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Title:Movie Reviews and Discussion
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Created:Thu Jan 28 1993
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
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653.0. "Naked Lunch" by 38118::LUCHT (Cool weather, stronger beer) Tue Sep 20 1994 09:46

    
         Rented "Naked Lunch" last night at request of a friend.
    Has anyone seen this movie?  Absolutely bizarre, to say the
    least.  
         As an aside, the musical group Steely Dan took their
    name from a device mentioned in the novel, Naked Lunch, to
    which the movie was later made.
         If someone can make sense of this one, please post it
    here.
    
    
    Later,
    Kev --
                                   
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653.1Re: .0, how about giving us a review of it?NETRIX::michaudJohnny DeppTue Sep 20 1994 11:010
653.227958::TOMAOTue Sep 20 1994 13:214
    Steely Dan is English slang for a used condom - at least that was the
    'trivia' I had once heard about it.
    
    Jt
653.3a very cheap rental16913::MEUSE_DATue Sep 20 1994 13:2612
    
    If that's the one with Peter Weller (Robocop), then I rented it for 39
    cents quite awhile ago. 
    
    It was bizarre, but I found it boring and kept hitting the FF quite 
    a bit. Don't recall much of what the heck it was about...lots of
    oooozing things in it.
    
    Some people liked it though.
    
    Dave                  
    
653.4DSSDEV::RUSTTue Sep 20 1994 14:3513
    "Naked Lunch" was based (not nearly as loosely as one might have hoped)
    on the life and writings of William S. Burroughs, famous for a number
    of gritty and/or surreal works including "Naked Lunch" and "Junkie".
    (Burroughs may currently be glimpsed in an athletic-shoe commercial - 
    go figure). I haven't read many of Burroughs' other works, but the
    impression I got from the two I mentioned is that he can juxtapose
    bitterly painful subjects with cackling humor, plus occasional bursts
    of nausea. I think the film did a pretty good job of depicting someone
    wandering between the factual and fantasy elements of the writer's
    life; it left me feeling vague confusion with just a touch of despair,
    which I think is about right for the subject matter.
    
    -b
653.538118::LUCHTCool weather, stronger beerTue Sep 20 1994 14:3810
    
    RE:  -1
    
    I'm glad you said it.  By buddy asked me if I
    liked it.  I replied "I don't know."  That's
    the confusing part.
    
    Kev --
    
    
653.645347::SUMMERFIELDSynthetic Chiefs with T.V. SmilesWed Sep 21 1994 05:159
The thing to remember is that Naked Lunch is more a film about
Burroughs writing Naked Lunch than it is a film of the book Naked
Lunch. It certainly captures the confused, despairing, distorted 
feel of the book.

With reference to Steely Dan, I believe it is a vibrator, not a 
used condom.

Clive
653.7the surreal as metaphorREGENT::POWERSWed Sep 21 1994 10:0310
I observe that all artists think that their art is different from other
artists' arts, in that they have special pressures, that their muses call 
differently, whatever.
I saw Naked Lunch as the writers' view of their art, sort of a cliquish
presentation, a collection of "in jokes" by and about writers
and their tools (the obsession with typewriters, for example).

Did I like it?  I don't know either, but I wouldn't bother watching it again.

- tom]
653.8Ahhhhhhh38346::SCHIAVONEHow can I laugh tomorrow,Wed Sep 21 1994 12:244
	Steely Dan is an erection, is it not?

	/Cap'n Quad
653.9DSSDEV::RUSTWed Sep 21 1994 13:184
    Re the true meaning of Steely Dan: this sounds like a job for JOYOFLEX.
    [Or MUSIC, or something.]
    
    -b-the-moderator
653.10I'm going to flip all the cardsOBSESS::BEAUPREDuck and CoverWed Sep 21 1994 18:009
    People, it's not a vibrator, a used condom, or a republican -- it's 
    a dildo. Or a broken vibrator, if you will. Or if you won't, for
    that matter.
    
    There's no way in hell a movie could be made of the book, so
    Cronenberg chose to center the film around Bill writing the 
    book. Sort of. Not for everyone. Ok, not for most people. Hell,
    it probably only works for about 19 people. I really liked it, 
    but I wouldn't recommend it.
653.11Let's play William Tell, honey . . .36058::CARROLLJEven a clown knows when to strikeWed Sep 21 1994 20:368
    re -.1
    
    	Correct on all accounts.  "I liked it, but wouldn't recommend it."
    pretty much sums it up, except I *did* recommend it to my
    ex-girlfriend's extremely conservative parents once.  Wish I'd had the
    chance to find out their reactions :-)
    
    						- Jimbo
653.1238118::LUCHTCool weather, stronger beerThu Sep 22 1994 07:167
    
    > I *did* recommend it to my ex-girlfriend's extremely
      conservative parents once.
    
    That is a riot!!!
    
    
653.1336905::BUCHMANUNIX refugee in a VMS worldFri Sep 23 1994 18:0210
    >     > I *did* recommend it to my ex-girlfriend's extremely
    >     > conservative parents once.
    
    >     That is a riot!!!
    
    Reminds me of when my fairly conservative father got "A Clockwork
    Orange" from the local library. My very conservative mother asked him
    what it was about, and he said "Some science fiction movie, I think."
    I don't think either lasted beyond the first half hour.
    
653.14But I digress...38346::SCHIAVONEHow can I laugh tomorrow,Sat Sep 24 1994 09:275
	I once recommended Blue Velvet to a born again...I bet that went over
	well

	/Cap'n Quad
653.15METALX::SWANSONRide The LightningSun Nov 19 1995 16:4725
    Very strange movie!  I just rented it last night.
    
    For those who don't know what it's about.  As best as I can describe,
    it's about this guy who's a bug exterminator, and he finds out his
    wife is shooting up his bug poison, and getting high from it.
    
    He tries it, and starts doing it too.  Then he starts hallucinating.
    Or is he... it's so hard to tell fantasy from reality in this movie
    because it's so bizzarre!  
    
    Something terrible happens, and he has to go to this place called The
    Interzone.   In there, he has to write lots of "reports".  His
    typewriter likes what he types on it, and it turns into a giant
    cockroach, who starts talking to him.
    
    At some point, he must use another typewriter because his precious one
    has been kidnapped.  The new typewriter also turns into a creature,
    only this one excretes some goop out of it's tentacales that he gets
    high on.  Very very strange movie, but I liked it I have to admit
    (despite it's numerous homosexual references).
    
    Definately not a movie for everyone though!
    
    Ken