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339.1 | Here you go | HULK::DJPL | Do you believe in magic? | Mon Jul 06 1987 10:20 | 7 |
| It means "Significant Other".
Some people have gotten hung up on what-word-to-use and had to wrestle with
husband, wife, boyfriend, girlfriend, lover, mate, spouse, well, you get
the idea.
Typing SO is a lot quicker than any of the above.
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339.2 | is Miss Manners in the house? | WEBSTR::RANDALL | I'm no lady | Mon Jul 06 1987 17:55 | 16 |
| We had a discussion at lunch about using the term SO.
One of the women involved felt that it was not polite to use any of the
more specific terms unless you were actually discussing the nature of
the relationship. She said, for example, that it was rude of me to
always refer to my husband as my husband or my spouse (even though
that's what he is) because it implied I thought that only relationships
involving heterosexual marriage are valid.
I must confess I never gave any thought to this interpretation.
Does it strike anyone else as reasonable? I certainly have no
objection to referring to my "SO" if people consider it a better
term. On the other hand, I don't feel any need to hide the exact
nature of our relationship, either.
--bonnie
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339.3 | Be personal | QUARK::LIONEL | We all live in a yellow subroutine | Mon Jul 06 1987 18:14 | 7 |
| I've gotten complaints that I kept referring to "my SO" or "my
fiancee" instead of just using her name! It's been pointed out
that I tend to depersonalize both myself and others when I talk.
Perhaps you can just use his name and only add the relation
if relevant? Most people would pick it up from the context.
Steve
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339.4 | How special (to mix one's roles) | DSSDEV::BURROWS | Jim Burrows | Mon Jul 06 1987 18:22 | 31 |
| Gentle noter,
Fear not, calling your husband "your husband", is not a serious
breach of etiquette, nor so far as I can tell, a breach of
etiquette at all. The idea that just because you believe in
marriage for yourself and chose to marry the man in your life
you must believe that only heterosexual marriage is valid deos
not stand up.
It is quite possible to believe in marriage and to still
recognize the rights of others to not marry ad even to choose
some other arrangement. It is even possible for one person to
live in an happy unmarried state and then to get married without
disapproving of their previous behavior.
Personally, it strikes me that someone who sees the mere
identification of one's spouse as one's spouse and the use of
terms like wife and husband threatening, is reacting more to
their own insecurity than to any real implication of moral
disapproval.
Of course, many of us do have delicate sensabilities, and it is
polite to not tread to heavily on them. If you have a friend who
can't believe that references to your own life do not imply a
criticism of theirs, and their friendship is important to you,
you may want to speak with some care around them. In like
fashion if one were gay and had a friend who was a
fundementalist Christian, one might for the sake of friendship,
not wish to speak candidly of one's lover.
JimB. (As dear Miss Manners appears to be off the net.)
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339.5 | We would say A.S. = Ame Soeur | AZUR::FAYAUD | i whish i was a magician | Mon Jul 06 1987 19:05 | 11 |
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Thank you 339.1, I get the message.
I thought of Soal Owner, Share offer, Silent One, Savant Only,
Salad Onion... but I didn't think of Significant Other.
For me, all Others are Significant.
Rita
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339.6 | | AIMHI::KRISTY | Making music... | Mon Jul 06 1987 19:42 | 10 |
| With people who know both Daryl (my SO, husband, special man in
my life) and I, I use his name when talking about him to someone.
When the person (or persons) with whom I am speaking doesn't know
Daryl, then I commonly refer to him as "My husband" or "My hubby"
(more common).
Since it doesn't offend Daryl to be referred to as "my husband",
I would hope that it wouldn't offend anyone else.
*** Kristy ***
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339.7 | emotional outburst, gentle reader | STUBBI::B_REINKE | laughter of children in the trees | Mon Jul 06 1987 23:00 | 8 |
| Perhaps those who get 'hung up' on people saying husband
or wife or fiance(e) are "termist"
sigh.....
*WHO CARES* ?
Bonnie
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339.9 | discussion among friends | WEBSTR::RANDALL | I'm no lady | Tue Jul 07 1987 09:47 | 12 |
| re: .7 (Bonnie R) --
It wasn't an unsolicited remark; I was at lunch with a couple of
friends (one married and one divorced, both mothers and neither from
DEC) and since this topic was being discussed in the notes file I
brought it up to get their opinions on it, thinking they might have a
different perspective on it.
