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Conference pamsrc::decmessageq

Title:NAS Message Queuing Bus
Notice:KITS/DOC, see 4.*; Entering QARs, see 9.1; Register in 10
Moderator:PAMSRC::MARCUSEN
Created:Wed Feb 27 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2898
Total number of notes:12363

2777.0. "two questions on dmqld ping interval and timeout" by WHOS01::ELKIND (Steve Elkind, Digital SI @WHO) Tue Feb 18 1997 22:01

    My customer is experiencing network problems, and would like to
    experiment with the dmqld ping interval and heartbeat variables to try
    to cut the every-1.5-minute link loss he is seeing.  I am not
    recommending this approach to him, but I do have to be responsive to
    his questions (BTW, this is not the same development team from 2436.*).
    
    He is using v3.0B (I'm tremendously annoyed with them, their next
    release is NOT going to v3.2A, they are waiting until the release after
    that).  He would like to know that, since the default timeout of 60 sec
    is longer than the interval of 15 sec, whether when the ping goes out,
    and the response is a long time coming, do the following pings wait for
    the response, or just continue every 15 sec?
    
    He also wants to know what happens if these parameters are set
    differently on the remote group.
    
    In the meantime, after re-reading 2436.*, I'm ready to fill him in on
    the problems he will continue to encounter because his project manager
    decided not to take any risks by switching to more recent middleware
    (and hence DmQ) versions.  At least the groups on the client side of
    the equation are upgrading to v3.2A over the next two months.
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2777.1XHOST::SJZRocking the Messaging Desktop !Tue Feb 18 1997 22:217
    
    subsequent pings are sent no sooner than DMQLD_PING_INTERVAL
    units of time AFTER receipt of a response.  that  is  we  do
    not continue to send pings while there is  one  outstanding.
    there is no need to.
    
    _sjz.
2777.2thanksWHOS01::ELKINDSteve Elkind, Digital SI @WHOTue Feb 18 1997 22:324
    Thank you.
    
    What is the effect of having different parameters on either end of the
    link?
2777.3XHOST::SJZRocking the Messaging Desktop !Wed Feb 19 1997 00:097
    
    the link drivers ping each other independently of each other,
    so the values need not be the same.  however,  if there is a
    no response condition on the line,  the one with the smaller
    values should detect the condition  sooner  than  the  other.
    
    _sjz.
2777.4another questionWHOS01::ELKINDSteve Elkind, Digital SI @WHOWed Feb 19 1997 22:174
    Another question:  say the packet with the ping request gets dropped by
    a router under buffer-space-exhaustion conditions.  If this were using
    TCP, then it would be re-transmitted from the source.  Will this happen
    with the dmqld heartbeat, or is it sent using some form of UDP?
2777.5XHOST::SJZRocking the Messaging Desktop !Thu Feb 20 1997 09:103
    
    we use TCP not UDP.
    _sjz.