Conference quark::human_relations-v1

    Steve,
    
    It is great to see your new personal_name...hang out with us in
    the good times also!
    
    Joyce

    
    
    	My personal name is a good "clue" to my inside track.
    
    						mike

    what..? personal names?  nah...doesn't mean a thing...

    Maybe there is something to that stuff.  My brother always shakes
    his head after talking to me for a while and says "Boy, are you
    'out there'" I know that we don't really live in the same "world",
    and sometimes it irks him,  Me, I am amused by it.
    
    				Rob

    
    Mine is my attitude toward the unknown, and you never quite know
    what you're gonna run into noting...
    
    DFW

    ... implies curiousity and wonder, looking at the world (of noting)
    in a wide-eyed kind of way.  Also implies a certain sassiness. 
    A nickname when I was growing up.

    Mine relates to a fondness for T.S. Eliot

    	Mine is a song...(but I change it sometimes).
    

    Believe it or not, mine reflects the present situation, not a
    mild-mannered evasion. See, I used to work for DEC for 6 1/2 years,
    and then I left to pursue a career as a novelist, only right now
    I'm done with the first one and not really started on the second
    one, so I'm taking advantage of the gap to go earn some $$$ so I
    took a contract job with DEC in my old department (anybody still
    with me?) only my husband already has an account on the cluster
    I work on, and SCHUTZMAN is hard enough to type without making it
    B_SCHUTZMAN or something like that, so I decided to use my maiden
    name, only now everybody asks me if this means we're separated,
    so . . . . 
    
    --bonnie
    

        I guess mine just means I'm ego-centric.
        
        JimB.

    I'm a firm believer in hugs.... and it's a good play on "Saving
    all my love for you" sung by Whitney Houston.

       Mine is for the rights of the forgotten Bears!
    
                             REK
    
    And I don't mean the Chicago Bears! It's to even up the hunting!!

    Mine reflects the moment...I guess I should change it because the
    vacation is becoming more of a memory and reality is here.

    I should listen to my personal name. Wish I knew with certainty where
    it's leading me.
    
    Tamzen 

    Mine means I have just come off of 3 full years of complete misery,
    and only a short while ago (year maybe?), did I realize that the
    only one who could change that is ME.  I now THINK I am a better
    person, I went on a diet, lost some weight, gained some self esteem,
    gained a promotion, and realized that I DID have control over my
    life, and I was the only one making it miserable! Yes, a LOT of
    people were contributing to the fact, but I was letting them.  Now
    nobody does anything to me that I don't agree to first, and I don't
    let them get the upper hand ANYMORE!  A side note was that I changed
    my personal name for a short while, and I received more mail asking
    me to change it back... Kinda made me feel good.
    
    Gale
    
    P.S. Remember that any buckets of guilt that you are carring can
    be put down. They are really a very heavy load to carry.  Once you
    put them down, don't let anyone pick them up and give them to you,
    or don't let anyone notice you don't have any anymore and have them
    try to give you theirs.... A simple "No thank-you, I put my down
    already" will do!!!!!!
    
    P.S.S. Re - 1...  We will NEVER be sure what we do is right.  Take
    your time with the decision - you have a life time to live it out
    - there is no hurry... By the way, I care!
    

    From the movie "Cool Hand Luke". I loved the boxing match -
    reminded me of sparring during my green belt test - I passed
    but that floor !!!!

Just some satire on all of the personal names that noters use.

	Something close to my heart at the moment :-)

    My favorite is "eat dessert first, life is uncertain"
    
    Where did it go?

    
    I believe she's waiting for the caffiene to kick in...
    
    :-)
    
    DFW

    It sounds like an attitude of guarded pessimism, doesn't it?
    
    Actually.  My friends were using the phrase "Don't panic." from
    _The_Hitchhiker's_Guide_to_the_Galaxy_ around me long before I
    found out where it came from, so I did not feel the attachment
    to it that they did.  When I encountered situations where people
    were getting upset, and I needed information from them, I'd
    use it to assure them that they could be calm -- just for a
    little while -- because there would be enough time to panic later.
    
