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Title:Movie Reviews and Discussion
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Created:Thu Jan 28 1993
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1080.0. "Dragonheart" by POLAR::TYSICK (You're a daisy if ya do...) Thu May 16 1996 14:31

    This topic is to discuss the upcoming movie Dragon Heart...
    
    Release date in Canada is the 29th of May 1996.
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1080.1You Will Believe.POLAR::TYSICKYou're a daisy if ya do...Thu May 16 1996 14:5110
    Dragon Heart stars...
    
    Dennis Quaid      David Thewlis       and Sean Connery as Draco
    
    From what I've seen, there's some great special F/X, kinda like a
    Dungeons & Dragons type Fantasy Flick.
    
    	Despite some laughter from some of the people in front of me in the
    theatre the other month, I plan on putting this one on my list of "Must
    See".
1080.2This time, why don't YOU be the dragon?SWAM1::STERN_TOTom Stern -- Have TK, will travel!Thu May 16 1996 19:004
    The previews made it look like a medieval version of "Skin Game," with
    Sean Connery providing the voice of the Louis Gossett character.
    
    tom
1080.3STAR::MDNITE::RIVERSNo commentFri May 17 1996 10:3920
    Well, as someone who's somewhat of a sucker for fantasy movies, it
    looks interesting enough to me that I'll probably see it.  My only real
    wince factor so far is that the dragon sounds too much like Sean
    Connery voicing a dragon and not enough like a dragon.  I mean, add
    some depth or rumble to the voice or someting to make it sound like a
    big old animal snarling "I am the LAST one!" instead of just using Mr.
    Connery (who has a fine voice, BTW, just a tremendously recognizable
    and, uh, human sounding one) doing voice overs.  
    
    After all, they put all that effort into making the dragon seem "real"
    otherwise....
    
    
    Just my two cents.  Maybe I'll think better of it after seeing the
    movie, maybe not.
    
    
    Cheers,
    
    kim
1080.4Cool none_the_less!POLAR::TYSICKYou're a daisy if ya do...Fri May 17 1996 12:134
    RE: .3 kim
    
    	I agree, his voice is apropriate with that some what gothic sound
    but could have used a grungier sound to it....
1080.5Just a minute, you Smooth Talker.....BRAT::MONBLEAUFri May 17 1996 13:2911
    Hold on a minute .......
    
    True followers of fanatasy should remember that REAL dragons can charm
    you to distractio, lull you into a false sense of security or
    completely beguile you. Before seeing the movie, I'm allowing that 
    Sean Connery may in fact have the perfect voice ..............
    
    (What I learned about dragons started with the Hobbit......)
    
    I too am looking forward to this and hope not to be disappointed.....
                                      
1080.6Boston showICS::CLELANDCCS Eastern SitesFri May 17 1996 17:551
    	Here in Boston, it's spelled Draggin' Hahhht...
1080.7WHAT IS IT?VYGER::GIBSONJSundays papers on a Saturday?Fri May 17 1996 17:565
    Is this an animated movie or is it live actors with animatronics or
    Jurassic Park style special effects?
    
    						Steve
    
1080.8KERNEL::PLANTCA song..played on a solo saxaphone..Mon May 20 1996 07:566
    
    
    live actors with Jurassic Park type effects.
    
    Chris
    :)
1080.9SWAM1::MEUSE_DAMon Jun 03 1996 12:366
    
    I thought it was pretty good.
    Lots of applause at the end of the film. Something you don't hear
    that often.
    
    
1080.10Some real funny parts too!POLAR::TYSICKKnight of the SoundtableMon Jun 03 1996 13:019
    Yeah it was pretty good, although I was a little dissapointed!
    
    F/X were top notch...even more believable than JP dinos  (9)
    Story could have used a little more immagination, but it was ok (5)
    Acting/casting I didnt think I'd like Dennis Quaid but I did and Sean
    Conerys voice was very well suited for Draco.  (8)
    Overall 7.2
    
    I just wished it had more of a D&D story to it!
1080.11Who was that man?MSBCS::LEHMKUHLH, V ii 216Tue Jun 04 1996 10:114
    Did anyone but me (surely not!) catch the uncredited cameo that was
    the voice of King Arthur??
    
