Conference bookie::movies

Before anyone asks...

Hangman's House (1928)
Salute (1929)
Big Trail, The (1930)
Men Without Women (1930)
Range Feud (1931)
Three Girls Lost (1931)
Haunted Gold (1932)
Hurricane Express (1932)
Texas Cyclone (1932)
Two-Fisted Law (1932)
Baby Face (1933)
Central Airport (1933)
Life of Jimmy Dolan, The (1933)
Lucky Texan (1933)
Riders of Destiny (1933)
Sagebrush Trail (1933)
West of the Divide (1933)
'neath Arizona Skies (1934)
Blue Steel (1934)
Man from Utah, The (1934)
Randy Rides Alone (1934)
Star Packer, The (1934)
Trail Beyond, The (1934)
Dawn Rider, The (1935)
Desert Trail (1935)
Lawless Frontier (1935)
Lawless Range (1935)
Paradise Canyon (1935)
Texas Terror (1935)
Sea Spoilers (1936)
Winds of the Wasteland (1936)
California Straight Ahead (1937)
Hell Town (1937)
I Cover the War (1937)
Overland Stage Raiders (1938)
Pals of the Saddle (1938)
Santa Fe Stampede (1938)
Allegheny Uprising (1939)
Frontier Horizon (1939)
New Frontier, The (1939)
Night Riders, The (1939)
Stagecoach (1939)
Dark Command (1940)
Long Voyage Home, The (1940)
Seven Sinners (1940)
Texas Terrors (1940)
Three Faces West (1940)
Lady for a Night (1941)
Lady from Louisiana (1941)
Man Betrayed, A (1941)
Shepherd of the Hills, The (1941)
Flying Tigers (1942)
In Old California (1942)
Pittsburgh (1942)
Reap the Wild Wind (1942)
Reunion in France (1942)
Spoilers, The (1942)
Lady Takes a Chance, A (1943)
War of the Wildcats (1943)
Fighting Seabees, The (1944)
Tall in the Saddle (1944)
Back to Bataan (1945)
Dakota (1945)
Flame of the Barbary Coast (1945)
They Were Expendable (1945)
Without Reservations (1946)
Angel and the Badman (1947)
Tycoon (1947)
3 Godfathers (1948)
Fort Apache (1948)
Red River (1948)
Wake of the Red Witch (1948)
Fighting Kentuckian, The (1949)
Sands of Iwo Jima (1949) (AAN)
She Wore a Yellow Ribbon (1949)
Rio Grande (1950)
Shadow of the Eagle (1950)
Flying Leathernecks (1951)
Operation Pacific (1951)
Big Jim McLain (1952)
Quiet Man, The (1952)
Hondo (1953)
Island in the Sky (1953)
Trouble Along the Way (1953)
USSR Today (1953)
High and the Mighty, The (1954)
Blood Alley (1955)
Sea Chase, The (1955)
Conqueror, The (1956)
Searchers, The (1956)
Jet Pilot (1957)
Legend of the Lost (1957)
Wings of Eagles, The (1957)
Barbarian and the Geisha, The (1958)
I Married a Woman (1958)
Horse Soldiers, The (1959)
Rio Bravo (1959)
Alamo, The (1960) (d)
Alamo, The (1960)
North to Alaska (1960)
Comancheros, The (1961)
Hatari! (1962)
How the West Was Won (1962)
Longest Day, The (1962)
Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, The (1962)
Donovan's Reef (1963)
McLintock! (1963)
Circus World (1964)
Greatest Story Ever Told, The (1965)
In Harm's Way (1965)
Sons of Katie Elder, The (1965)
Cast a Giant Shadow (1966)
El Dorado (1967)
War Wagon, The (1967)
Green Berets, The (1968) (d)
Green Berets, The (1968)
Hellfighters (1969)
True Grit (1969) (AA) (GG)
Undefeated, The (1969)
Chisum (1970)
Rio Lobo (1970)
Big Jake (1971)
Cowboys, The (1972)
Cahill - U.S. Marshal (1973)
Train Robbers, The (1973)
McQ (1974)
Brannigan (1975)
Rooster Cogburn (1975)
Shootist, The (1976)
Cool Change (1986)

I enjoy Wayne (Marion Michael Morrison) too, only a few of his later and
early films are so bad that his presence doesn't save them. He was for the
most part a "natural" actor which is not to say that he wasn't acting at
all, as some people would have it. But he seldom streatched himself at all,
playing pretty much the same character. Ford and Hawks seemed to be able to
draw out his best performances. Certainly his best two performances are
Hawk's _Red River_ and Ford's magnificent _The Searchers_. These two characters
were very similar, neurotic and seeking revenge. _Red River_ is an excellent
film but _The Searchers_ is possibly among the ten greatest American films.
And Wayne's character is more nuanced and complex.

Other films in which Wayne gave a better than average perfomance could include:

Fort Apache
She Wore a Yellow Ribbon
The Quiet Man
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
True Grit
The Shootist
They Were Expendable


Randy

    Fort Apache was pretty good, although I would think that the print the
    video was made from was pretty old. Made in B/W, it was rather murky in
    spots.
    
