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Conference quark::human_relations-v1

Title:What's all this fuss about 'sax and violins'?
Notice:Archived V1 - Current conference is QUARK::HUMAN_RELATIONS
Moderator:ELESYS::JASNIEWSKI
Created:Fri May 09 1986
Last Modified:Wed Jun 26 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1327
Total number of notes:28298

199.0. "Human frailty and Chain letters !" by TONTO::EARLY (Bob_the_hiker) Tue Feb 03 1987 08:25

    Human frailty, being what it is, seems to need some reminders 
    now and then. I sent this response to some "potential" friends,
    and solicit the help of others to do the same.
    
Subj:	Chain Letters are expressly forbidden by DEC Policy !

Bon Jour, Guten Tag, Gutt Morgen, and Hello;

This is the last chain letter I get. I find them personally offensive,
and these are the sort of thing that will cause Papa DEC to shutdown the network
to "personal mail" and "noting".

They are expressly FORBIDDEN by the new DEC policy which took effect in 1986,
and I would "hope" that anyne who is friend of mine (or of my freinds)
will help to "self police" the network and stop these abusive practices.

Bob
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199.1aaarrrrggghhh!SEDJAR::THIBAULTSwimmers Do It WetterTue Feb 03 1987 13:105
    You got one of those, too huh? I personally hate any mail that has
    more than one page of headers on it. I usually delete them before
    I even get to the message.
    
    Bahama Mama
199.2Chain letters should be abolishedQUARK::LIONELThree rights make a leftTue Feb 03 1987 17:033
    I deleted a chain letter that was posted here.  Please don't post
    chain letters to ANY conference.  Thanks.
    					Steve
199.4Return to senderQUARK::LIONELThree rights make a leftTue Feb 03 1987 18:3216
    Re: .3
    
    Why do you think it's necessary to show chain letters to
    everyone?  What I do when I get one is to send it back to the
    person who sent it to me (and maybe, if I'm feeling punchy,
    everyone backwards in the chain who sent it), along with a note
    quoting the explicit DEC policy that forbids chain letters and
    a further request that they not send any to me again.  If enough
    people did this, especially returning the letter to all those
    backwards on the chain, I bet chain letters would stop quickly.
    
    There is no "Network Knowledge" in chain letters - just trash.
    
    There's a discussion of chain letters in HUMAN::DIGITAL as of today.
    
    					Steve
199.6SERIOUS POLICIES SHOULD BE BETTER CIRCULATEDVAXWRK::RACELTue Feb 03 1987 21:4626
    I don't much care for Chain Letters either.  Way back in the days
    when letters came on paper, I used to just throw them away.  However,
    one came floating through my office via 'MAIL' and a few people
    received them and either forwarded or deleted them.  Sure, they
    can be a drag, but so can any other mail message that someone sends
    to me that I have to read through about 10 pages of forwarding
    addresses to finally get to the message.
    
    Well, most of my group (about 3/4) has been with the company for
    less than a year.  I'm not going to argue as to whether forwarding
    the chain letter is right or wrong.  However, about 24 hours after
    they went around, someone told us that it was againt a DEC policy
    to do this, and that anyone whose name was on one was apt to be
    fired.  
    
    Talk about scared, young kids (yup - most of these guys are 25 yrs
    old or less).  So... it's wrong... but are they really going to 
    fire someone for it?  I have a hard time believing that these
    naive people who put in a good 40 or more hours a week, don't abuse
    their privleges, and probably average less than an hour per week
    using NOTES deserve to be fired just because they forwarded a message
    and didn't know about a policy.
    
    Where is that policy written anyway?  How many of these do I have
    to read to make sure I don't do something innocent that is going
    to get me fired?
199.7New policyQUARK::LIONELThree rights make a leftTue Feb 03 1987 22:3320
    This new policy has circulated quite widely within the noting
    community.  I have posted a copy in note 1.10 for permanent reference.
    
    However, I will point out that the policy does not say that
    employees will be fired for writing chain letters; rather it says
    that misuse of DEC's systems can be cause for corrective action
    at your manager's discretion.
    
    The particular text that starts "Examples of misuse could be..."
    should not (we hope) be interpreted as "if you do any of these
    things you're automatically guilty of misuse".  Rather, they
    are suggestions of what you should be careful of.  In particular,
    the text about "communicating matters of private conviction or
    philosophy" is subject to wide interpretation.
    
    I think I'd like to direct discussion of this policy to the
    HUMAN::DIGITAL conference.  (Press KP7 or SELECT to add it to
    your notebook.)  Note 111 should make good reading.
    
    					Steve
199.9Thanks SteveVAXWRK::RACELWed Feb 04 1987 18:547
    Steve,
    
    Thanks for posting that policy.  In my 25 months at DEC, I either
    have never seen it, or have seen it and specifics never sunk in
    before.
    
    Peggy
199.10QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centWed Feb 04 1987 20:158
    The policy was JUST approved within the past month, though there
    were similar policies in the past.  Indeed, these don't get widespread
    attention, but this one sure has, mainly because some interpret
    it as requiring the closing of most employee interest conferences
    (including this one).  Luckily, "those in charge" don't appear to
    see it that way (there is a good communications channel between
    the IDECUS NOTES DIG and Personnel).
    					Steve