Conference quark::human_relations-v1

    I'm not a man, but speaking as a woman, I'd rather look in the mirror
    and see Di looking back at me, than Fergie!!!
    
    If 99% of all men in the world wanted "their" women to look like
    Fergie, there would be no Weight Watchers, no jogging, no weight
    lifting for women, no Christy Brinkley or Brooke Shields, and I'd
    go out and have 3 banana splits and 4 lbs. of chocolates after work
    today.
    
    Do you think it's true that 99% of all men wish they looked like
    Danny Devito?
    
    Lorna
    

    
>    Do you think it's true that 99% of all men wish they looked like
>    Danny Devito?

Guess not, but wouldn't it be loverly if my bank account looked 
exactly like his?
    
-- Ron

    The fitness expert's name is Callan Pickney and she was referring
    to Ferge's NEW figure. She has evidently slimmed down.

    Know what my philosophy is? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
    My second philosophy...the heck with Danny Devito's bank account...I
    rather have Fergies!...gotta go for the big time!
    
                                        Lynne

    I tend to agree w/ 0.4: "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".
    
    It's more important that Fergie makes the most of what she has by
    exercising and taking good care of herself.  Even if she doesn't
    end up becoming ANYONE'S idea of "the perfect 10", at least she
    knows that she is taking good care of her body.
    
    Prince Andrew seems to appreciate her......

    I'm too short to have a figure like Fergie's!
    
    :-)
    
    Carol
    

    
    RE: .6
    
    Carol,
    	You have nothing to worry about!
    
    Gary
    

                      
    If someone were to ask....whom would you rather be:  Princess Diana
    or Sarah, Duchess of York (figures included), I would undoubtedly
    say Sarah.  There is more to life than being skin and bones and
    I'd say that the life of Diana since becoming a Princess is proof.
    I'm not sure I would like the life of either...but I'd be willing
    to try :-)  I wonder if Prince Edward likes older women ;-)
                                                               
                                                               
                                                               
    Not to change the subject, but do you think people would be happier
    if society would quit projecting the idea of how everyone should
    look?  (Of course if this was to happen tanning salons, beauty
    parlors, makeup counters, health spas, diet centers, and such would 
    go out of business.)                                       
                                                               
                                                               
    Kris                                                           
    
    

	 RE: Carol....

	 Well, if you'd work out with me more in the mornings maybe
	 you would!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	 8^)

	 kath

 
    Re: .7
    
    Thanks! <blush>
    
    Re: .9
    
    :-)  And WHO hurts more than I do after skiing yesterday?????
    
    :-)  :-)
    
    
    Carol
    

    I think Paulina (the model) has the perfect figure....but who wants
    perfection......:-)
    
    
    Bill

    Women would like to have figure of Duchess of York,
    Men would rather have bank balance of Danny Devito.

    I'm shooting for the Loni Andersen look.... - but if I never quite
    get there, I don't think I'll really be too bothered.  As long as
    I feel and look (in THAT order) as good as I possibly can...I'm
    satisfied.
    
    -Jody
    

RE: .11

	I agree! Pauline Poriskova (sp?) or Elle McPherson have figures
	that aren't "too skinny". (Just about right in my eyes! heheheheh)
	AND they have the bank account! :-) {just jokin}

	A guys perfect figure?  Patrick Swayze. Or Tom Selleck.  When I
	go up to ZK and start back to working out, I'm gonna go for either. :-)

							mike

    If I had to choose between Princess Di's figure or Fergie's figure,
    I would prefer Di's figure*
    
    As long as a person's in good health, and has no illness...every
    figure (thin or pleasingly plump) should be "perfect"(but there
    is nothing wrong with perfecting that figure).
    
    * Di's Bank Figure!!!!

    What I would like to shoot for is MichealAngelo's David..  I know
    that he is young by why not shoot for a work of art....:-)
    
    I'd also like to have it's worth in my bank account....8-)...
    
    Bill

	 *I'LL* take Patrick Swayze's body anyday, too!  8^)

	 yummmmm, yummm.....

	 

	 oh you mean who do *I* wanna look like...  shucks.....

	 I wanna look like ME!!!!!!!  8^)

	 k

    I one had the figure most guys like in a gal. I went from a 11/12
    to a 5/6 and when I went to my doctor for a checkup I ws told either
    I start gaining some weight back or in five days I would find myself
    in the hospital on a weight gain program. 
      Today my doctors have told me i look better than I have in the
    6 years I have been with them. today I am as heavy as I was when
    I WAS 9 months pregnant, but I am so happy and feelso healthy.
    My boyfriend says skinny was nicebut he had nothing to hang onto.
    nad he says I'm not fat just fluffy and as long as my docotrs say
    I'm healthyand have nothing to worry about then he's not going to
    worry about my weight either.
    