    Sometimes it would even help.
    
    							Ann B.
    
    P.S.  I will have you know that I started reading this notefile
    in May, stopped reading it in July, re-started reading it in March,
    and just got caught up this week.  Whew!

    
    re .25:
    
    Just for you, Joyce!

    
    	Since buying a 100 year old house in need of repair I hang out
    a lot in the Home_work notes file.  My personal name refers to my
    skill as a carpender, as I can never quite get things level.  
    
    				=Ralph=
    
                   
    	It is also a slang term similar in meaning to 'not playing with
    a full deck' or 'lost some of his marbles'.

    Mine's a FORTRAN joke, but it occasionally offends, so I don't use
    it often.
    
                 Carol

Mine comes from the song by the Mama's and the Papa's.  True, I like the song
alot but more because it reminds me of a vacation I took two years ago out
in LA and San Diego.  I really loved it out there.  I love warm weather, vol-
leyball, and people watching, and all three of those are very popular out
there!

As an aside about the people watching, I was amazed at the broad range of
people found out there.  One of my favorite quotes -- which I can't for the
life of me remember where I heard it -- goes:  "Living in California is like
living in a bowl of granola -- what ain't fruits or nuts is flakes."!!!   ;-)


Brian

    re: .32
    
    Believe him. His process name is VikingofSpiking.
    
    --bonnie
    

    Re: .0
    
    Steve, I will be so delighted when I see the personal_name change
    to "I'm there! And it's GREAT!" As we experience life, it will
    occassionally give us a test or two just to see the mettal we're
    made of. It sounds as though you are making the most of a Life
    Experience and learning as you go along. Thanks for sharing.
    
    My personal_name? It expresses very well what ever I try to share.
    "One small voice"
                                      -sunny-

    Being the true cat lover that I am, it reminds me of the quiet, 
    serene, life of my cat.  Home sleeping at that.
    
    Jude
    

    RE: Personal_names.  
    
    Would someone tell me how to set mine?
    
    Thanks.
    /Lb

    Notes> SET PROFILE/PERS="whatever"
    
    - M

    STEVE
    WHAT WAS YOUR NODE AND PERSONNAL NAME BEFORE. YOU SOUND FAMILIAR.

    
    	Wow!  Another interesting conference to follow!  I was just
    	getting into SEXCETERA (r.i.p.) and notes itself when that
    	conference got yanked.  I wondered where all those people 
    	went to...  Actually I recognized many of them scattered throughout
    	the noting universe.
    
    	I try to have my personal name reflect one of my philosophies.
    	Anyone can get my name and DTN from ELF.
    
    	I'll be catching up soon.  (I'm up to this note now...)
    
    
    	Joe Oppelt

    re: .35
    
    		As requested.
    
    Steve

When the going gets tough...

    the tough get gone Zooooommm===---->

    When the going gets weird...
    ...the weird turn pro.
    
    			Th thh thhha thhhhatts all ffffolks
    
    
    						Captain Fejj

    my current personal name is taken from the old "Lad" books (akin
    to Lassie...)  When the dog was facing the worst of trouble - sorely
    injured, scraping on its belly towards the only light in the forest,
    striving to survive, after facing harrowing fights and awful weather
    an abandonment and confusion and hunger and any other number of
    catastrophes - suddenly the collie would find a burst of energy,
    attain the cabin where safety and food and healing and a warm human
    awaited....hence (abbreviated to fit in the field, of course)
    
    But a collie down is not a collie beaten.....
    
It kinda reflects how I feel lately...
    
        -Jody

    
    
    I was wondering about that, Jody!  I've read many of his collie
    books (Terhune was the author?), and recognized the quote...so,
    do you actually OWN a collie?
    
    I usually don't use a p_name, but in the spirit of the season,
    I set one for mail:
    
    "Just send the 5 gold rings and cancel the rest of my true love's
     order."
    
                   Deb  ;-)
    
    

    
    I haven't had much to do for the past few months, and my
    personal name speaks for itself!!!
    
