Conference bookie::movies

    ...what's the matter with Doctor Who???????
    
    I bet that if the good Doctor saved your entire planet from the
    Daleks, you'd change your tune!!!!!
    
    :^)
    
    mac (a wanna-be time lord)
    

>     ...what's the matter with Doctor Who???????

	I'm not even sure they ever made any "Doctor Who" movies?
	The "feature length" showings on Ch. 11 (NH) are the
	really sequential showing of all the episodes for one
	story line.

	As far as these top 10 lists go, GAL!

    
    >	As far as these top 10 lists go, GAL!
    
    
    	Oh, come now ... are they that bad?
    
    	Give me 10 reasons they shouldn't be here.  8^)
    
    							GTI

    There were two feature-length "Doctor Who" movies made during the
    60's starring Peter Cushing (who never played The Doctor on TV).
    
    -- Bill

    I used to love the moment in BattleStar when the continuity person
    would go to the bathroom and one of the stars would give us a;
    "Hold on a second, wait a minute, etc".
    
    They did add a few forced "Wait a centon, etc", so they kind of mixed
    them up.

    
    
   " Attack of the Giant Leeches." (Black & White circa 1960?)
    
    (It really sucked, but had it's moments)
    
    re: 0
    
    Now what the heck was wrong with the Last Starfighter, had a reasonably
    good plot, good actors/actress, good F/X. It was bit tame, but so
    was Night of the Comet. Another good sifi flick.
    
    Dark STar? now that film was a real bore.
    
    Dave
    

    
    re.0
    
    Total recall.....on the bad list.
    
    Arnie and Sharon at their best, great FX, not-so-bad storyline. Lots of 
    actions and some gore. Who can forget those great scenes of Arnies
    eyeballs popping in and out of his head...women with three or was it
    four .......
    
    Dark STar.....on the A list?

  Here's some more good ones that weren't included in .0

	Solent Green
	Westworld
	Logan's Run(it had some weird moments but all in all, it was pretty 
		good)

		Keith

    
    Hey, I LIKED Dark Star........
    

    �Hey, I LIKED Dark Star........
    
    I agree. IMO a classic.
    
    Royston

    
    
    Let us not forget that classic, the original:
    
          "War of the Worlds"
    
    with Gene Barry and F/X by George Pal.
    
    One of the really, really well made SF films.
    
    Dave
    

    Hey,
        is no-one else going to make a complete fool of themselves by
    listing their fav/grave top 10's ???
    
    Davie. (still hate DR ?)

> is no-one else going to make a complete fool of themselves by listing their 
> fav/grave top 10's ???

Well, I will say that there are *much* worse SF films out there than what's
listed in .0. You obviously haven't watched MST3K (Mystery Science Theater
3000), or else you would be all too familiar with such gems as "Rocketship
X-M", "Time Of The Apes", "Lost Continent", and "Alien From L.A.". 

This stuff makes movies like "Last Starfighter" look like "2001"!!! 8^)

alan

    How about "Plan 9 From Outer Space"?  
    
    Lorna
    

    
    	RE: Alan
    
    	"Alien from LA" was on cable a couple years ago, and I taped it
    	[because Kathy Ireland was in it], but I haven't seen it yet.
    
    	I guess I might as well record something over it, eh?
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI

    re: Plan 9 From Outer Space. 
    
    This title rings a bell but I can't remember the plot. Can anyone
    fill me in on it ?
    
    Davie. 

> Plan 9 From Outer Space. 
    
That was a classic....loved those hub-caps and the invisible change of actor 
2/3 of the way through :-)

    RE .9 +.10
    
    Dark Star??? Sorry, I'm a John Carpenter fan but, That only goes so
    far. The only laugh I got from this *gem* is when the guy stabbed
    himself playing mumblety peg (sp?)!
     This one makes my Major Dog list.
    