    
                             Lisa

    
    	I was under the impression that what type figure's are "in" changes
    with time; I've heard that it wasnt until 1963 (advent_of_twiggy) that
    the "sliced thin" figures became all the rage or whatever -
    
    	A couple of hundred years ago, f -er- plump figures were the
    most desirable. They reflected the general well-being and economic
    status of the individual, because most "thin" people of that time
    were that way resulting from being poor and consequently malnurished!
    
    	Personally, I like "firm", which is an attribute that can exist
    independantly from the "fat/skinny" generalization.   
                                                 
    	Joe Jas
    

    		
    
    
    		Mine, of course!! #:)
    
    	

    
    Sarah has a perfect figure if you ask me.
    
    Also she has *red hair*... yow!

    A VARGA GIRL
    
    if only they were real
    
    

    
    Jessica from the movie "Who framed Roger Rabbit" has the Purrrfect
    figure..... ;') 
              
    Brian 00
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  I remember getting severely tongue-lashed (oooh, what fun!) a few years ago
when I commented, unknowingly, to a Princess Di fan that I thought Fergie was
more "attractive" in many aspects than Di.  Still do.  

    re: .24
    
    She's not bad, she's just drawn that way.....8-)
    
    Bill

    I wanna look like Katharine Hepburn.  Especially when I retire!
    

    Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sylvester Stallone both have perfect figures.
     Their faces aren't as cute as some, Mel Gibson or Dennis Quaid,
    for example, most of their movies stink and Arnold's politics s**k,
    but their bodies are very perfect.  Unfortunately, I haven't seen
    any more men walking around DEC who are build like them than I have
    women who are built like Jessica Rabbit or Loni Anderson.  Most
    of us just aren't perfect.
    
    Lorna
    

    now, if you REALLY want a perfect figure.....
    
    Check out Tom Cruise
    
    :-)

    re .28
    
    Just wondering if you realize the effort that goes into the
    Arnold/Rambo physique.  Years of intense training to bulk up,
    and months of tougher training, and strict dieting to peak for
    a movie.  All with the help of profesional trainers/nutritionists.
    Many people are born with the genetic potentiel for a rambo figure,
    but nobody will attain it without the effort.  This is why you don't
    see too many of that type cruising the halls of DEC.
    
    Did you ever see pictures of Stallone in the x-rated stage of his 
    career?  no rippling muscles then . . .
        
    jc

    Re: .29
    
    >Check out Tom Cruise
    
    Alas, he's not available in my local library ....

Re: .30
    
   > Did you ever see pictures of Stallone in the x-rated stage of his 
   > career?  no rippling muscles then . . .
        
    
   Well, I'm pretty sure that there was at least *one* that rippled. :-)
    
     Alan

    perfect for who
    for me or for you???
    
    one is perfect if one is happy with oneself.
    
    while perfection is something we cannot achieve, it must be strived
    for.
    
    (take your pick of the three, one should fit everyone)
    

    I think Pie is a good figure....B-)

.34>    Of course, it comes natural to some of us.


		gag.....

    I've started dieting AND weight training with a former Mr. NH and
    a few others. To get to the point that these guys have w/o steroids
    takes tremendous effort. 3-6 Hours a day, 7 days a week, pushing
    free weight until the muscles actually burn from oxygenated blood
    flow. I've been at it for three weeks and I still have a tire around
    my middle, but I can actually feel the difference in my arms, chest,
    and legs already. I don't know how far I want to carry this. I don't
    want to dedicate 12-15 hours a week to a self adoration regieme.
    
    The diet is harder to stick to. A year and half ago I lost 35 lbs
    in 6 six weeks on the nutri-system plan but as soon as I went off
    their food I started gaining it back.
    
    So what am I saying? Once you find the you that you like and want,
    you'll do what you have to in order to keep that you. The important
    thing that I've discovered is that I like me, regardless of the
    packaging and so do my wife and kids........that's important!!!
    
    Ken

    Re .29, .31, Tom Cruise, I think he has a perfect face and perfect
    teeth (I can't *believe* that man's smile!) and he was probably
    just born that way.  It isn't fair.  There should either be no men
    that good looking or enough to go around! :-)  If he could be checked
    out of a library, I'm sure I'd keep on checking him out, over and
    over again.
    
