Title: | Movie Reviews and Discussion |
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Moderator: | VAXCPU::michaud o.dec.com::tamara::eppes |
Created: | Thu Jan 28 1993 |
Last Modified: | Thu Jun 05 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 1249 |
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Some years back, "Millennium" got many votes from MOVIES noters as the worst movie of all time. Despite this (!), I didn't get around to seeing it until last night, when it showed up on Fox. And for the first twenty minutes or so, I was thinking, "Gee, this isn't bad at all; what's all the fuss about?" Then the "seduction to save the world" sequences started, and I understood. Still, I enjoyed the future-time scenes; yes, the robot was a bit too precious, and the time-jumper personnel were way too glossy and stylish compared to everybody else (the justification about them getting the best food and medicine didn't explain how they got lip gloss and mascara - I'm not counting their stewardess costumes, just their "natural" look, which must have also required a lot of mousse), but having accepted a certain level of simplicity, I got a kick out of the disintegrating council members, the grimy-gritty matte-painted future, and the futile-but-what-else-is-there-to-do-on-weekends premise behind the time-travel activities. But oh! those "love" scenes between Kristofferson and (Ladd?)! Not awkward enough to make her believable as a battle-scarred time-jumper trying to be sexy for the first time, not funny at all, not remotely erotic - *and* nearly every scene between the two of them got aired twice, though even the most dimwitted audience member must have figured out as much of the time-travel theory as they were going to by the first repeat. [*I* think it was an excuse to "pad the film," as sung so tenderly by Joel and the 'bots - oh, if they could only get their hands on "Millennium"!] Anyway, I found this part so unredeemingly dull that I switched channels and caught several memorable segments of "Shriek of the Mutilated," a charmingly amateurish flick about a cannibal cult pretending to be Bigfoot, with the sillier romping-around-in-the- woods scenes accompanied by some classical scores that added a delightful degree of mock import. I highly recommend the combination - but if you have to see "Millennium" all by itself, get a tape and fast-forward through any bits with just Kristofferson and Ladd on the screen. Any time-traveller would do the same. -b
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306.1 | Book is better.... | DECWET::HAYNES | Tue Aug 24 1993 13:53 | 6 | |
Ever read the book? Not only was the movie moderatly bad, but it took out so much that was relevant in the book that it just made me shake my head and wonder about the judgement of whoever makes the editing decisions...... MBH | |||||
306.2 | DSSDEV::RUST | Tue Aug 24 1993 13:59 | 9 | ||
I read the short story that both book and movie were based on, but it was so long ago that I didn't remember enough details to generate lots of book-vs-movie criticism. Heck, there was plenty to go on with the film alone! [By the by, I did like Travanti's obsessed-professor character. The whole lost-artifacts subplot could make a dandy modern-day "Call of Cthulhu" scenario... "The Twonky from Out of Space-Time", eh?] -b | |||||
306.3 | REGENT::POWERS | Wed Aug 25 1993 10:06 | 15 | ||
The opening credits note that John Varley wrote the screenplay from his own short story, "Air Raid." I'm guessing that the novel came later. I read only the novel, a mediocre book that stifles some interesting ideas under a clutter of other plot devices. "Temporal censorship" is a good example. You can only look at or vist any one point in time once, ever. If you can't look at something now, maybe you will be able to later. The ending of the book rationalizes this concept better than the movie does. I suspect one factor that makes this movie so bad is its attempt to move Cheryl Ladd out of her typecasting as a sweet young thing. Think of Joan Jett in that role (if you prefer to cast to type instead of away from it). - tom] | |||||
306.4 | Short story was best | 36905::BUCHMAN | Just say NOtes! | Fri Aug 27 1993 14:53 | 34 |
This was another example of a very good short story which should have been left as one. Varley's story "Air Raid" was fast-paced, gritty, and had a great impact. Unfortunately, he decided to stretch it into a full-length novel; not sure whether the movie came before or after the book, but it was a still more watered-down version of the book. One side benefit of Millenium was that it gave John Varley exposure to the movie industry. He then took those themes, and worked them quite nicely into the book "Demon", third of his wonderful "Titan" trilogy. A few years ago, I was flying on a DC-9 a few rows in front of an off-duty pilot, and noticed he was reading "Millenium". Considering that the book's plot revolves around major air crashes, I couldn't help but feel a bit unsettled! Mild spoilers: There was a lot going on in the book that did not come out in the movie. For instance, the raiders from the future were so used to high air pollution levels that they would smoke three or four cigarrettes simultaneously when they visited the 20th century. Also, the reason why they raided the present for people was that the leprosy-like condition that afflicted virtually all of their population was the result of a particularly nasty form of biological warfare some generations past, in which the diseases bonded with the DNA and were passed to subsequent generations. To be fair, the movie did an okay job of trying to portray what was in the book, and stayed pretty faithful to its plot. Still, most of the impact could be found in "Air Raid". In extending it to a book, the drama was stretched thin, and Varley watered down some of the tragedy of the story by choosing to spare his heroine. Also, some pretty literal deus ex machina was introduced in the book's ending, that we could have done without. | |||||
306.5 | YUPPY::SECURITY | Security @LDO | Tue Feb 15 1994 09:45 | 5 | |
I thought it was a good looking plane crash right at the start. Would've made an interesting in-flight movie during its release... |