    Chris
1080.12I thought it sounded familiar too!POLAR::TYSICKKnight of the SoundtableTue Jun 04 1996 11:104
    I think it was the same guy who did the voice of the "Knight" who
    protected the "Holy Grail" in "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade".
    
    
1080.13STAR::65320::RIVERSNo commentTue Jun 04 1996 11:2122
    Saw it.  A mediocre story with some painfully bad stuff (including some
    New Age Hooey which I can very much do without), but a nifty dragon
    that I liked far more than I thought I would have.  Much funnier than
    I'd have expected but that's because of the reparte between Dennis
    Quaid (who inexplicably talks in a deep, scratchy Pirate voice, without
    the Pirate jargon) and the dragon.  He's a very easy-going dragon, no
    velocipator here.  And he snorts fireballs out of his nostrils (makes
    me wonder what his sinus passages are made out of, but that's just me),
    which is fun for the kids.
    
    If you can sort of force your way past the lacking points (and there
    are many) of the movie, you may very well enjoy yourself.  They (the
    CGI types) did a good job with the dragon and not too many seams show
    between the "real" world and the beast.  
    
    It was far from great, but entertaining in a very low-expectation sort
    of way.
    
    **.5 out of ****
    
    
    kim
1080.14The VoiceMSBCS::LEHMKUHLH, V ii 216Tue Jun 04 1996 14:305
    re:.12  Interesting thought there.  I don't know if the same person
    did the Indy film.  I suppose it could be.  He had a role in
    "First Knight" last year.
    
    chris
1080.15NIOSS1::REEVEWed Jun 05 1996 12:323
    Is this film appropriate for 8-10 year olds? Scary? Adult content?
    
    Chris
1080.16age 8 and up OK, toddlers would be boredMSBCS::LEHMKUHLH, V ii 216Wed Jun 05 1996 12:417
    I'd say OK for that age group.  There's little or no "adult content",
    but a fair amount of violence as rebel peasants are crushed by
    the evil king/prince.  The dragon is certainly not going to be
    the source of any nightmares.
    
    Chris
    
1080.17NQOS01::s_coghill.dyo.dec.com::S_CoghillLuke 14:28Mon Jun 10 1996 12:5116
The wheat field going up in flames was pretty neat.  
Reminded me of the napalm run in "Apocalypse."

Dennis is capable of more passion than he showed in the 
flick.  I think he could have done better.  He also seemed 
to oscillate from a Scottish brogue to an Irish accent.

The kid-king was great.  I kept saying to myself during the 
movie, "Someone please pinch his head off."  His picture is 
next to the word "loathsome" in the dictionary.

I like movies that snooker me (one of the reasons "The 
Sting" is high on my list).  When Mom presented the five 
dragonslayers to her son, I simply said, "B*tch."  After 
all, it was her action that put the pimple on the throne.  
Enjoyed having to eat my words on that one.
1080.18looking for a poster....NHASAD::WINDHAM"Living Life Without a Net"Thu Jun 27 1996 22:5913
Okay, I enjoyed the movie as pure entertainment.

Would any of you know if there might be posters available? In particular, I'd
love to get my hands on the scene after King Arthur's appearance, when Drago
shielded the emotionally spent knight from the downpour of rain.

I personally found the scene to be poignant. Symbolic of their new relationship.

Any info/pointers on Dragonheart paraphernalia?  

Thanks,

Sue
1080.19KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Fri Jun 28 1996 05:557
    
    
    the theatres here are giving away free dragon heart mini posters.
    Nothing thrilling as I remember.
    
    Chris
    :)
1080.20KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Mon Jul 29 1996 07:066
    
    
    Anybody know when the UK release date is for this?
    
    Chris
    :)
1080.21EDSCLU::JAYAKUMARThu Aug 01 1996 10:563
	dissapointed... but ok!

**/5
1080.22COMICS::MILLSSIvanova is God !Thu Aug 01 1996 12:2912
> Dennis is capable of more passion than he showed in the 
> flick.  I think he could have done better.  He also seemed 
> to oscillate from a Scottish brogue to an Irish accent.

A common affliction amongst american actors, I feel. just listen to Scottie from
Star Trek !

Then again, he did try. Sean Connery doesn't even bother trying to do accents. I
wonder, is this a case of less is more ? Maybe I should start a new topic for
accents ?