    Kevin

> "Alien from LA" was on cable a couple years ago, and I taped it [because 
> Kathy Ireland was in it], but I haven't seen it yet.
> I guess I might as well record something over it, eh?

Well, you might want to watch it for a laugh... it's pretty bad, though!
(Which means it was great on MST3K! 8^)

alan

...it's way too painful.  Watching "Alien from LA" proved to me beyond a 
doubt that God has a sense of humor.  Kathy Ireland...absolutely beautiful
woman..with the most horrible, painfully squeeky voice you have ever heard
in your life.

Even the MSTified version of "Alien from LA" wasn't very pleasant.  I sure
as heck would avoid the non-MSTied version like the plague.

--Chris

    > re: Plan 9 From Outer Space.
    >
    >    This title rings a bell but I can't remember the plot. Can anyone
    >    fill me in on it ?
    
    The reason why it might sound familiar is that, ever since UNIX became
    a commercially important operating system instead of a little in-house
    OS for engineers, the folks at AT&T (now UNIX Labs) who originally
    wrote UNIX have been working on a new project. Kernighan, Thomson,
    Pike, Ritchie, et al have been developing an OS which they hope to be
    the ultimate distributed operating system, in which one really doesn't
    know or care where files physically reside or on what CPU your
    processor is running. They called this new operating system Plan 9,
    after the movie. I've never seen the movie so I don't know what the
    relationship is. I have also not heard whether Plan 9 ever became
    widely used outside UNIX Labs, though there have been a few papers on
    it at technical conferences.
    
    				Jim    

    "Plan 9 From Outer Space" (a.k.a. "Grave Robbers From Outer Space")

    The all-time worst movie ever made, by that "genius" of the bad
    Edward D. Wood, Jr.  This was Wood's auteur film about aliens from
    another world who attempt to stop Earth's nuclear experiments by
    animating the recently dead via their "electrode guns".  The aliens
    believe that Earth will progress from nuclear fission/fusion to a
    "solarinite" device in which the particles of light are themselves
    detonated.  The aliens believe that this explosion will cause a chain
    reaction from star to star eventually destroying their home star and,
    thus, their home planet.

    A "must see" for the B-movie junkie.  Stars Bela Lugosi in his final
    role, plus Wood's standard bevy of players.
    
    
    0.0025 *  out of   ****
    (but ****  out of **** on the "bad" scale)



    FWIW,
    David.

    Just remembered another dog - The Alien Factor. Kind of an Aliens rip
    off. I think it starred an actor who always seems to play a cop in B
    movies. Was his name Robert Loggia ??
    
    Anyone clear this up ?
    
    Davie.

     
    IMO the worst sci-fi movie I have ever wanted to forget seeing was
    a dog called ," Liquid Sky ".  
                                                  ray

    re .22, I recently saw Plan 9 From Outer Space and thought it was one
    of the funniest movies I've ever seen, and I'm not even a fan of either
    science fiction or bad movies.  
    
    Has lines such as "Golly, Jim, look! It's a UFO!" etc.
    (may not be an actual quote but gives the idea)
    
    Lorna
    

    
    	RE: .23
    
    	Probably John Saxon.  Same guy who played the father in the first
    	"Nightmare on Elm Street".
    
    							GTI
    

    
    ...another classic, I've seen it too many times to still enjoy it. Only
    wish I had a machine like it:
    
    "The Time Machine"(remember seeing it at the theater as a kid,
                       thought it was amazing). 
     1960
    
    Another favorite: "Time After Time" (the one where H.G. Wells goes
                                         after Jack the Ripper who has
                                         went ahead in time).
    
    My All Time favorites are: Alien and Aliens. 
    
    And I wish the third had been directed again by Cameron
    
    Dave

what about "The Last Man on Earth"?  (Vincent Price, the original from which
"Night of the Living Dead" et al derived)

do "Raiders of the Lost Ark" and "Dr. Strangelove" qualify?

certainly "Buckaroo Banzai" must...

around the same time as "The Time Machine" was "Journey to the Center of the
Earth" (Pat Boone??)

