, the point is moot anyway.
    As -1 said, try a call and see where it goes. The worst thing that can
    happen is you wasted a message unit or two.
    
    Eric
1009.3TAKE it or LEAVE it!MILKWY::BUSHEEFrom the depths of shattered dreams!Mon Jun 04 1990 15:0915
    
    	RE: .2
    
    	What difference does it make if he even has zero overhead?
    	Do you ask all your landlords to show you just where evey cent
    	you pay for your rent goes? I know if it were me as the landlord,
    	I'd tell him it's none of his business and either accept the terms
    	or pack and move out. Nobody should be expected to give away an
    	apartment to another just because they are friends. To me that
    	would be taking advantage of your friend to ask for the apartment
    	and not expect to pay fair market value rent. Where is it written
    	that friendship also includes the right to a free apartment
    	furnished by your friend?
    
    	G_B
1009.4NPOGRP::MALLETTMon Jun 04 1990 16:5026
    re: .3 (George)
    
    � Nobody should be expected to give away an apartment to another 
    � just because they are friends. . .Where is it written that 
    � friendship also includes the right to a free apartment furnished 
    � by your friend?
    
    Agreed as far as it goes.  But where in the base note was it
    written that anyone expected a free apartment?  As nearly as
    I can tell that's not the issue here.
    
    From .0:
    
    � Well after thinking it over I did'nt want to spend that kind 
    � of money on an apartment so I told him I could not move in 
    � because I could not afford it while I'm in school and all.  
    � He got really mad. . .[and]. . .started saying things behind 
    � my back recently and I just want to call him and tell him to 
    � grow up but I also want to call him and settle things between us.
    
    Where is it written that a landlord has any "right" to expect
    his friend (or anyone else, for that matter to move in?  It seems
    to me that the value of the apartment isn't being questioned but
    how to go about resolving a problem between former friends.
    
    Steve
1009.5ARRODS::CARTERPyurdedbrilyant!Tue Jun 05 1990 07:0518
re .3

I don't think you read the basenote...


The issue seems to be that the guy with the apartment wanted his friend to move
in with him, but his friend couldn't afford it so the guy took the huff...

I would say talk it over with him, but you were right to say "I can't afford it"
that is surely better than moving in and then not being able to afford it and
end up owing the friend money.

If the friend really wanted you to share they could have said "Ok. what can you 
afford?"... 



Xtine
1009.6DRIP,DRIP, DRIPGLDOA::MORELANDFri Oct 05 1990 17:3620
    RE: CARTER
    
    I agree with you.  He told him that he couldn't afford the $400.00/M
    and that should have been that.  I really question his "friend's"
    commitment to this so-called "friendship."  Four hundred dollars is
    four hundred dollars and if the guy can't afford it his friend should 
    take it at that.  There was no need for him to interject "questionable"
    integrity into it; "You always go back on your word." 
    
    If I were acquainted with someone and this type of issue could cause
    such a caustic backlash I would see it for what it may be; not a real
    friendship.
    
    It's important to remember that length of acquaintance, moments shared,
    and common interest don't necessarily make for a FRIENDSHIP.  It's very
    possible that you two were never really that good of friends to begin
    with and this could just be an illumination of that probability.
    I'm not saying that this is the situation, but have you considered it?
    
                                                             
1009.7whose problem is it, really?PARITY::ELWELLDirty old men need love, too.Thu Oct 18 1990 10:538
    Seems to me that no commitment was made. You just re-thought it and
    decided not to take it. If he has a real problem with that, then maybe
    the friendship wasn't that much of one, but try to talk to him with
    no beating around the bush. If he doesn't want to hear it, then it's
    probably time to back out, and let him do what he thinks he has to. You
    will have done your part. Sounds cruel, but........
    
    ....Bob