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247.1 | Only Environment functions are forwardable | ALFSS2::OLSEN_G | Real Men Go Wireless! | Mon Apr 14 1997 10:38 | 37 |
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Let me give this one a try - Chet can bail me out if I lead you astray
too far ;-). I had an interesting discussion with Bernie a week or so
ago to explain the issue of what ServerWORKS traps can be forwarded and
which ones can't. Here is my understanding...
Seems that the SNMP agent that runs on
the "client" is responsible for certain extensibility so that functions
like the ServerWORKS features, beyond SNMP, can be recognized. While
the NT and Netware SNMP agents are extensible, they aren't flexible
enough for ServerWORKS agents to pass information thru them to get to
the Enterprise Managers like OpenView, etc. SCO does provide the
interface to do this. Digital Unix doesn't (yet?). In fact Bernie said
they tricked the NT SNMP agent into doing things that it normally
shouldn't do (ie polling). Had something to do with MIBII compliancy,
but I'm not sure now what that issue was.
BOTTOM LINE:
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So it all boils down to this: The traps that can be set under
"Environment" button on the ServerWORKS window (double click a
ServerWORKS object) can be forwarded to Enterprise Managers. You must
also compile at least the two ServerWORKS MIBs - svrmgr.mib and
svrsys.mib - in the Enterprise Manager.
One exception to all this is PolyCenter NetView- you can plug
ServerWORKS right into it and it sees all the traps just like you'd see
in ManageWORKS.
Hope this helps.
Gary Olsen
Atlanta CSC
(How'd I do, Chet?)
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247.2 | Look where it's posted. | PCBUOA::WHITEC | Parrot_Trooper | Mon Apr 14 1997 11:39 | 12 |
| There's information available from the external web site at
www.windows.digital.com
click on products, and go down to the ServerWORKS section.
And an internal site at akin40.ako.dec.com
Click on Digital ServerWORKS..... In there you will find product
information and literature as well as kits.
Chet White
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247.3 | A little more clearification on the last note. | PCBUOA::WHITEC | Parrot_Trooper | Mon Apr 14 1997 11:48 | 14 |
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regarding my last note, I want to ensure that everyone has the correct
pointers to get information like this. We in the support role, are
constantly trying to find the best way to pass information along, and
the web is the vehicle of choice. Understand, though, that a certain
amount of 'self - suffeciency' is required. The documents are there
to read up on and get familiar with.
re: Gary, you done well!!!!! AS far as I can tell.
I will ensure that the documents for propagating a trap, and integrate
an external application are available through the web.
chet
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247.4 | I think I understand this! (frightening!) | ALFSS2::OLSEN_G | Real Men Go Wireless! | Tue Apr 15 1997 12:23 | 11 |
| Chet,
>I will ensure that the documents for propagating a trap, and integrate
>an external application are available through the web.
Will you put them on the External as well as the internal?
Thanks,
Gary
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247.5 | Maybe, | PCBUOA::WHITEC | Parrot_Trooper | Tue Apr 15 1997 14:58 | 6 |
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as soon as engineering 'blesses' em as 'released' they can go out to
the external web.
chet
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247.6 | Any other comments on it? | PCBUOA::WHITEC | Parrot_Trooper | Tue Apr 15 1997 15:00 | 6 |
| Please review the two, and send comments back to me. The integration
document will become chapter 5 of the manual.....
The other one, can be posted, once it's reviewed and finalized.
chet
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247.7 | Suggestions | ALFSS2::OLSEN_G | Real Men Go Wireless! | Wed Apr 16 1997 13:15 | 31 |
| Chet,
Review the current chapter 5 "integration" document. After our
discussion with Bernie, it seems there are a lot of misleading "sales"
type statements.
Note: next to last paragraph, page 2:
"...Digital servers are fully manageable via Enterprise SNMP
console manager application". This is true as far as SNMP is
concerned, but not true as far as ServerWORKS extensions. That should
be made clear
Note: 1st paragraph, page 3:
"Most enterprise SNMP Manager (sic) allow the user to compile a new
MIB. After compiling a MIB, the same information that displays in tahe
ServerWORKS bdrowser can be displayed using another Enterprise manager
browser."
ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE. Should be changed to say that the same info can
be displayed for a SCO Unix box with the SW agent, but for NW, NT and
Digital Unix clients, only SNMP Environment information is available.
Then explain the agent issue if you want.
Should note that the way this works is after the MIB is compiled, you
see four alarm thresholds on the console mgr - high, medium, low and
informational. They pick up alarms set via ServerWORKS - according to
the rules and exceptions noted above (environment only except SCO - but
who uses SCO anymore?)
I'll help if you'd like.
Gary
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