| Title: | Movie Reviews and Discussion |
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| Created: | Thu Jan 28 1993 |
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Some years back, "Millennium" got many votes from MOVIES noters as the
worst movie of all time. Despite this (!), I didn't get around to
seeing it until last night, when it showed up on Fox. And for the first
twenty minutes or so, I was thinking, "Gee, this isn't bad at all;
what's all the fuss about?"
Then the "seduction to save the world" sequences started, and I
understood.
Still, I enjoyed the future-time scenes; yes, the robot was a bit too
precious, and the time-jumper personnel were way too glossy and stylish
compared to everybody else (the justification about them getting the
best food and medicine didn't explain how they got lip gloss and
mascara - I'm not counting their stewardess costumes, just their
"natural" look, which must have also required a lot of mousse), but
having accepted a certain level of simplicity, I got a kick out of
the disintegrating council members, the grimy-gritty matte-painted
future, and the futile-but-what-else-is-there-to-do-on-weekends premise
behind the time-travel activities.
But oh! those "love" scenes between Kristofferson and (Ladd?)! Not
awkward enough to make her believable as a battle-scarred time-jumper
trying to be sexy for the first time, not funny at all, not remotely
erotic - *and* nearly every scene between the two of them got aired
twice, though even the most dimwitted audience member must have figured
out as much of the time-travel theory as they were going to by the
first repeat. [*I* think it was an excuse to "pad the film," as sung so
tenderly by Joel and the 'bots - oh, if they could only get their hands
on "Millennium"!]
Anyway, I found this part so unredeemingly dull that I switched
channels and caught several memorable segments of "Shriek of the
Mutilated," a charmingly amateurish flick about a cannibal cult
pretending to be Bigfoot, with the sillier romping-around-in-the-
woods scenes accompanied by some classical scores that added a
delightful degree of mock import.
I highly recommend the combination - but if you have to see
"Millennium" all by itself, get a tape and fast-forward through any
bits with just Kristofferson and Ladd on the screen. Any time-traveller
would do the same.
-b
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| 306.1 | Book is better.... | DECWET::HAYNES | Tue Aug 24 1993 12:53 | 6 | |
Ever read the book? Not only was the movie moderatly bad, but it took
out so much that was relevant in the book that it just made me shake my
head and wonder about the judgement of whoever makes the editing
decisions......
MBH
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| 306.2 | DSSDEV::RUST | Tue Aug 24 1993 12:59 | 9 | ||
I read the short story that both book and movie were based on, but it
was so long ago that I didn't remember enough details to generate lots
of book-vs-movie criticism. Heck, there was plenty to go on with the
film alone! [By the by, I did like Travanti's obsessed-professor
character. The whole lost-artifacts subplot could make a dandy
modern-day "Call of Cthulhu" scenario... "The Twonky from Out of
Space-Time", eh?]
-b
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| 306.3 | REGENT::POWERS | Wed Aug 25 1993 09:06 | 15 | ||
The opening credits note that John Varley wrote the screenplay from his own short story, "Air Raid." I'm guessing that the novel came later. I read only the novel, a mediocre book that stifles some interesting ideas under a clutter of other plot devices. "Temporal censorship" is a good example. You can only look at or vist any one point in time once, ever. If you can't look at something now, maybe you will be able to later. The ending of the book rationalizes this concept better than the movie does. I suspect one factor that makes this movie so bad is its attempt to move Cheryl Ladd out of her typecasting as a sweet young thing. Think of Joan Jett in that role (if you prefer to cast to type instead of away from it). - tom] | |||||
| 306.4 | Short story was best | 36905::BUCHMAN | Just say NOtes! | Fri Aug 27 1993 13:53 | 34 |
This was another example of a very good short story which should have
been left as one. Varley's story "Air Raid" was fast-paced, gritty, and
had a great impact. Unfortunately, he decided to stretch it into a
full-length novel; not sure whether the movie came before or after the
book, but it was a still more watered-down version of the book.
One side benefit of Millenium was that it gave John Varley exposure to
the movie industry. He then took those themes, and worked them quite
nicely into the book "Demon", third of his wonderful "Titan" trilogy.
A few years ago, I was flying on a DC-9 a few rows in front of an
off-duty pilot, and noticed he was reading "Millenium". Considering
that the book's plot revolves around major air crashes, I couldn't help
but feel a bit unsettled!
Mild spoilers:
There was a lot going on in the book that did not come out in the
movie. For instance, the raiders from the future were so used to high
air pollution levels that they would smoke three or four cigarrettes
simultaneously when they visited the 20th century. Also, the reason why
they raided the present for people was that the leprosy-like condition
that afflicted virtually all of their population was the result of a
particularly nasty form of biological warfare some generations past, in
which the diseases bonded with the DNA and were passed to subsequent
generations.
To be fair, the movie did an okay job of trying to portray what was in
the book, and stayed pretty faithful to its plot. Still, most of the
impact could be found in "Air Raid". In extending it to a book, the
drama was stretched thin, and Varley watered down some of the tragedy
of the story by choosing to spare his heroine. Also, some pretty
literal deus ex machina was introduced in the book's ending, that we
could have done without.
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| 306.5 | YUPPY::SECURITY | Security @LDO | Tue Feb 15 1994 09:45 | 5 | |
I thought it was a good looking plane crash right at the start.
Would've made an interesting in-flight movie during its release...
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