    I must agree with note 1 of this conference (Dr.Who is complete cack! -
    for children) real sci-fi is Alien,Aliens,Predator,The Thing But I also
    think Dark Star,Forbidden Planet are dung aswell.
    
                                                   Rich.

    I forgot to mention the Superb Star-Wars Trilogy as one of my
    favorites, A lot of people tend to go in for the Star Trek films
    but I think they are a par on Dr.Who(Totally crap!)
    
                                                   Rich.

    
    
    	Did anyone mention "The Day the Earth stood still"?.
    
    	That is an oldie and a good one.
    
    			Juan

    re .31
    
    It's in the base note - a classic. Had good tension and a plausible
    human interest in the script.
    
    re .29
    
    Although i said Star Wars was good I meant that it was good if you were
    stiff above the neck. Nothin personal - just think you're a tool.
    
    Dav.

    
    re: Forbidden Planet as dung?
    
        Most consider this film a true classic. It had F/X and audio stuff
    that was great for it's time (1954 or 56?). Good cast, good storyline.
    Many of the cast are still around today.
    
       Oh well can't please everybody.
    
    Dave
    

    I kinda liked 'fobidden planet' and 'this island Earth'.They're effects
    are cheesey but they were quite watchable.I also enjoyed alien,aliens,
    terminator 1 and 2 and predator.I could never really find myself
    getting into the Star trek movies,I prefer the old tv re-runs which
    were always compulsive viewing.
    
    
    						ian

    	How about ...
    
    			The Day The Earth Caught Fire.
    
    
    	Efw
    

    My favorite science fiction movie is Star Wars, hands down.  Still
    could watch it a few hundred more times.
    
    
    Worst science fiction movie I've seen: kinda a toss up between DefCon 4
    (Pee-ewwwww!!!) and Galaxy of Terror, where Erin Moran (she of Happy
    Days) gets raped by a giant worm (we're talking Winnebago sized here). 
    Why a worm would be interested in Erin Moran or any other human, I
    dunno, but there you go.  :)
    
    
    kim
       

    I'd be interested in her :-) Mind you Happy Days was a long time ago.
    
    Never heard of the flick "The Day The Earth Caught Fire"
    
    Davie,

    Alien from LA is a definite must on MST3K.  I was crying I laughed so
    hard...
    
    I can't believe Ireland made such a terrible movie.  yikes.

    
    Geez, it was making the rounds on cable a year ago...
    
    The cycle time is getting shorter, as it is for everything else...
    
    DFW

What about Dollman that was absolutely dire

The man who plays "Sledghammer" is a Dirty Harry type cop chasing a fugitive
in a High Tech world when their spaceships go through some warped space and land
in New York where they are 12 inches high

    re .-1  
       The two guy aren't the same person. The guy in Dollman was in such
    wonders as Trancers I,II,III, Cherry 2000. and Darkstar. The gusy who 
    played in SledgeHammer sticks mostly to TV.
                              Jeff Peters

    Tim Thomerson was the guy in Dollman and the Trancers movies. I think
    he's been in quite a few B-movies as a leading character, but has 
    been limited to supporting roles in "legitmate" films.
    
    -Mike

    
    	"Sledgehammer" [David Rasche] was one of the cops in "An Innocent
    	Man" with Tom Selleck.
    
    							GTI
    

    Can anyone help me out with the name of an ancient sci-fi movie?
    
    My first experience of sci-fi flicks gave me nightmares for months!
    It was the first movie in a double-header around 1960-61. The second
    film was an Elvis film, and my friend's older sister, who was madly in
    love with Elvis, dragged us to the movie with her. 
    
