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Conference pamsrc::decmessageq

Title:NAS Message Queuing Bus
Notice:KITS/DOC, see 4.*; Entering QARs, see 9.1; Register in 10
Moderator:PAMSRC::MARCUSEN
Created:Wed Feb 27 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2898
Total number of notes:12363

2881.0. "Fail over - Dual rail Ethernet" by TKOV60::MORIG () Fri May 16 1997 08:52

I want to know whether I can create fail safe network configuration using
DECmessageQ over TCP/IP.

Can DMQ switch from a line-a to a line-b without any operation, when 
a line-a goes down ?

Can DMQ use both lines simultaneously ?

Can DMQ swith TCP/IP to DECnet ?

+---------------------+			+---------------------+
|    OpenVMS 6.2      |                 |     OpenVMS 6.2     |
|       UCX  4.0      |                 |        UCX  4.0     |
|       DMQ  3.2      |                 |        DMQ  3.2     |
|                     |                 |                     |
|    1a         1b    |                 |   2b          2a    |
| +------+   +------+ |                 | +-----+    +------+ |
| |ether |   |ether | |                 | |ether|    |ether | |
+-+------+---+------+-+                 +-+-----+----+------+-+
     |          |            line b           |          |
     |      []====================================[]     |
     |                       line a                      |
[]================================================================[]



DMQ$INIT.TXT

	GroupID	 System	      .....	Transport    Addr
	-------  -------		---------   ------
	  1	   1a			   TCPIP     xxx1
	  1	   1b			   TCPIP     xxx1
	  2	   2a			   TCPIP     xxx1
	  2	   2b			   TCPIP     xxx1
		

Regards,
Yukio Moriguchi
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2881.1PAMSIC::STEPHENSFri May 16 1997 13:2526
Hello,

>Can DMQ switch from a line-a to a line-b without any operation, when 
>a line-a goes down ?

No, the product does not support dual-homed IP configurations such
as you described in .0

>Can DMQ use both lines simultaneously ?

No, except, if these systems are on the same LAN, and if your
application is so inclined, then you can use the SBS server which
is setup to broadcast on dual rail configurations (using direct
multicasting, not TCP/IP)

>Can DMQ swith TCP/IP to DECnet ?

Yes, the transport control can switch between link drivers 
(DECnet and TCP/IP), however this would be a major managment
headache, if you were suggesting to run DECnet over one rail
and IP on the other.    

Hope this helps,
Bruce

Bruce
2881.2This may help...KLOVIA::MICHELSENBEA/DEC MessageQ EngineeringSun May 18 1997 23:3514
    re: .0
    
>Can DMQ switch from a line-a to a line-b without any operation, when 
>a line-a goes down ?

>Can DMQ use both lines simultaneously ?

>Can DMQ swith TCP/IP to DECnet ?
    
    BTW, DECnet supports dual-rail ethernet transparently, all you have to
    do is make sure it's enabled.
    
    
    Marty
2881.3Really?TKOV60::MORIGMon May 19 1997 09:0013
BEA/DEC messageQ on Digital UNIX can swith the dual rails Ethernet.

DECnet-Plus can use dual rails transparently and with fail-safe. 

Only on OpenVMS with UCX CAN't handle it?

If we use DECnet-Plus on TCP/IP, though it is the UCX, can we use dual rails
on TCP/IP with the messageQ?

We need dual rails support on TCP/IP, DMQ with MRS.

Regards,
Yukio
2881.4KLOVIA::MICHELSENBEA/DEC MessageQ EngineeringFri May 23 1997 15:016
re: .3

I am not familar with those capabilities of DECnet-Plus.


Marty