    
    Bored in Burlington
    Dan
    

    about the collie - I'm allergic but I think they're great.  Very
    stalwart with a lot of stick-to-it-iveness.  Something I envy. 
    The personal name choice was between that and:
    
    Recoco cola - it's surreal thing.
    
    whoever wants to use the above personal_name suggestion is welcome to
    it, as I think the collie bit describes what I'm hoping to achieve in 
    the near future:  perseverence.
    
    -Jody
    
    

    I don't usually use personal names, because I get bored with them
    too quickly - or I forget they're there, and get embarrassed when
    seeing them on an official mail message or note!
    
    However, for the last month or two I've been cycling through a bunch
    of them, mostly lines from Springsteen songs, but one or two that
    were quotes from or references to my favorite TV show. (For that
    matter, the Springsteen all related to it, too...)
    
    It was often a real problem to come up with a meaningful phrase that
    fit within the VAXnotes header, and eventually I ran out, so I've given
    p-names up for the moment. The most terse was "Life ain't a hatshop,"
    which came from WISEGUY; it meant that it isn't always useful to think
    of people in terms of "the good guys wear white hats and the bad guys
    wear black hats." 
    
    -b (who doesn't wear hats at all)

    Over the past year mine has changed form:
    
    "Go For It" to
    "What If We.....?" to
    "Days of Miracle and Wonder" to the present one.
    
    Guess they sort of have a theam of change, wonder, searching and
    growth.  My present Personal_Name came from a button I saw in a
    party store.  It reflects my present philosophy - the real meaning
    of life.  What a bunch of BS.  Sorry you asked?  What the H, Go
    For It!

    
    I had intended on replying to this "Personal Names" note,  but
    I guess I didn't get around to it for a while...
    
    8^)

    Little boy in a sandlot with a bat and ball. Tells himself "I'm
    the worlds greatest baseball player." Tosses the ball up, swings,
    and misses. Again, he tells himself "I'm the worlds greatest baseball
    player". Tosses the ball up, swings and misses. Undaunted, he picks
    the ball up again, says "I'm the greatest baseball player in the
    whole world", tosses the ball up, and misses again. He looks at
    the ball on the ground, and in an awed voice says "What a pitcher!"

    Re .53
    
    Great story.  I love it! Thanks for ending the year on an up note.
    
    Cheers, Marty

    
    I origionaly posted a piece of this in the Mennotes file in 
    response to 313.0 but i believe it broader after looking at it.
    I'll leave the ownere to copy theirs here should they want to.
    
    I'll open a related question,  If you wanted to change your name
    be it first last or in between.  What name would you pick?
        
        Names are a funny object. 
        They carry different weights. 
        They mean different things to differing people. 
        They are assigned! 
        They bring different images with them.  
        They link the past, and add a hook to the future.
        They are what we become or become different because.
        They associate sex with gender.
        They conflict with each other!
        
        John Parent
            ( NO I'm not the father of the toilet over there &>).)
            

    I'm too lazy to think one up, but give me 24 hours...

    
    re: .56
    
    You are almost running out of time.
    
    

    Reply to .57,
    
    Someone has to ask first...

    Reply to .59, Mike,
    
    Give that man a banana... B^)

    
>>    Give that man a banana... B^)

	 and just what is he supposed to do with it?  8^)

    sometimes i just feel that way.  8*)
    
    tony

    Just how DOES this damn new version of ALL-IN-ONE work anyhow...
    
    Chip_who_stole_this_P_name_from_another_noter

    
    
    	"Rain Dance tomorrow (weather permitting)"
    
    

    Anyone can make it to the front side... ;-)

    Seize the day!
    
    Martha
    
    P.S.  See "Dead Poets Society," it's wonderful!

    re: .66
    
    	Agreed!  I still start crying every time I think of the ending.
    
    							 Carla
    

    I keep coming back to the same personal_name....Oh, sure, I wander
    off now and then.  But it keeps coming back.  It always seems so
    apt, and it makes me take heart in so many ways.
    