    Anyways, I remember the black-and-white sci-fi flick better than
    Elvis... In it, some aliens took over earth people's bodies, and the 
    people ended up as piles of dust at the bottom of an empty 
    swimming pool. I think at the end of the film that the aliens had 
    succeeded in taking over just about all the major characters, and they
    were beginning to fill the pool with water, watching the ashes just 
    swirl away.
    
    
    Any clues?
    
    Karen

    Anybody going to the round-the-clock Sci-Fi festival at the Coolidge
    next month?  I saw an ad in the paper said there are only 200 tickets
    left for this annual event.
    

    re: 37
    
    The are doing a remake of "The Day the Earth Caught Fire".
    
    The original was ok, lots of sweating people.
    
    Dave
    

    Re .44: Sounds cool, but I don't remember it; you might try asking on
    the usenet, if you don't get a response here.
    
    One of my early shudder-inducers is another film-whose-title-I-can't-
    quite-remember; something to do with a mad scientist on a tropical
    island conducting bizarre experiments to rule the world and/or heal his
    wife, which doesn't help much as there were gazillions of movies like
    that. The scene that sticks in my mind is one in which the wife, who's
    been running around fully swathed in bandages the whole movie, rips a
    strip of bandage from her face, revealing her eyes staring from
    skeletal sockets!!! [OK, so it's pretty silly; if the sockets really
    were like that, her eyeballs would have just flopped around in the
    bottom instead of staring front-and-center like they did. But it scared
    the dickens out of me at the time, and I've never come across the movie
    since.]
    
    This one wasn't even close to science fiction, except in the most
    general sense (fiction that includes the word "science"), but I'm not
    one for being picky about genres. ;-)
    
    -b

    47 replies and nobody mentions "Brazil"!!!  
    
    Carl

    One Sci Fi movie that was a pleasant surpise:
    
    Tremors
    
    I'll never forget the scene where the unsuspecting poor dumb wormoid picks
    Michael Gross' rec room to invade.  Also the unsuspecting house builder
    who sits on the tailgate of his station wagon and fortells his demise
    with the line "I'm dead".
    
    Shawn

    Re .50: "Tremors" was great fun - but I tend to think of "Grade B
    Monster Movies" as a genre of their own (genres being, after all, just
    a convenient way to file the tapes...).
    
    -b

I agree with .49. Many "science fiction" movies deliberately tongue-in-cheek,
and others are simply cops-and-robbers in space. These are not very satisfying
to a hard-core science fiction junkie.

Best:

- 2001                  - in a class by itself, SF and non-SF
- Bladerunner           - one of the greatest of the greats (there actually
                          aren't too many "greats").

Other good ones, not necessarily in order:

- Terminator            - as said before, a good idea/story, with great effects,
                          adds up to a film with great visual and visceral 
                          impact - "takes a licking and keeps on ticking".
- T2                    - a deliberate commercially compromised sequel, but with
                          Cameron at the helm, who cares.
- Alien                 - More of a creepy scary movie. I went expecting 
                          another 2001, and was disappointed, but in retrospect,
                          a great idea, and good Ridley Scott.
- Aliens                - one of the rare cases where the sequel is better than
                          the original, although this is arguable. Better
                          effects, better action (a plus for some), a totally
                          different directing style. As a Cameron fan, I enjoyed
                          it more.
- Star Wars             - I really liked only the 1st one, while the others
                          were watchable. The 1st one was the innovator, and the
                          lightest on its feet, which I believe is truest to the
                          spirit of what it was trying to do. It was also the
                          only one with Lucas directing. The others I thought
                          suffered from sequel-itis, with all-too-obvious
                          commercial efforts to sell teddy bears. A good example
                          of white hats vs black hats in space.
- Star Trek IV          - Again, it was fun, light on its feet, and true to the
                          spirit of the series, not trying to take itself too
                          seriously.
- Close encounters      - No one has mentioned this one. While soft core in 
                          some respects, one of the great directing jobs by
                          Spielberg.
- Invasion of the Body Snatchers(remake) - a real chiller, no one mentioned it.

