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    Showgirls I think is still in the making, and your right it looks\
    good, hot & sexy!  yahhoooooooooooooooooo!
    
    
    
    
    BR

    
    I'll probably see it, but it's gonna be tough seeing one of the cast of
    "Saved By The Bell" starring....  
    
    - Sean

    
    No it won't; have you seen her? That girl has blossomed into
    a women!   
    
    
    
    you'll enjoy it!

    
    	"Saved by the Bell"?  Is she the same one from "90210" or "Melrose"
    	or whatever she ended up on?
    

    
    No, the one from Saved from the Bell was Tiffany Amber Thiessen and she
    went to play a vamp on 90210.

    Her name is Elizabeth Berkley :from saved by the bell.
    
    
    
    She is featured in the recent issue of Premiere mag. August
    
    
    
    
    Bob

    
    >She is featured in the recent issue of Premiere mag. August
    
    
    	I was hoping you'd say "Penthouse".  8^)
    

    
    I know that will be next, keep watching.....

    
    this flick just got an nc-17 rating.
    the article mentioned something about "raw sex".
    oh gee.
    
    

    so can anyone speak to the socially redeeming qualities of this
    movie??? 
    
    

    
    	If it had any, I wouldn't bother going to see it.
    
    	8^)
    

    
    re .3 - The word is "woman", not women.
    
    re .10 - How many movies out there actually have redeeming
    social qualities?   All too few.
    
    This whole NC-17 thing cracks me up.  Violence is fine, blood,
    guts, whatever...heck, put it on the 6 o'clock news even, but
    nudity?!   Heaven forbid!!
    
    As to the film possibly containing graphic sex, that would be
    another story, but nudity alone - what's the big deal?!  If 
    folks don't want to see nudity, they obviously should stay away.
      
    Sue
              

     Ok, who has seen "Showgirls"??? I need to know how it is!!!

    I didn't see it, but a group of my friends (all male, all early 20's)
    saw it and universally panned it. They said it was abysmal and they
    were checking their watches to see how much longer they had to endure.
    
    I figure if it misses on its target audience that badly, I'll pass.

    
    	The "Showgirls" screenwriter said that he wishes high school kids
    	would sneak in to see the movie, because the message he was trying
    	to get across was that the "showgirl" life isn't all it's cracked
    	up to be.
    
    	I haven't seen it yet, but I do have the "Rolling Stone" ad on my
    	wall here.  Drool.  8^)
    

    > The "Showgirls" screenwriter said that he wishes high school kids
    > would sneak in to see the movie, because the message he was trying
    > to get across was that the "showgirl" life isn't all it's cracked
    > up to be.
    
    Sure, it's the *message* that's the most important thing ... :-)
    
    Well, my high-school son and friends (all 17 years old, � 6 months)
    went last night.  They, too, universally panned it.  He did say that
    the 12-year-olds (that got out of their movie early and sneaked
    next door to "Showgirls") *did* seem to be enjoying it.  If their
    parents only knew what happens after they got dropped off at the
    movies ...
    
    				dick
    

    The duplicate topic and its replies have been consolidated and moved
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    Please do a "DIR/TITLE=show" (or whatever) before creating a new topic. 
    The moderators would rather be spending their time on their real jobs.
    ;^)
    
    Thanks,
    
    - Dave Wiegleb, co-moderator

For what it's worth, Siskel and Ebert both gave "Showgirls" a thumbs-down
rating, based on poor writing, mostly.  

-- Nina

    
    went to rent Pulp Fiction. they were handing out the 8 minutes
    promo video of this flick for no rental charge.
    
    if you want a good idea what this flick is about, catch the 8
    minutes. it just about sums up the movie based on what I have
    read.
    
    

    
    	Well, that's California.  Might not be available over here on
    	the right coast.
    
    	Which video store?
    

    
    Actually, this was a nationwide promotion.  Video stores everywhere had
    'em.  Howie Carr went and got a bunch to give out on his show.  The
    annoying thing was that these were free promo videos, but all the
    stores and rental places were only giveing them out if you
    purchases/rented something.
    
    I think they're wondering if this might be a new way to go for promos,
    and you may see it a few more times.
    
    - Sean

    
    I can't wait to see this movie; what is so wrong with women who
    are comfortable with their bodies and being nude. And in real
    life there are Showgirls in Vegas & stripclubs around America!
    So what's the big deal?
    
    
    
    Bob

  Joyce Kilhawick of Boston WBZ TV panned the film but I noticed that she
continued the trend I've seen with other critics. Almost no critic says one way
or the other if the movie was well made. They all seem so outraged by the
content that they either give a serious review panning the film from a moral
point of view or they talk about the subject matter in words reeking with
cynicism. 

  Some of the reviews here have been far more informative than anything I've
seen in the papers or on TV.

  George 

    My impression from my friends was that they were thrilled at the
    prospect of going to a film to stare at womanflesh (they're all male in
    their early 20's, remember?) but found it to be a horrible movie and a
    complete waste of their time.
    
    This is from guys who will watch bass fishing on ESPN for an hour
    because they left the remote on top of the TV and don't feel like
    moving to get it.

    .22  Exactly!  But the movie wants us to feel "sorry" for the showgirls
    because its stated objective is to let the world know what the "real"
    showgirl life is like.  Terrific.  If a woman wants to take her clothes
    off and display her no-doubt great body, then she should anticipate
    the results of that.  As a woman, why should I feel sorry for these
    women.  They can get a job in a computer company, no? :>{
    
    
    
    

    So.
    
    How come there's not a 'Showboys'?
    
    Never mind,
    
    db

    
    
     According to an article in the paper the other day,
    even the real showgirls in Vegas thought the movie stunk. They laughed
    at it's untrue coverage. Without giving away any plot or surprises
    (is this possible ?) I guess the theory of the movie is the climb from
    stripper to showgirl and clawing your way to the top. Apparently, in
    real life, much the opposite happens because the girls interviewed
    said that many would be lured from showbiz to stripping because of
    the huge pay differential.
    
     They also mentioned how many showgirls have been dancing since they
    were children and have formal training in ballet, music, etc and are
    expected to choriograph some of their own stuff. 

    re: Joyce K. on Ch 4
    
    	I loved the ending line of her review though, "wished they kept it
    	zipped up." Poor Liz almost fell off her chair in shock... :-)
    

    I doubt I'll ever see this film given a comment in a review I read
    stating something to the effect of "...the only character worth caring
    about is brutally gang-raped... "  Not something to entice me to spend
    time & money on.
    
    Doug

    I haven't seen Congo but i think Showgirls must be up there with the
    turkeys. Did anyone notice a story behind the nudity?
    
    
    mike
    

    
    
    There was supposed to be a story??:))))
    
    Chris
    :)

    
    "Showgirls" is being re-marketed out in CA, and, if it works,
    probably the rest of the country.
    
    The studio is presenting it as a late-night cult film, trying
    to give it the "Rocky Horror" treatment, using the same ploys
    to get folks to go, i.e., going to trash the film is very 
    welcome.
    
    - Sean
    

    Who cares about the plot.  Ya gotta admit..whew, that Berkeley(sp)
    girl.
    -ss

    Maybe it was just because I was expecting so little but I didn't think
    the movie was that bad.  Mind you, it definitely wasn't one of the year's
    best but I have seen worse.  I didn't fall asleep in it at least.
    
    John

  >Rape is violence, not sex.
    
    
    Sorry.  *I* knew my thought process; I expected everyone else to, also.
    
    R, NC-17 and X ratings are based on sex *and* on violence.  It was from
    that that the comment about the rape scene came.
    
    
    E