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990.1 | big deal | PARITY::R_ELWELL | Dirty old men need love, too. | Wed Apr 18 1990 16:51 | 3 |
| Mother's day is my birthday this year.......
....Bob
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990.2 | I'm gonna take it on the chin this time | SUPER::REGNELL | Smile!--Payback is a MOTHER! | Wed Apr 18 1990 22:03 | 78 |
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You know, it seems I have spent most of my life either
living up to, or living down, contemporary myths such as
the one represented by the base note.
As a reality check, I passed the text of the note
around the table at lunch today...and got
reactions ranging from:
"Boy, isn't that the truth!?" accompanied by a lop-sided
grin.
to...
"What a piece of male-chauvinist, sexist, pap!",
accompanied by an unprintable hand signal.
The most thought-provoking comment was made by a man:
"It wouldn't pass DIGITAL 'valuing differences'
guidelines, or sexist guidelines for that matter."
Heartened by these responses, I decided to write a
reply.
Do not mistake me.
I do not think for a moment that the base note is
seriously suggesting that women who are mothers "really"
should be all of those things. Nor do I miss the
intended [I am sure] whimsey of the piece. Nor do I lack
appreciation for the art of tongue-in-cheek-while-being-
just-ever-so-slightly-serious.
I am a "Mom", and I hope sincerely that my [all too
often floundering] attempts to hold the body and soul of
my family together are appreciated.
But...
I just suspect that we are a little blase' about female
sexism when it is disguised as complimentary prose. At
least I know that I am.
If I were to write a similarly over-stated and
under-researched piece about Jews being good with money
...I would be cautioned not to be anti-semetic...even in humor.
If I were to write such a piece about blacks being lazy
...I would be reprimanded for espousing racial
stereotypes.
Yet I am expected to find this enchanting little piece
innocuous even though it supports the mis-given
notion that Mothers [women] can be all things to all
people all the time. And infers [in reverse] that if you
are a Mother [woman] and not all these things that you
are deficient in some way.
It not only sets false expectatons for other members of society
[non-Mothers] as to what Mothers are capable of
delivering; but it also sets false expectation for
Mothers themselves as to what they SHOULD be able to
accomplish.
What a deal, everybody looses.
Just because a myth appears to be made up of
complimentary components, does not mean it is any less a
myth...nor that it does no harm.
I want my son and husband to say "thank you" on Mother's
Day...but I want it to be a thank you for me being the
best I can be...while still being me...not some super
woman who is infallible, I can't make that grade. I will
fail. I can only do my best.
Melinda
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990.3 | Cute Littlr Ditty | USCTR2::DONOVAN | | Wed Apr 18 1990 23:38 | 8 |
| Well,
I thought it was cute. Described my mom to the tee!
;^),
Kate
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990.4 | <It Made Me Feel Good!!!> | GIAMEM::WELCH | | Thu Apr 19 1990 07:51 | 5 |
| Well, I'm a "Mom" and I LOVED IT........It made me feel good to read it
and these days feeling good about something seems to be awfully
important to me........
Barb
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990.5 | | PENUTS::JLAMOTTE | J & J's Memere | Thu Apr 19 1990 09:10 | 6 |
| Although I am a Mom, I am always somewhat embarrassed when Motherhood
is equated with Sainthood. I was not a saint! I didn't even do my
best but something clicked and I have four of the nicest adult children
going.
Must have been the orange juice I drank!
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990.6 | One for the GOOD vote! | PCOJCT::COHEN | In search of something wonderful | Thu Apr 19 1990 09:53 | 18 |
| I THINK IT WAS GREAT TOO...
I can't wait to write it up in calligraphy and give it to my mom on
Mothers Day...and I don''t think the piece was supposed to make all
moms look infallable...they may not all be 'Superwomen"....but my mom
sure is!!! And she doesn;'t fit all the typecasting....and she isn't a
saint...and she isn[t perfect to what the world sees...
BUT SHE IS PERFECT TO ME!
I hope that I can be half the mother to my children that she was to my
siblings and I...if I can be half that woman, my children will be very,
very lucky!!!
Jill
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990.7 | | CSC32::GORTMAKER | Only 5 more sleepless days to go! | Thu Apr 19 1990 10:13 | 3 |
| Taken entirely too serious my mom loved it too!
-j
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990.8 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Thu Apr 19 1990 11:36 | 24 |
| I'll side with Mel on this one. Each Mother's Day you see things like this,
(and there are equivalents, though less so, on Father's Day), that are
written with, as I see it, the intent of making the reader feel good. And
while on the surface there's nothing wrong with that, I find the way it's
done to be condescending and, what's more, to gloss over the fact that not
only is parenting hard work, but not everyone's cut out for it.