We also talked about yuppie breeders -- I'll enter some of that
in the breeder note if I get time today.
--bonnie
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339.10 | Actually it really means Sex Object | SERPNT::SONTAKKE | Vikas Sontakke | Tue Jul 07 1987 09:52 | 11 |
| RE: .0
If you wanted to invite few friends / acquaintances over to your place
and were to make a VAXmail distribution list, it would make sense to
use word SO rather than using terms like husband / wife / spouse /
girlfriend / boyfriend / lover etc.
SO is supposed to be non-gender specific term, to be used when you
want a more generalized term.
- Vikas
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339.11 | SO = Significant One | YODA::BARANSKI | What, I owe you money?!? | Tue Jul 07 1987 11:33 | 0 |
339.12 | | KLAATU::THIBAULT | Chippin' away... | Tue Jul 07 1987 13:12 | 4 |
| I still prefer 'sweet baboo' (or sb for the lazy at heart) to anything
else, and my sb doesn't seem to mind.
Jenna
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339.13 | or | NCVAX1::COOPER | studette in action | Tue Jul 07 1987 16:48 | 4 |
| re: .11
SO = Significant Other
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339.14 | echos? | STUBBI::B_REINKE | laughter of children in the trees | Tue Jul 07 1987 23:33 | 1 |
| re .13 (re .11) see .1
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339.15 | ok, so I missed it.... | NCVAX1::COOPER | studette in action | Wed Jul 08 1987 18:54 | 1 |
| now what
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339.16 | go directly to jail :-) | PRESTO::MITCHELL | Lady | Wed Jul 08 1987 20:53 | 3 |
| re .15
do not pass go...do not collect $200.....
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339.17 | $.02 | GCANYN::TATISTCHEFF | | Thu Jul 09 1987 09:27 | 4 |
| Personally, I prefer to use "my honey" when talking about a specifc
person, and SO when talking in the abstract.
Lee
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339.18 | Cant We Do Better? | VAXWRK::CONNOR | San Andreas It's All Your Fault | Thu Jul 09 1987 14:57 | 8 |
| I find it difficult to use what seems to me such an abstract
term. Also it seems that a significant other (I am tempted
to ask other what :-} ) could be someone you dont care for
such as a bill collector, who certainly is significant.
Anyway why do so many people hide their relationships with
SO ( I want you to meet my SO - gads). What about at least
saying SP for special person - or would SP get confused with
SPelling :-}.
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339.19 | | ARMORY::SEABURYM | | Thu Jul 09 1987 16:01 | 13 |
|
Re.18
I certainly hope we can do better. The term SO means there are
IO's,insignificant others and that is an idea whose time I hope
never comes. I may not know someone or like someone and I may even
hate someone, but no human is, was or ever shall be insignificant !
I usually refer to my wife simply as, Elaine, if someone asks
who Elaine is I tell them.
Mike
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339.21 | another... | YAZOO::B_REINKE | laughter of children in the trees | Thu Jul 09 1987 17:08 | 6 |
| tho it's been said before....I still have a fondness for
posslq - tho that doesn't apply to as many kinds of people
as so does.....
Posslq comes from the census forms - persons of opposite sex
sharing living quarters.
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339.22 | pssslq is hard to pronounce | WEBSTR::RANDALL | I'm no lady | Thu Jul 09 1987 17:29 | 13 |
| Wasn't there a song or book titled "There's Nothing That
I Wouldn't Do If You Would Be My POSSLQ"? (pronounced possle-cue)
One of the main purposes of SO, at least the way I use it, is to cover
the possibility that the person I'm talking to has a partner of the
same, rather than the opposite sex.
Re: a couple back, about boyfriends:
My 78-year-old grandmother refers to her 66-year-old POSSLQ as her
boyfriend. . .
--bonnie
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339.24 | possil-cue | STUBBI::B_REINKE | where the side walk ends | Thu Jul 09 1987 22:56 | 7 |
| Posslq is pronounced Possil-cue....and yes there was a poem
published in the Boston Globe with the refrain 'there isn't anything
I wouldn' do, if you would be my posslq." I think it was published
in a Mike Barnicle column but after all these years my memory
is unreliable....
Bonnie
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339.25 | | RITZ::GKE | from a *new* side of the pond! | Fri Jul 10 1987 08:45 | 16 |
|
Richard calls me his "Misses" or simply, Gail.. I don't mind it, in fact
I sort of like it. I call him my "husband" or simply, Richard .. I hate
the term "SO" I have tried to come to terms with it as I know so many
that think it is a good way of bridging the terms for husband, wife,
girlfriend, boyfriend ect ect.. but I still don't like it.
