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Conference quark::human_relations-v1

Title:What's all this fuss about 'sax and violins'?
Notice:Archived V1 - Current conference is QUARK::HUMAN_RELATIONS
Moderator:ELESYS::JASNIEWSKI
Created:Fri May 09 1986
Last Modified:Wed Jun 26 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1327
Total number of notes:28298

304.0. "Caution: Old boy network on board" by <Deleted> () Fri May 08 1987 09:31

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304.2ERIS::CALLASSo many ratholes, so little timeFri May 08 1987 10:595
    I would tenaciously fight for a good review and then start looking for
    another job. People like that don't deserve to have someone of my
    caliber working for them. 
    
    	Jon
304.3DOCUMENT DOCUMENT DOCUMENTTSG::MCGOVERNSzechuan VanillaFri May 08 1987 17:4524
    As in .1, but go with all the paperwork you can find:  completed
    projects, interim status reports on projects, completed reports
    on projects, original job descriptions.  Anything you can find that
    establishes your performance to be professional, competent, and
    more than adequate.  Try to get them to admit they offered you the
    "cookies."  Discuss with you PSA first, though, and demand
    confidentiality at that stage.  Then, if they still grade you down, 
    insist that they show you the criteria on which they base their low 
    opinion.  If it is an obvious screw job, go back to your PSA and
    mabe get some heat on them from their supervisors.  STAY IN CHANNELS!!! 
    
    Cover your ass, start looking for another job, be ready to
    ride out the storm, stand up for yourself.  
    
    I'd be very careful about the sex descrimination approach:  this
    is an extremely powerful accusation (rightly so, I feel) but
    if you can't prove it, don't use it.  That charge may well put their
    careers on the line and their backs to the wall:  beware a cornered
    tiger.
    
    Good luck.
    
    MM
                                                       
304.4welcome to the world of adultsCEODEV::FAULKNEResqSat May 09 1987 17:012
    wake up and smell the coffee
    
304.5Take it in your stride...SHIRE::SLIDSTERFinally gettin' there...Sun May 10 1987 06:2519
    
    re: .0
    
        How much do you like the job ? 
    
        If the job is not what you thought it was going to be or at
    least is going to carry on this way for the foreseeable future,
    I would immediatly start looking elsewhere. The review is an important
    aspect but if it is that unfair, a discussion with a Senior Manager
    should redress that problem and full explanantion at subsequent
    interviews (provided the explanation is factual and not emotional)
    should see a satisfactory solution. Most Managers understand that
    an incorrect environment will produce results below both expectation
    and ability.
    
    be lucky,
    
    Steve
         
304.6Advice "for the Friend"RTOADA::LANEA Macaw on each ShoulderTue May 12 1987 11:2617
    RE:  < Note 304.0 by ROCKET::SLACK >
        -< Caution: Old boy network on board >-
>
>    This is a scenario I've seen happen to a friend of mine.  
>

    If I were in your position I would advise "A friend of mine" as
    follows:
    
    Leave the company you are working for and join DIGITAL, because
    things like that just don't happen here.
    
                                                         o o
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                                                         \_/
    
                                                        Andy.
304.9Another case of discrimination within DECSSDEVO::YOUNGERI haven&#039;t lost my mind - it&#039;s Backed-up on tape somewhereWed Jul 01 1987 20:1014
    I know of another such csae within DEC.
    
    This woman was training people who are above her in job classification.
    Her supervisors continually gave her "Fails to meet job requirements"
    reviews, in spite of her doing (she claims) everything they tell
    her to do.  She has gotten nothing from personel, and took it to
    top level management.  Still nothing until she went to the state
    board of civil rights.  Then, mysteriously, she got a promotion
    and a salary increase of the level 'double your salary today!'.
    
    Now she is looking for another job where they will treat her fairly.
    
    Elizabeth