Simes %^)
1080.23KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Thu Aug 01 1996 12:407
    
    
    
    what's wrong with Scotty's accent in Star Trek?
    
    Chris
    :)
1080.24SNAX::NOONANsing the soul's bluesFri Aug 02 1996 01:484
    Especially since James Doohan isn't an American actor?
    
    
    E
1080.25OopsCOMICS::MILLSSIvanova is God !Fri Aug 02 1996 08:503
I stand corrected ! So what nationality is James Doohan, then ?

Siems %^)
1080.26RIOT02::SUMMERFIELDSic Transit Gloria MundiFri Aug 02 1996 08:593
    Canadian I think.
    
    Clive
1080.27KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Fri Aug 02 1996 09:206
    
    
    Yup..I think Clive is right. He is Canadian.
    
    Chris
    :)
1080.28-):EDSCLU::JAYAKUMARFri Aug 02 1996 11:284
American..? Canadian..?   	

Whats the difference..?

1080.29Dagnabit, No ice hockey in the summer Olympics!POLAR::TYSICKFuzzy Bunnies Guide to You Know What?Fri Aug 02 1996 12:573
    RE: The difference?
    
    	About 78 medals at the end of the Olympics!  [^;=
1080.30One could argue he IS an AmericanUNXA::ZASLAWFri Aug 02 1996 15:177
>    Especially since James Doohan isn't an American actor?
 
American Heritage Dictionary (C)1975:

American 
1. [Guess]
2. Of, in, or pertaining to North or South America, or the Western Hemisphere.
1080.31One guess where this info comes from...QUARRY::reevesJon Reeves, UNIX compiler groupThu Aug 15 1996 20:113
Re .20:
>Anybody know when the UK release date is for this?
11 October.
1080.32KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Fri Aug 16 1996 06:4010
    
    
    
    re october 11
    
    
    oh well...I'll catch it in Canada in a few weeks hopefully :))
    
    Chris
    :)
1080.33COMICS::MILLSSToday we celebrate our Independence Day!Fri Aug 16 1996 11:057
Re .-1

>    oh well...I'll catch it in Canada in a few weeks hopefully :))

As long as its still playing over there by then ...

Simes %^)
1080.34KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Mon Aug 19 1996 08:177
    
    
    
    Yeah..hope I don't miss it between countries!
    
    Chris
    :)
1080.30SPLASH!!!!VYGER::GIBSONJSundays papers on a Saturday?Tue Sep 24 1996 19:096
1080.314 out of 5 I'd say!SUBSYS::MSOUCYMentalmETALMikeWed Jan 15 1997 12:095
1080.32WRKSYS::LASKYWed Jan 15 1997 16:206
1080.33Humor was bad, and script was worse!PEAKS::IANNICELLITue Jan 21 1997 10:586
1080.34liked itGRANPA::JBOBBJanet Bobb dtn:339-5755Wed Jan 29 1997 15:1832
    Saw this over the christmas holiday - mainly because of Sean Connery
    and to see how they did the 'dragon'. Didn't know what to expect.
    
    Ended up liking it very much. Would not have recognized Dennis Quaid
    without the credits. as an earlier noter said - the king-son needed his
    head pinched off! Liked the mother - again - didn't realize who it was
    until the credits. It was nice to realize she still had spirit despite
    what must have been a brutal marriage and a vast dissapointment (in her
    son).
    
    I like Sean connery's voice, irregardless of accent and thought he had
    a very dashing dragon's  voice. but then, I am partial to connery
    already.
    
    the special effects with the dragon were pretty good. The technology is
    almost ready to do some of the Anne McCaffrey  Dragons of Pern stories
    without it looking really hookey. Though I'm not sure if the mixing of
    a generated dragon with a human on it would like any good.
    
    I also liked the confrontation scene where Draco goes to swallow the
    knight and they end up in a stalemate. 
    
    good rental!
    
    possible spoiler comments after formfeed
    
    I like that Draco and the knight team up to scam nobility. The second
    plunge into water, where it's only a few feet deep is really funny.
    
    I was bummed at the end, but it is the only logical ending. It would
    have been nice to somehow preserve the dragon, but do away with the
    king.