    Lorna
    

RE: .38

>    ... Tom Cruise, I think he has ... perfect teeth (I can't
>   *believe* that man's smile!) and he was probably just born
>   that way.

If you can afford it, you, too, can have such a smile. You can buy
it at many dentists. 

-- Ron

    
    Tom Cruise is really a hologram...

    Re .41, ha-ha.  I think he's a genetic accident.  Maybe the teeth
    aren't real but the complete face, shape of smile, .... it can't
    all be fake...can it?
    
    Re Mike Z., you stopped seeing a woman just because her tooth was
    capped?  Don't you think that's just a tad shallow?  Especially
    when she was having a good enough time to laugh during dinner? 
    I can understand your being startled but....   Once I was talking
    to a guy at work and his tooth (it was a bridge I guess) just fell
    right out of his mouth and he caught it and crammed it back in.
     He looked embarrassed and I was mortified for him, but I pretended
    it didn't happen because I didn't know what else to do. :-)
    
    Lorna
    

    Perfection is a myth.
    
    Tom Cruise is really Disney animitronics.
    
    roger
    

       RE: .42
       
       
       	Mike would rather spread himself out and be shallow than be
       deep and narrow.. :-)
       
       	dig,dig,dig
       
       						mike

    remember.....
    
    		love is blind......and there is no accounting for taste...
    
    
    having said that I cast my vote for Kim Bassinger with or without
    her bank account.  
    
    
    

    Re  Mike Z., oh, you are the one who laughed.  Now, I get it.  Her
    cap feel off, you laughed, she got mad and wouldn't see you again.
     I thought you meant her cap fell off when she laughed and you didn't
    want to date her after you found out her teeth were capped!!  She
    obviously had no sense of humor anyway, and who knows how often
    those caps would keep popping off. :-)
    
    Re .46, if I were a man I would agree with you about Kim Basinger.
     I think she's the most beautiful famous woman in the world today.
     
    But, as we all know, looks aren't everything, and we do have to
    have something interesting to talk about on dates, don't we?  To
    say nothing of common interests, religious and political views and
    hobbies. :-)
    
    Lorna
    

    Check me out!!!!!!!!
    

    
    re. -48
    
    Okay..........
    
    BTW. of what gender do you consider yourself ??
    
    Brian

    ... Kim Basinger is good...
    
    ... then there's Kelly LeBrock ("Wierd Science" and the Pantene
    commercials)...
    

    	Don't be fooled, Mike, it's all done with mirrors.  ;-)
    
    						   Carla
    

       The perfect figure $1,000,000 - in MY bank account. liesl

    > doesn't have to be blonde....
    
    Blondes have more fun!!!  Take it from a blonde!!
    
    -Lynn
    

    More fun than who? Salmon Rashde? Your average ditchdigger?
    Incarcerated prisoners in San Quentin?
    
    _roger
    

RE: .55
    
>    Blondes have more fun!!!


After all, they view life from it's **lighter** side :-).

-- Ron    

    RE: .57
    
    > Blondes have more fun!!
    
    Your right Ron.  I may view things from the lighter side, but at
    least I have *fun* while I'm doing it and enjoy life.
    
    -Lynn
    

    
    Re: past three or four replys.
    
       Blonds may have more fun but give me a redhead anyday......
    
                                                         Bill
    

    re: .59
    
    	Amen!
    
    					Carla_the_redhead
    

        Good telepathy, Zarli!  =8-)
    

    
    
    		Gentlemen prefer Blondes
                Dream about Redheads
    
                Marry Brunettes!!!!
    
    (from an old newspaper)
    
    

    Calico is nice....I have a friend who is all three naturally...
    Kind of a cross between a blonde, a brunette and a red head.  Her
    eyes change color also....She is very attractive...
    
    Bill

    Blondes have more fun......
    
    
    with blondes, brunettes, redheads.....
          
    dv

    
    I wouldn't know who has *more* fun, because I've never been a brunette
    or a redhead (unless you want to count that flaming fuschia streak
    that I've had in varying degrees over the last 5 years) but I
    am a blonde (naturally "boring blonde" currently "artificially
    jazzed-up" blonde) and I know I have a *lot* of fun!
    
    I almost was a redhead once, I got the urge to dye my a burgundy
    magenta color, but my hairdresser talked me out of it.
    
    Dilly

    Blondes with deep tans simply melt me!  And.... spring and summer
    is moving in!!!!  Can't wait to lie around the pool!  That's the
    great thing about working third shift... I have all day to soak
    up the sun and check out the scenery!  
    
    Dwight

    
    No tans for me, thanks.
    