Honorable mentions, that didn't quite work:

- Dune                  - I hesitate to mention it, the implementation was very
                          uneven, but a noble attempt. I liked Blue Velvet a    
                          lot, so I'll try to give Lynch the benefit of the     
                          doubt. 
- Millenium             - A real B movie, but an intersting attempt at a good
                          book.
- Predator              - Uneven, but good effects. The sequel had its moments
                          as well.
- Total Recall          - Started out ridiculous, with all the gratuitous       
                          exploding blood bombs, but about halfway thru, when
                          that sweating character shows up saying "this isn't
                          real", I found myself saying "wait a minute, this is
                          getting interesting". The story itself is also 
                          interesting (which, by the way, like Bladerunner, is
                          from a Phillip K. Dick story). Still, Verhoven grossed
                          me out with his reliance on cheap shots.
                          
- There are probably many more in this category that I can't think of at the
  moment. Other ideas?

Great classics:

- The Day The Earth Stood Still - unique to its era, powerful, thoughtful, and
                                  though dated in style, as timely today as
                                  ever. These were the post WWII days when 
                                  the idea that "might makes right" was in, and
                                  the world was always saved from "alien menace"
                                  (from space) by the Army. This one broke the
                                  mold.
- THX1138                       - No one mentioned this one either.
- War of the Worlds 
- Time Machine         
- 1984                           - No one mentioned this one.
- Invasion of the Body Snatchers - Ditto
- The Thing                      - Ditto

- Outer Limits          - Since this is TV, I assume no one has thought of it.
                          While many episodes are pure cheese (like all TV
                          series which contain a few good episodes), a few are
                          very good (e.g., Bellero Shield, Feasibility Study,
                          Demon With a Glass Hand) by any science fiction
                          standard.
- Star Trek: TNG        - Likewise, a few episodes really shine for interesting
                          ideas, sharp writing, etc.

The Worst:
- ET

Anyone remember an old '50's thing about these giant black crystals that grew
out of the ground, feeding on water, falling, crashing, crushing towns, and
regrowing as they moved along?

Another question - I heard some time back that they were planning a story which
combines the Aliens and the Predators, about a war between the two, where a
human gets involved by saving a Predator. I even heard Cameron was involved.
Anyone else know about this?

-Bruce

Bruce, if you're such a James Cameron fan (as I am as well), why didn't you
list 'The Abyss' anywhere? I think that is Cameron's true masterpiece, and
belongs on your 'Best' list.

alan

    
    
    Does anyone know if anything is planned/has been done with all those
    hours of extra 'Dune' footage?  A mini-series would be nice...
    
    Scott
    
    
    

Has Cocoon been mentioned already, also like Close encounters a bit soft. But
everytime I see it, it still gives me a good feeling.

RE             <<< Note 416.54 by YUPPY::SECURITY "Security @LDO" >>>

    
>    Does anyone know if anything is planned/has been done with all those
>    hours of extra 'Dune' footage?  A mini-series would be nice...
    
  No doubt it will be recycled     :*|}

  George

    RE. .52 >
Anyone remember an old '50's thing about these giant black crystals that grew
out of the ground, feeding on water, falling, crashing, crushing towns, and
regrowing as they moved along?  
    
    One of the less successful efforts of Universal and director Jack
    Arnold (together responsible for, among others, "Creature from the
    Black Lagoon", "Tarantula", "Incredible Shrinking Man").  This one was
    entitled "The Monolith Monsters" (1957?) - the towering rocks falling
    on people just didn't seem to have the personality of even the ever- 
    popular giant spiders of the day.  
    
    Ron D.

I think I would agree about the Abyss. When I saw the 1st release, the ending
seemed tacked on, unrelated, and deliberately "feel good". When they  recently
released the "Director's Cut" (a term which is becoming a bit overused of late),
I thought it really added a lot of coherence to the film, improving it quite
a bit. A good example of improvement by addition, as opposed to Bladerunner,
where the Director's Cut is an example ofdramatic improvement by subtraction.