    Invictus Maneo - I remain unvanquished
    
    -Jody
    

    Dead Poet's Society - wonderful movie...
    
    My current mail personal name is "Bell out of order. Please knock."
    One of my favorite lines from the Wizard of Oz. Don't really know why.
    
    -Amy. (Hi Jody!)

    My current one is self-explanatory.
    
    					andrew

    re: .71 Andrew,
    
    Not to those of us not familiar with Elf Classic.
    
    Tony

    Oops --
    
    It's like this --
    
    ELF Classic is to VTX ELF as Coke Classic is to New Coke.
    
    					andrew

    But Andrew, I thought ELF Classic is to VTX Elf as Coke Classic is to
    flat, warm, watery New Coke.
    
    	Jon

    ELF classic is to VTX Elf as Coke Classic is to flat, warm, watery,
    New Coke with an impossible screw top and a neck so thin you can't
    get anything out of it.
    
    (sorry! I got a bit carried away there! ;)
    
    -Jody
    

re 1.    Jody, that's okay....it is annoying.  They have all my imformation
         wrong and you can not get in to change it.  I wrote to them weeks 
         ago and nothing has been done.....

         YES, back to ELF Classic.

Mikki
    

 Actually, ELF classic is to VTX ELF as swamp water is to DDT. Neither is
actually GOOD, but one is clearly worse.

 The Doctah

Thanks for the comments on ELF.  If you have any others (and boy do I have
a lot of my own!), the IAMOK::ELF conference is the place to go.  I'd ask
that no more comments on ELF be entered here.

Now back to the topic already in progress.

				Steve

    My personal name in notes comes from Tracy Chapman... Its the last song
    on her new album.. when I first heard the song, I didn't like it...
    but, as it played more and more...  it really is true, no matter what
    happens to you in life - never sell your soul to anyone... cuz that's
    really all that you have that is really yours...

    My mail personal name comes from Miracle on 34th Street...

    FAITH, is believing in things when Common Sense tells you not to...

    They were talking about Santa Claus, but I thought it really was a lot
    more than just Santa Claus... as Christmas comes and has becomes so
    commercialized, we sometimes forget that what we are celebrating is the
    birth of Jesus Christ. That takes a lot of faith to believe - even when
    people say no, that common sense says not too...

    My new personal name is because I don't want to clean my apartment.
     But I should.  And I will.  Really.
    
    -Jody
    

    	My notes personal name is from a new Rush song called "War Paint",
    which talks about how so many people see "what we want to see".  The
    term "War Paint", of course, is directed at make-up, but I think it
    refers as well to clothes and all the other surface things we put on to
    make us "different".  *But*:


    	"to the beautiful and the wise
    	 the mirror always lies"


    	Mail personal name "All of us get lost in the darkness Dreamers
    learn to steer by the stars" is from a song by the same group, same CD,
    called "The Pass".  It talks about suicide (I find it interesting how
    many times something in real life reminds me of a note which has just
    been started up in here!).  The quote above is intended to remind
    people who consider suicide that the things they're feeling are common
    to us all.  It's a very powerful song.



    Brian

    Well, my personal name comes from my detest of a certain christmas
    carol. (-:
    
    Holly (Who's trying to catch up after being away from this file for TOO
    long!!!)
    

    My current notes personal name comes from me feeling rather devilish
    lately... putting dents in my halo and all that.. :-)

    
    Just got into this the other day, and I'm trying to get a look at what
    is in here. But it's awfully slow sometimes when you have to set host
    to WMOIS.
    
    My Personal name can be taken any way you would like to...
    
    ....Bob

    A new p-name that reflects my known passion for a certain kind of
    candy!!
    
    YUMMM!!!
    
    Holly
    

    Aw, I dunno Holly, I could think of a few *interesting alternatives*...
    ;).
    
    -Jody
    

    Self explanitory....
    in a nutshell....
    life pulls liquid through a straw......
    
