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Conference pamsrc::decmessageq

Title:	NAS Message Queuing Bus
Notice:	KITS/DOC, see 4.*; Entering QARs, see 9.1; Register in 10
Moderator:	PAMSRC::MARCUSEN

Created:	Wed Feb 27 1991
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	2898
Total number of notes:	12363

2809.0. "BEA or Digital" by OZROCK::PERKINS (Some contractors, their sex-life destroyed and overwhelmed by project pressures, turn to snorting quack.) Tue Mar 11 1997 18:55

Just curious about the current status is DMQ now BEA's
property?? If not when will it happen?? Will BEA still be
allowed access to our internal network??  Will we be 
allowed access to the BEA internal network?? What does "Digital
Confidential" mean in this situation???

When is someone/anyone going to explain to us how we are
suppose to deal with BEA and this situation... warm and
fuzzy announcements don't help us (the field) understand
the parameters of the "partnership"... are we suppose to
get information from BEA on product information ... what do
we do with product requirements how are they tracked... how is
the decision made about requirements becoming product .. who is
doing this... how do we get bugs fixed ... what is the escalation
process ... who looks after this ... how is it tracked and resolved
if unsatisfactory ... how do we get kits ... can we get all kits
or only digital ... what new products ... enhancements ... patch kits

Is this conference a BEA conference or Digital Internal??
If it is BEA where is the Digital conference and what
policy will control access to it??
If it is Digital Internal then who is the moderator and what
policy will control access to it??
Thanks Kevin (suffering from a void since the initial announcement
but now wondering how i'm suppose to deal with calls from BEA CEOs and
CTOs?????)

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
2809.1		XHOST::SJZ	Kick Butt In Your Face Messaging !	`Tue Mar 11 1997 21:44`	12
	the short of it is that noboday knows. everytime we ask a question of BEA or Digital we get back blank stares and things like "we don't have that information right now", or "we're working on that" without men- tion of any dates when said information will become available. so if you are looking for that warm and fuz- zy feeling, then join the club, because we here in engineering don't know what is going on ourselves. _sjz.
2809.2	Thanks Zach	OZROCK::PERKINS	Some contractors, their sex-life destroyed and overwhelmed by project pressures, turn to snorting quack.	`Tue Mar 11 1997 23:07`	5
	well at least i haven't missed anything :-) Cheers Kevin
2809.3	What is known now...	KLOVIA::MICHELSEN	BEA/DEC MessageQ Engineering	`Wed Mar 12 1997 10:18`	36
	re: .0 ...from the planning I have been involved in: - There shouldn't be any significant change in the way DmQ Engineering is part of the Digital's ENET when we transition to BEA. This should continue unchanged for 1-2 months until we cut over to BEA's internal network. - We will be looking into leaving behind PAMSRC to continue as the host for NOTEs, netkits and other related materials. It is unclear how much direct access will have to this node. Most likely the CSC will take over as moderators for the conference. - Digital CSC will continue to provide level I and II customer support with DmQ Engineering providing support to CSC. - As a result of not being directly on the ENET I suspect that any patches will have to be funneled through the CSC. - Digital and BEA are business partners and as a result Digital will continue to have an influence on DmQ's product directions. - The netkit availability I expect to continue, although I am not sure if the License PAKs will switch to being a royalty style like Motif. - There will still be a number Digital people tasked with handling Digital/BEA product issues like IPMTs. Hopefully the rest of the open issues will addressed in the next couple of months. Marty
2809.4	Any update on the items in .3?	BEAVER::MCKEATING		`Wed May 14 1997 10:58`	14
	Marty, it is now a few months since .3 and looks like most of the team have transfered. what is the status of this notes file and the monitoring on problems etc? Whether it is right or wrong people will continue to post problem reports here and expect a quality and speed of service they have recieved previous until someone clarifies what the problem reporting and support processes is. thanks in advance, Bob McKeating
2809.5		XHOST::SJZ	Kick Butt In Your Face Messaging !	`Wed May 14 1997 11:55`	8
	notes is not an official support channel and comes with no guarantee regarding "quality and speed of service". other official channels will be put in place BEFORE the existing channels (QAR, IPMT, CSC) are terminated (if they are terminated at all). _sjz.