-Bruce

    I thought the Abyss was a great suspense movie, and a fair to middlin'
    science fiction movie.  It would have been better had it concentrated
    on one or the other (yes, I DO know that much of the alien subplot was
    edited out, but I thought its greatest strength lie in the whole plight
    of the underwater drilling platform anyway, not the aliens.)  I think,
    for a largely no-name cast, they did great.
    
    Cheers,
    
    kim

    Is there any really good reason why they didn't do this Special Edition
    of Abyss on video, rather than only on laserdisk?
    
    Michael
    

> Is there any really good reason why they didn't do this Special Edition
> of Abyss on video, rather than only on laserdisk?

It's probably for the same reason as most decisions... money. I would assume
that they just didn't think there would be enough of a market in the VHS
realm to make it worth their while.

alan

    re .60 The reason special editions come out on lasor disk is audience.
    Lasor disk owner are suppose to care about what film are intended to 
    look like and don't seem to mind paying a little extra for the
    privilege. An average lasor disk player run about 500 dollars and disk
    run about from 25 - 60 dollars and almost every movie released is
    released in letterbox as well as non-letterboxed. Special editions
    run about 100 dollars per movie. Lasor disks, once mastered, are
    cheaper to make in even small numbers than video. So a special edition of 
    a lasor disk costs less  to produce but costs more to buy and more people 
    will buy it than would a video.  So like the previous note said it money.
                               Jeff Peters  

Is this the approach they're likely to take with the Special version of
Terminator 2? (the one with the missing "chip" scene, alternate ending, etc)

    
    One of my Bud's has the 'WideScreen' version of the Abyss, and he said
    that it had some extra footage on it.
    
    Iain...

    
	>One of my Bud's has the 'WideScreen' version of the Abyss, and he said
	>that it had some extra footage on it.

	Now that's WIDE....8^)}...

    
    Was "When Worlds Collide" originally a widescreen release? It
    was released in '51. I watched it on disc last night and some
    scenes looked like they might be "cropped".
    
    By the way, I really like this movie. Sure it has bad acting and
    stilted dialogue, but it's still a fun movie.
    
    
    Tom
    ---
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    Re: .66
    
    Was that the film where they build the 'space arc' and have all that
    footage of cities being drowned?
    
    

    Re .67: Yep. It's also the one where the spaceship takes off at the
    last possible moment, *as* the newly-arrived star (yes, it's supposed
    to be a star, "10 or 12 times the size of the Earth!!!") smashes Earth
    into atoms. [Hollywood is notoriously fond of permitting their main
    characters to go about business as usual on the very brink of cosmic
    disasters; "Crack in the World" is another juicy example, where a
    couple of folks are standing within about twenty feet of the spot where
    a moon-sized chunk of the earth breaks loose and explodes into space -
    and they're still standing after it happens. Yeah, right. ;-)]
    
    -b

    >"Crack in the World" is another juicy example, where a
    >couple of folks are standing within about twenty feet of the spot where
    >a moon-sized chunk of the earth breaks loose and explodes into space -
    >and they're still standing after it happens. Yeah, right. ;-)]
    
    	Aw, c'mon - where's your willing suspension of disbelief?? ;-)
    
    					- Jim

    I actually thought Crack In The Earth was a pretty cool movie....I
    still enjoy it even though I'm somewhat bored a bit easier by that type
    of movie...
    
    Michael

    >"Crack in the World" is another juicy example, where a
    >couple of folks are standing within about twenty feet of the spot where
    >a moon-sized chunk of the earth breaks loose and explodes into space -
    >and they're still standing after it happens. Yeah, right. ;-)]
    
	To be a little pedantic, on my last viewing of the film I looked
	out for exactly this point. I think you'll find that they start
	running from the underground base labs (which are not actually
	ON the fault line but definitely near enough to be in line for
	destruction). They then use jeep and foot to make their way to
	the perimeter fence and past before the "liftoff". That puts
	them possibly a couple of miles in my book...