    Maybe a little healthy color so I know it's summer, but I stay
    OUT of the sun.
    
    I am doing a little experiment, a "bet" with my friends.
    They bake at the beach all summer, visit the tanning beds all
    winter.  They think they look great.  Maybe now they do...
    Not me, I stay out of the sun and take care of my skin.
    We'll wait and see who looks the best at 40!!
    
    I'm 21 now but don't plan to physically age past 35.
    (I want to die when I'm real old.  When people see my obituary
    and find out I was 99 or something, I want them to say "Hot damn!
    That Dilly has been saying she was 35, but I knew she was bluffing.
    I thought maybe she was about 42!"
    
    Time will tell.  Pale skin is in!
    
    Dilly

    	Those babes with tans are going to have leather faces in 10
    	years if they don't already.  I stopped laying out last year 
    	because I don't want to look like a raisin when I'm 30.
    
    						Carla_the_Vampire
    

    I grew up on the beach.  I have been a "beach blanket bunny" way,
    way back in the stone age.  I was ALWAYS in the sun.  I am well
    past 30 and my skin does not look like a raisin, thank goodness.
    I still sit in sun.  I know it's bad, but I am blonde and I love
    having a tan.  I do not recommend this for everyone, I guess I am
    just lucky.
    
    But I really think the artificial beach (tanning beds) are much worse
    than the sun.  The tanning beds can penetrate many more layers of skin
    causing deeper skin damage than the sun.  I'll take the real
    thing....that's bad enough.    

    -Dotti.  "I'll follow the sun."

    
    RE:  the last 3 or 4 notes.
    
    From the author of "Blondes have more fun"..........
    
    I'm from Colorado - where we lived closer to the sun.  You can get
    a tan all year around.  Enjoying the sun in the summer by high 
    mountain lakes, and enjoying the sun in the winter (on a nice day)
    while skiing down a mountain.....and I'm proud to be a part of the
    bikini skiing crowd.
    
    I like getting a tan because I like being in the sun - I'm not 30
    yet and have been working on a tan since my early teens, I'm not
    dried up like a raisin and my skin is in great shape, although I
    am aware of the problems down the road with too much sun exposure,
    if done in moderation, I'm sure I'll be fine.
    
    I now live in the mid-west within blocks of Lake Michigan (Wisconsin
    side) where summertime is like living by the ocean - the tans run
    rampid on the young and old - people look healthy and seem to really
    enjoy themselves in the sunshine.
    
    I am a true blonde and also love being tan.
    
    -Lynn

    The worst part about a tan is tan lines. It always makes me think
    of a custom paint job on a fancy sports car with a an unpainted
    strip running across the hood.
    
    -j

    
    RE: .72
    
      I agree - the sun can turn your skin into leather.
    
      ......but I'll enjoy it while I can and in the mean time
      try to take a little caution.
    
    -Lynn
    

Some people tan all their life and look great.  Others "over-do" for their
skin type and look "weathered."  

Some people never tan.  Healthy or not, they may look weak, sickly, and
fragile.  Some do, some don't.

Some people like the "pale" look.  Others prefer some color to the skin.

Too much sun or tanning salon can be unhealthy.  Depends on which doctor
report you read last.  I use both.  Have for years.

I've seen older folks with tans that look bad.  I've seen older folks with no
"color" that look like they have died already.  I've seen more older folks
without tans that look terrible, than the reverse.  It all gets down to
personal likes. 

For me, I prefer color in the skin.  Most people do.  Look at any beauty
contest, or any body building contest.  A wo/man without a tan won't stand
a chance if s/he come in looking like Snow White.

Love those California girls....

               As Bobbie Brown says, "That's my prerogative." 

			       				Dwight

	 When i lived in arizona i had a natural tan, now i have to
	 work at it.... 8^(


	 i feel healthier when my skin is tanned...i would much rather
	 take my risks and get a tan, than spend time outside with
	 white skin and burn--burning does much more damage to your
	 skin than a gradual tan ever will (at least in my book!)

	 k

    <---.73
    
    Yeah, but nothing's wrong with my "white parts"  #:-)
    (tee hee)
    
    
    -Dotti.

    With the ozone layer quickly be destroyed or depleted -  perhaps
    irreversibly during our lifetime, maybe tans or tanning will 
    eventually become a thing of the past. Unless artifically induced.
    
    Getting back on track - my blonde, blue eyed scandihovian S.O.
    has the the perfect figure.  She works in MKO but I won't say 
    where just to keep the traffic down and not cause a stir.
    
    
    

    something i will never have