One thing I hate worse than SO is "other half".. that one really
gets me in neck. I think when all else fails a name does nicely.
I have some gay friends that say "lover" when not using a name to refer
to their partners.. It took some getting used to on my part but after
a while I did get used to it and it no longer sounds different to me.
gailann
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339.26 | I rather like it, it enhances privacy :') | VIKING::TARBET | Margaret Mairhi | Fri Jul 10 1987 10:20 | 13 |
| Well, for all the folks who think that the best thing about California
is that it may fall into the Pacific someday...
As far as I can remember, the term "Significant Other" came from the
Humanistic Psychology movement that started at therapy centers such as
Esalen. The motivation behind it was, of course, that it is a nicely
generic term that indicates an unusual degree of closeness without
specifying the nature of the relationship. Actually, it was originally
probably used as often in the plural to mean "family and friends" as in
the singular to mean spouse/lover. Restricting its use to the singular
form seems pretty recent.
=maggie
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339.27 | Alternatively... | REGENT::BROOMHEAD | Don't panic -- yet. | Fri Jul 10 1987 14:01 | 8 |
| Many years ago I encountered the term "erum" for those not-licit
pairings. The argument was, well, this is how you're introducing
him/her anyhow: "Mom, dad, this is my, er, um, friend Joe."
I've been pushing this ever since. "Erum" for males, and "erah"
for females, to give it a classical, Latin pseudo-background.
Ann B.
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339.28 | | ERIS::CALLAS | All good things... | Fri Jul 10 1987 15:05 | 7 |
| I think there are perfectly good places to use the term SO. For example
an invitation to a party might say, "Feel free to bring your SO."
Meaning, "don't bring merely a date, but don't not bring someone simply
because you're not married." I have a friend who used the term
"spouse-equivalent" to mean the same thing.
Jon
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339.29 | You can't be too careful | VIDEO::HOFFMAN | | Fri Jul 17 1987 14:19 | 10 |
|
> One thing I hate worse than SO is "other half".. that one really
> gets me in neck.
One that is supposedly worse is 'better half', as in "...and where
is your better half?' which I asked a fellow employee at an office
party. Turned out she was getting a divorce... That question turned
her from a pleasant acquaintance to a hating enemy.
-- Ron
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339.30 | Sweet baboo too | YODA::HOPKINS | | Wed Jul 22 1987 14:08 | 9 |
| re: 339.12
I got a great chuckle out of that one!!!! My sweet baboo has always
worked with us. Unfortunatly it's not one we can use when someone
asks, "who's Joe". I hate using SO, with me being 36 and him 40
boyfriend doesn't seem to fit either. After being together 7 years
I still don't know what titles we should use. This is a tough one
especially since more and more people are choosing to live together
as an alternative to marriage.
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339.31 | I liked ERUM, too! | SQM::AITEL | Helllllllp Mr. Wizard! | Wed Jul 22 1987 16:27 | 9 |
| I've taken to saying, "we have an ABC relationship" and, when they
ask, it stands for "All But Ceremony". I figure, if my sister
can call herself ABD (All But Dissertation on her doctorate),
why not this?
And it usually gets a laugh (from all but the most avid born
again types), and doesn't make me feel uncomfortable.
--Louise
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339.32 | Thank you/merci/gracie/danke | AZUR::GUERRIERI | i whish i was a magician | Mon Aug 03 1987 15:40 | 14 |
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** Thank you ** to all of you for your Significant Answers,
especially to .26 for the part of history.
Anyway, what is important for a term is to be UNDERSTOOD
by the persons you are talking to, and SO seems to be understood
by a majority of people. I will then use it in general situations.
I will still use "lovely dauphin" in private, boy/girlfriend
or husband/wife for those who do not like SO, and the name for those
who know the person.
Rita, (also called "petite colombe" = "little dove" by one of
my SOs).
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339.33 | No nonsense answer to a No nonsense question. | PRANCR::AIKALA | I can tell by your trembling smile | Wed Aug 05 1987 07:34 | 9 |
|
Sexual Obsession
or
Sexual Objective
Sherm_always_thinking_along_those_lines_:^)
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339.34 | :-) | ARMORY::CHARBONND | Post No Bulls | Wed Aug 05 1987 10:39 | 1 |
| She's Simply Ossome
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