	(Actually I enjoyed the movie too...8^)}...)

	Meanwhile, back to the in-flight movie...

    Re .71: Oh, all right. I'll give 'em an "incomplete". ;-)
    
    I enjoyed both "Crack in the World" and "War of the Worlds," though
    whether it was because of or in spite of some of the bungee-jumping
    disbelief required, I'm not sure I could say. (Those who hate it when
    people quibble about things like this ("If you don't like it, why do
    you watch it," or - my <least> favorite - "Lighten up, it's only a
    movie") don't seem to understand that quibbling about such things is
    one of the fun parts...)
    
    But, now and then, it's nice to see a science-fiction movie that pays
    a _little_ more attention to the science. [Quick. Name two.]
    
    -b

    We interrupt your noting pleasure for a useless nit and a potential
    rathole :-)
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              -< Klaatu barada.. barada... what was that again?? >-
    
    	NO, No - it was
    
    	Klaatu.... verata... ni... uh oh.  Ni...  Damn!  It was definitely
    an 'N' word . . . :-)
    
    

    
    
    Klaatu verata nikto?
    
    
    Jodi-

    
    Klaatu...  Verata...  Nictu!
    
    	( from the comic book ;-) )

>    
>    Klaatu verata nikto?
>

I believe .73 was using some dialog out the movie Army Of Darkness.  The phrase
was supposed to allow one to safely pick up / retrieve the dastardly evil
Necronomicon (sp?) book.  The "hero" forgot the entire line he was supposed to
say :-).
    
-Joe

	> I believe .73 was using some dialog out the movie Army Of Darkness.

	Well spotted...8^)}...

    
    
    	Did anyone mention "Fantastic Voyage" where a team of scientists
    	is miniaturized and injected into the blood stream of a general
    	who suffered a stroke in order to clear up the blockage in the
    	brain ?.
    

    
    
	> Did anyone mention "Fantastic Voyage" where a team of scientists
	> is miniaturized and injected into the blood stream of a general
	> who suffered a stroke in order to clear up the blockage in the
	> brain ?.
    
	No, they didn't...8^)}

		(But the effects were excellent... and I had a thing for
		Raquel Welch back then... as did lots of us...8^)}...)

	There was a sequel written but I don't think anyone took it up.

	While I'm here, can I mention "Outland" with the shorn canary??

	High Noon in Space.

	And can I NOT mention "Saturn 5" where the best acting was by
	the robot...

    There was a sequel BOOK to Fantastic Voyage called (I think),
    Fantastic Voyage II - Project : BRAIN
    
    
    Michael
    

    re: .78
    
    It wasn't a stroke. I believe he was a defecting scientist and was
    injured in a recapture/assasination attempt by the "other side". 

        Re. .73 thru .77
      
      I believe this was not only from Army Of Darkness.It was also the
    phrase used to activate the robot Gort in The Day The Earth Stood
    Still.It must have been borrowed by A.O.D. just to give trivia fans
    a reason to mention this movie.
                                   Dave
    
    

    I always thought it was "Klatu barada nikto", but who knows exactly how
    to spell a nonsense phrase without a script. It's definitely a phrase
    from "The Day The Earth Stood Still". Rather than activating Gort,
    Patricia O'Neill's character says it to stop Gort from going on a
    rampage and destroying the world. That reference made his forgetting
    it twice as funny for me.

