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Conference quark::human_relations-v1

Title:What's all this fuss about 'sax and violins'?
Notice:Archived V1 - Current conference is QUARK::HUMAN_RELATIONS
Moderator:ELESYS::JASNIEWSKI
Created:Fri May 09 1986
Last Modified:Wed Jun 26 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1327
Total number of notes:28298

209.0. "Conversational Styles" by <Deleted> () Thu Feb 12 1987 10:38

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209.1BEES::PAREThu Feb 12 1987 12:311
    Who knows?  The listeners never tell us :-)
209.2speaking from experienceKLAATU::THIBAULTSwimmers Do It WetterThu Feb 12 1987 14:114
    Listeners get dumped on with alarming frequency, and hearing types
    aren't worth the time it takes to listen to them.
    
    Bahama Mama
209.3APEHUB::STHILAIREThu Feb 12 1987 15:114
    Aren't most people a little of both?
    
    Lorna
    
209.4not additional problemsCEODEV::FAULKNERmy sharonaThu Feb 12 1987 16:299
    re.3 absolutely not Lorna
    
    I have noticed that many people you can sit and poor your heart
    out too about a romantic (or other) problem and as soon as you stop
    for air they immediately segway into their own problems.
    Those are the hearing types.
    The listening types are the ones that when you finish pouring ....
    they offer solutions.
    
209.7It's not just one or the otherSTUBBI::B_REINKEDown with bench BiologyThu Feb 12 1987 22:144
    re .6
    It seems many people can be anyone of the three at different times
    and with different people. A lot depends on who a person is with
    and what their own problems are at the time. 
209.8active listening...JETSAM::HANAUERMike...Bicycle~to~Ice~CreamFri Feb 13 1987 11:3310
also Re: .6 (Bob)

Find that the hardest part of "active listening" is to be not
thinking about my next point/retort while the other person is
talking.  That prevents one from hearing all that is said (and may
even cause the person to interrupt with the retort).

Would add this to the definition.

	~Mike
209.9What is the point of the conversation?YAZOO::B_REINKEDown with bench BiologyFri Feb 13 1987 22:435
    Is it always necessary to be an "active listener"? If you
    are learning about a new freind, or listening to a person's
    problems, etc. it is very important to listen carefully. But
    debate style conversation is a lot of fun.
    
209.10QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centSat Feb 14 1987 09:3412
    Active listening is just one tool you can use when relating to
    other people.  I found the concept a great help to me, because I
    tend to not pay attention to what others say.  Active listening
    makes sure I understood what was said.  But one has to make sure
    that you don't just turn into an echo of the other person!
    
    I first learned about active listening when I read Parent Effectiveness
    Training (P.E.T.) while taking a "Positive Power and Influence"
    course.  The book is useful for learning how to relate better to
    all kinds of people, not just children.  I highly recommend it.
    
    					Steve
209.11You have to really careCADSYS::BURDICKEd Burdick HLO2-2/G13, dtn 225-5051Sun Feb 15 1987 22:108
I don't know about any formal definitions, but I am known as a person who 
listens and helps.  I think the secret is to care.  You don't start caring
about other people by reading about a theory or technique.  If I care about a 
person, I will listen, reflect, and get involved.  If I don't care, I will
politely send them away.  People who don't care will never make good 
listeners until they learn to really put self interest aside.  I remember
times when I was younger that I waited for the other person to stop talking 
so that I could say my piece.  If you want to, you grow out of it.../e
209.13Of course, you are rightCADSYS::BURDICKEd Burdick HLO2-2/G13, dtn 225-5051Wed Feb 18 1987 19:176
re:.12            Having 'tools' tends to help more.

I agree.  It takes caring and skill.  I have known several people who went out
and acquired some of the tools and then abused them heavily because they were
too narcissistic to understand what they were for.
209.14NCHANI::PETRAUSCHKEWed Mar 25 1987 13:094
    
    
    
    
209.15ConversationACE::MOOREMon Jan 13 1992 14:576
    
    We have two ears and one mouth that we may listen the more and talk the
    less.
    
    
                             Ray
209.16RIPPLE::KENNEDY_KAStrong and DeterminedTue Jan 14 1992 13:239
    Ray,
    
    A variation of your statement;
    
       Take the cotton out of your ears and put it in your mouth.  
    
    Crude, but it works for me.
    
    Karen
209.17MR4DEC::RONTue Jan 14 1992 22:2911
Re: .15 by ACE::MOORE,

>    We have two ears and one mouth that we may listen the more and talk the
>    less.

I thought it goes, "We have two ears and one mouth which is why
some people feel obliged to speak twice as much as they listen".

-- Ron

209.18MILKWY::ZARLENGAfunny, she doesn't look DruishWed Jan 15 1992 19:144
    This hung in my bedroom until I was about 14 ...

    The reason a dog has so many friends is he wags his tail instead
    of his tongue.