    :-(

    Since moving to MA this summer, I've learned what LIBERAL *really* is!
    
    tony

    just waltzing through a little confusion here....
    
    -Jody
    

        The above is a GREAT song from a GREAT band...
    
        One day they'll make a Peter Parker/SpiderMan movie
        and Robert will make the soundtrack starting with
        this song!
    

    I saw it on a bumper sticker and its seemed SO true that I couldn't
    resist. Plus it was different from the same old "so many men, so little
    time" slogan.
    
    Deb
    

    <This seems more appropriate here than in FRIENDS, although DIGITAL
    would be the ideal place for it...  Ray>
    
    As far as Quiss could make out in the grey gloom, from the vats large
    overhead buckets scooped up grey, viscous fluid, which was poured into
    moulds on conveyor belts which disappeared into long, hissing machines;
    at the far end of the machines the moulds were stripped off the grey
    sculptures which were then minion-handled or trolleyed to another
    conveyor belt which led into the pounding machine in the centre of the
    room...
    
    "What in hell's name is this?" Quiss said incredulously, choking on the
    dust.
    
    "This is dee pee," the attendant said primly.  "This is the nerve
    centre of the entire castle.  Without us, the whole place would simply
    grind to a halt."  It sounded proud.
    
    "Are you _sure_?" Quiss said, coughing.  The minion stiffened.
    
    "Have you any other questions?" it said coldly.  Quiss was looking at
    the sculptures. They were funny shapes: 5, 9, 2, 3, 4...
    
    "Yes", he said, "what are those meant to be?"
    
    "This is the number-crunching room.  Those are numbers," it said,
    enunciating clearly as though for some small and wilfully obtuse child,
    "and this is where we _crunch_ them.  That machine is a
    _number-cruncher_."
    
    "What do you make the numbers out of?  What's that grey stuff?"
    
    "Plaster of Salt Lake City."  Quiss frowned.
    
    "What the hell's that?"
    
    "It's like Plaster of Paris, except duller," the minion said, then
    turned and stamped off through the drifts of grey powder.
    
    
    	- edited from "Walking on Glass" by Iain Banks

Re. 0    
    >Does your Personal_name reflect your mood/personality ? 
    
    So many topics, so little time to do them all justice.
    
    Personal Names ... jeeeez this topic sounds familiar ...
    
    No magic in my 'Personal Name'. Just a simple statement about 
    my true  vaocation.  Work is just a hobby until a better solution to
    the 'Survival Issue'  can  be found.  (Survival in relative comfort,
    that is.)
    
    Bob
    
    

 translation: 'Niners in a rout.

 The Doctah

    Just Another Private Pilot - badge of pride!
    
    JIm
    

    He does.  I heard him paged last Saturday.   :)
    
    ---kim

re: .98

No way, Kim.  He works at (appropriately enough) King Soopers here in
Colorado Springs, or at least he thinks he does.  You should see this
guy -- enormous sideburns, an Elvis pompadour, blinding belt buckles,
and the last time I was there he said in an Elvis drawl, "Seventeen
cents is your change, ma'am."

Maybe it's Elvis Costello who's moonlighting at BJ's?!

Carla

	:-)

	Dan

    
    Dan,
    
    I thought one of your New Year's Resolutions was to stop taking
    the .100 replies!!!   :-)
         
         
    Krash
         
         

        I didn't post any New Year's Resolutions, and I kept the
        one that I mailed, so you must be thinking about someone
        else.  :-)
        
        Dan

   back to the topic...
    
    I borrowed mine from Neil Young, who's always been a favorie of
    mine.

Hello,

	My 'personal' is very important to me, it represents my
whole approach to life.

	Poohbear has it right for me, if you don't agree try reading
the Pooh stories once (more) and see (well at least try)

	Basically he is very simple, he values love and friendship
(is there any difference, really). He has basic values that are
easy to forget in the pressures of 1990...

Pooh:   Rabbit's clever
Piglet: Yes Rabbit IS clever.
Pooh:   ...and he has Brain.
Piglet: Yes, Rabbit DOES have Brain.