    
    I always thought it was instructing Gort to go get Klatu from the
    hospital and return him to his flying saucer for treatment
    
    And I always thought it was "Klatu Ferada Nikto" but I could be wrong
    (there's a first time for eveything...:^)
    
    
    Ian

    "Klaatu borada Nikto"

    Enough, already! There are whole topics in FOO::TRIVIA dedicated to the
    proper spelling and pronunciation of that phrase! [And take care: if
    you ever get it exactly right, a very large robot will show up and
    demand to see Klaatu - and woe betide the one who can't produce him!
    ;-)]
    
    Random question: are there any other science fiction movies that have
    presented an alien-language phrase that's been quoted, parodied, and/or
    mangled anywhere near as often as this one? 
    
    -b

>    Random question: are there any other science fiction movies that have
>    presented an alien-language phrase that's been quoted, parodied, and/or
>    mangled anywhere near as often as this one? 
 
    Well, from the M-n-M tv series :
    
    	Nano - Nano
    	Shazz-butt!

re:.87  Does the 'tune' from Close Encounters count?  I think that one has
certainly found its way into our culture. 

	/jeff 

In an e-mail exchange I had with Beth Rust (former Digital employee and
MOVIES host and moderator), she happened to mention:

	Date:	28-SEP-1995 19:18:44.25
	From:	US2RMC::"[email protected]" "Elizabeth Rust"
	To:	Nina Eppes <humor::eppes>

	[Side note: I had posted a note to MOVIES
	lo these many moons ago about a movie I was trying to track
	down; all I remembered was one scene in which the mad doctor's
	madder wife ripped some bandages loose from her face to reveal
	a pretty nasty-looking skeletal face-with-eyeballs. I don't
	recall if I got any suggestions, but I finally found a reference:
	it's "She Demons", an otherwise forgettable 50's monster movie.
	Anyhow, if the topic's still there, somebody might be amused
	to know what it was...]

	-b

The note she refers to is reply .47 in this string.

Just fyi! :-)

-- Nina

    One of Beth's most persistent Notes personal names was 
    "Gory Details."  I see that some things haven't changed.

>    One of Beth's most persistent Notes personal names was 
>    "Gory Details."  I see that some things haven't changed.

Apparently not! :-)

-- Nina

    BTW, if anyone happens to have a copy tucked away somewhere of Beth
    Rust's classic review of "Kaltiki, Fungus of Terror" (or something like 
    that), which was lost when the old incarnation of Movies died, please
    post it here.
    
    Thanks,
    
    - Dave

    
    
    What about the 1950's "She-Creature" & "The Astounding She-Monster"
    
    Where can those be rented? I know where to buy them.
    
    thanks, BR

>     What about the 1950's "She-Creature" & "The Astounding She-Monster"
>     Where can those be rented? I know where to buy them.

	Where else, call your local video stores!
	(ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer :-)

ps: you might also try calling your local library

    What?? No vote for "Spaceballs"??? ;^)
    
    THAT movie takes shots at just about *everyone*!
    
    					--Eric--

    
    re:95  I know where to buy them, and the video stores  use don't
    have them to rent, also, I doubt if a "library" would carry them.
    thanks anyway!
    
    
    
    
    Bob  

    
    	Ragu, you'll just have to keep checking with video stores when-
    	ever you get a chance.  The best you could possibly do is to
    	get a Blockbuster [or a large, similar chain] to do some search-
    	ing for you at other Blockbuster outlets to see if 1 of them
    	stocks that particular release.  And maybe they could obtain it
    	for you, possibly for a small handling fee.
    
    	But don't underestimate the libraries, either.  They have many,
    	many storage media connections, and for a small fee, they too
    	can obtain some oddball stuff.
    

>     re:95  I know where to buy them, and the video stores   use don't
                                                            ^
>     have them to rent, also, I doubt if a "library" would carry them.

	I assume you want an "I" where the ^ is pointing?  If so, then
	the whole point is to "call around" to other video stores.  Let
	your fingers do the walking and use the yellow pages.

	Where else did you think you could "rent" videos???

     You might try the Fabulous Fiction Book Store In Worcester Ma.
It's on Main St.  They have a big selection of Si-Fi books and I believe they
rent tapes also.

			Good Luck

				Steve