We seem to automatically assume that every woman who has a child will
be a good mother. (And there seems to be a similar assumption that any
man who has a child has no idea at all about raising a child, but they
say nice things that make him feel good about his ignorance anyway.)
Mothers and fathers are people - they're only human. Nobody waves a magic
wand and infuses the new parent with extra abilities, skills and knowledge.
Being a parent is a scary thing, especially if one doesn't have others handy
to lean on and learn from. Most of us manage to a sufficient extent, some
don't.
I'd rather see more effort to help parents be parents, and less about parents
being mutants with superpowers. And when Father's Day comes, I won't mind that
we'll make a lot less fuss over fathers than we do about mothers. I'll just
look at Tommy, my son, and know that I've done a pretty good job so far.
Steve
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990.9 | Everyone has faults; why dwell on those? | QUILL::BNELSON | Your Own Sweet Way | Thu Apr 19 1990 12:27 | 20 |
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Gee, I thought it was *great*!
I don't know, I just didn't read into it a lot of the things that
some others seem to have read. I took it as a reminder of all the
wonderful and varied things that moms do for us when we're growing up
(and sometimes even after that ;-)). For some reason, and I'm not
sure why, it just never occurred to me that "mom" equates to "Saint" or
"Superwoman" while reading that piece. I know my mom is quite fallible
and has lots of foibles and has made lots of mistakes; perhaps I just
prefer to dwell on the good things, and this piece reminded me of them.
Thank you for posting it, I plan to extract it and give it to my
mom in her Mother's Day card! I'm sure she'll love it!
Brian
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990.10 | Too much negativism | MFGMEM::BENCH | In Claude We Trust | Thu Apr 19 1990 13:48 | 9 |
| RE: .9
I'm with you. So what if mothers and fathers aren't perfect.
I see nothing wrong with saying something nice about them.
Even if there are excesses, I'd prefer to be excessively nice
to someone rather than always looking to point out someone's faults.
Claude
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990.11 | The LOVE Is Perfect | USCTR2::DONOVAN | | Fri Apr 20 1990 03:46 | 8 |
| No, we Moms aren't perfect. But on Mother's Day we don't need a card
reminding us of our imperfections.
Through all my faults, I must say the LOVE I have for my children IS
perfect.
Kate
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990.12 | I expected some controversy....
| NCDEL::LITASI | to the land of Gitchi-Goommie.... | Fri Apr 20 1990 15:29 | 25 |
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When I read the copy sent to me by my mom, in the ONLY letter she
has sent me in the last year (she always phones), I felt good. I
have been going through some very rough times getting moved to
Minnesota, and was feeling guilty about my parenting getting
neglected while I tended to myself. I began to appreciate the
good things I do as a mother.
Even so, I agree with the comments about sainthood and fatherhood.
I expected some negative reaction and I'm pleased about the positive
comments. I sent it around via ALL-IN-1 mail in my office, and have
gotten a wide variety of comments from people sending mail thanking
me, people stopping in the halls to thank me, and a nastigram about
wasting diskspace. The one that really surprised me was an unsigned
interoffice note critical of the "flippant" attitude about God.
What people forget, though some have alluded to, is that most of
our mothers have been raised to value the sentiments in this story.
It really doesn't matter if it's sexist or irreverant, most of our
mothers will like it. I'd give it to my mom if I could....though
she liked it well enough to share it with me.
peace to all of you!
Sherry
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990.13 | INTENT vs CONTENT | SUPER::REGNELL | Smile!--Payback is a MOTHER! | Fri Apr 20 1990 23:04 | 37 |
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Just wanted to try to make myself a little clearer. {Yes, I know
you all are still going to think I am off-base, but I wanted to correct
what seems to be a mis-read of what Steve and I said.}
I have no problem with the INTENT of the piece. I think that it's
wonderful to let people know when they are special and I think
[minus the comercialism] that Mother's and Father's Days are
nice times to treat those particular folks specially.
My argument was with the CONTENT not the INTENT.
If we saw a piece of blatantly non-factual material that
was derogatory, we would all rush about and denounce it for the
misleading piece of rhetoric that is was.
It just seems to me that because the outcome in this case is
complimentary, we are willing to disregard its lack of veracity.
The majority of people seem to see a difference between an
untruth that appears harmful and one that appears harmless.
{I will not bother to argue the point that there are scads
of young women out there trying to live up to these
unrealistic expectations...}
I do not. The content of the piece...is a patent lie. Regardless of
INTENT, the CONTENT is false. There are no people like that. There are
just good and wonderful people doing the best they can for the people
they love.
This is just a personal opinion, but I would prefer to have a
compliment that has less flourish and is truth...than one that
is a lie.
Melinda
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