[Long Silence]

Pooh:   I suppose...that that is why he never understands anything!

Don't get me wrong, I think being clever is valuable, but Pooh has a
point (for me at least).

Best ...Trevor

    .re -.1

    I recently read a book entitled "The Tao of Pooh" which I 
    bet you would enjoy. The story uses Winnie the Pooh to 
    exemplfy philospohical ideals and principles. 

    I found the book to be both entertaining and substantial.

    Highly recommended...


    Bob

    I've picked meaningful pn's, ones that reflected how I've felt etc...
    
    Lately, it's been: "Loos? In Hell? It IS damnation WITHOUT relief!"
    from a recording I heard of Rowan Atkinson playing the Devil.
    
    My latest almost rhymed and sounded wierd... "Loos, booze and Bad
    News".
    
    Pete.

    Ever watch the Simpson's?  It's on Sunday nights at 8:30, Channel 25.
    
    -Michelle-
    
    
    
    

    Ever watch it???  It's one of the best shows on TV!
    
    -dwight

    .108
    
    Yep.  I started watching it when someone here at work told me about
    it.  Now a few of them call me Marge...  
    
    -Michelle-

    
    	Mine is from and interesting Saturday evening.  A friend in 
    	a band changed their named just for a second....  =)
    
    
    	

Mine represents a count down to the end of my 2.5 year tour on the graveyard
shift a moment I have awaited for 2.5 years 8^)

-j

    Because I happen to think that *S*ensitive *N*ew *A*ge *G*uys are
    cool....

Mine - its a comment for people who complain...

    re: .86
    
    New temp assignment, new node, same p/n, can be taken as you see fit
    
    8-)
    
    ....Bob

    I'm getting fond enough of this one that I might as well explain it:
    
    From the most beautiful of all films noirs, "Out of the Past", directed
    by Jacque Tourneur, starring Robert Mitchum, Jane Greer and Kirk
    Douglas; the scene is a casino, Greer is throwing cash down the
    roulette whirlpool...
    
    Mitchum: "You won't win like that."
    Greer:   "You can't win."
    Mitchum: "You can lose slower."
    
    Ray

    And the movie "Out of the Past" evolved into "Against All Odds",
    which did have a great theme song.
    
      Alan

�    And the movie "Out of the Past" evolved into "Against All Odds",
    
    I'm not sure "evolved" is the right verb here... (: >,)
    
    Ray in film-buff-mode

    Mine comes from a prayer from The Book of The Dead, an Egyptian work
    written around 3500 BC.  The quote pertains to the priests of Ra, the
    Sun God.
    
    -Jody
    

    In repsonse to being asked "Why can't we drive?"
    
    Geezzz.. some people really know how to almost spoil a surprise
    party...
    
    :-)

>    Geezzz.. some people really know how to almost spoil a surprise
>    party...
    
    	No, some people just don't know how to cover very well! :^)
    (And I believe your response was "Um...I forget!")

    	amy

    ah, so indeed it was...
    
    see new personal name :-)

    VANDERMAST:  "What art thou that questions thus?"
    
    BACON:  "Men call me Bacon."
    
      - "Friar Bacon and Friar Bungay" by Robert Greene, 1590

    
    * When Ghoulish Opinions/Deeds Return (from yo'r past) To Haunt *
    
                 Or
    
    * When yesterday's ghoulish opinions/deeds return to visit "tomorrow" *
               

    In my beginning is my end.

    In my reply is my personal name.

   
       Will my personal be displayed?  It doesn't in some conferences.
    "If you're not committed, perhaps you should be."  So far, there
    is one person who found it to be offensive.  That person doesn't
    get mail from me anymore.    
    

>>       Will my personal be displayed?  It doesn't in some conferences.

	It wasn't displayed in .-1.  To set it, go into notes
	and give the command

		Notes> set profile/pers="If you're not ..."

	To show it,

		Notes> show profile

	Dan

    from "Great Balls Of Fire"

    
    from the song "Who Killed Mr. Moonlight?",
    by Bauhaus.