    My weekend was spent watching movies of heroic people charging en masse
    into what seemed to be certain death (it was that kind of a Saturday, I
    guess :), and Fort Apache was no exception.  For those not in the know,
    the film concerns a lonely cavalry outpost in the American Southwest
    whose duty seems to be chasing Cochise and assembled bands of Apaches. 
    (For those who think old Westerns did little more than protray Indians
    as savages, this film gave the Apaches more than a fair shake.  They
    were protrayed quite sympathetically and one didn't really fault them
    for creating trouble at all).   Anyway, into this lonely outpost comes
    Henry Fonda, who, as soon as he spoke, you *knew* was just going to be
    trouble.  A Civil War veteran, he feels quite slighted by his being
    appointed to command the fort, and is determined to quickly make a name
    for himself so he can go onto bigger and better things.  All this is
    told to his daughter, pretty, grown up Shirley Temple who (to my
    amusement) was christened one Philadelphia Thursday.  (You do have to
    admit, it's unique.  The character later states that she was born in
    Pomfret, CT, a small, mostly farming community that sits next to my
    nondescript town, and certainly one that you wouldn't think any
    scriptwriter would think to mention).  Philadelphia is quite striken
    with a young Lt. who is also being sent to the post, having recently
    graduated from West Point.  The Lt.'s family is stationed at this post,
    and he is welcomed with great fuss and happiness.  
    
    Not so Colonel Thursday.   
    
    Right off, the Col. manages to annoy all the other officers, including
    John Wayne's character (whose name I forget, alas).  The rest of the
    movie is spent on showing how Colonel Thursday is building up to do
    something really stupid, all for the sake of glory, and against the
    advice of John Wayne (who, once again, is a really swell guy and
    doesn't get to have any romantic involvement whatsoever.) Subplots
    include the love story betwixt Philadelphia and the Young Lt.
    Whatshisname--we just knew Colonel Thursday isn't going to approve.
    
    Fort Apache, according to my video guidebook, was the first of John
    Ford's Cavalry "Trilogy".  A couple of the others were mentioned a
    note or two back (She Wore a Yellow Ribbon was one).  
    
    Had the print been less murky, I think I would have enjoyed this a lot
    better, but as it stood, I liked it a lot anyway.  It was fun seeing
    Henry Fonda play, well, a pompous jerk, and funner still to see Shirley
    Temple *not* at age five.  Definitely a ***.5 out of ****.
                                                    
    
    kim  

Ford's "calvary trio" are _Fort Apache_, _She Wore A Yellow Ribbon_, and
_Rio Grande_. The first two are the superior films, he made _Rio Grande_
in order to make _The Quiet Man_. Ford had been wanting to make _The Quiet
Man_ for ten years but, incredibly, couldn't get a studio to back it. Finally
Republic agreed to do so but only if Ford made a western for them first,
that was _Rio Grande_. Ironically it was _The Quiet Man_ which became probably
the best film Republic ever produced.


Randy 

    	A little bit off the subject, but I find it quite interesting that
    Wayne is so well liked by so many people. I am generally quite
    indifferent to his films myself, but as a person the man was quite
    frankly a bigot and a jerk.

Rathole that says something about the man.

Allegedly ... (popular phrase these days)
when filming his cameo role as the centurian in "The Greatest Story Ever Told"
his part called for him to look up at Christ crucified and speak his line:

	"Truly this is the son of God"

After a run-through the director is supposed to have asked John to say it with
awe. John came up with the goods:

	"Aw, truly this is the son of God"

T.

RE:  <<< Note 283.5 by 3297::SAPP "Quest to you...and on to infinity..." >>>

>>    	A little bit off the subject, but I find it quite interesting that
>>    Wayne is so well liked by so many people. I am generally quite
>>    indifferent to his films myself, but as a person the man was quite
>>    frankly a bigot and a jerk.

     Most of the racially hostile statements made by Wayne were not widely 
published, so most people today are not aware of this part of his persona.
In order to remain a hero, you have to make sure you didn't leave too much
evidence behind.

                                    Greg

    I find myself liking *many* people who are not pristine of character,
    being not pristine of character myself, and knowing of so few people
    who are.
    
    kim

    
    >I find myself liking *many* people who are not pristine of character,
    >being not pristine of character myself, and knowing of so few people
    >who are.
    
     It is not a matter of being a perfect human being, Kim. However seeing
    this man regarded as a *hero* when he was a racist? That's pushing it
    for me.... 

    re .9, personally, I have, for years, considered John Wayne to be the
    most repulsive actor of all time.  I couldn't stand the type of
    character he played in movies, and I couldn't stand his right wing
    politics in real life.  I would have to be paid to ever sit through
    another one of his movies, since it would really make me want to puke.
    
    I hate the way his characters and movies glorified violence, and I
    hated the, IMO, misplaced sense of patriotism he made such a big deal
    about in real life.
    
    Lorna
    

  I kind of liked John Wayne and Jane Fonda. They remind me of my favorite
baseball player, Ricky Henderson. I kind of admire anyone who can get that many
people bent so far out of shape with so little effort.

  Anyone who saw John Wayne on Rowen and Martin's Laughin should realize that
there was a certain amount of tongue and cheek in his "radical" politics.

  I loved his bit on the Poetry corner where he came out with the flower in
his hand and recited:

    [in Texas twang]
    Roses are RED and violets are GREEN,
    If you Think you are TOUGH, go join the mar-RINES.

  After which he turned and walked through a wall.

  Keep in mind, he was an actor and much of what you saw was his image.

  George

    I am interested in John Wayne's Movies and have most of his videos
    except for Hondo is there anyone out there who knows if this video
    exist and how I might be able to get hold of it.  It needs to be VHF
    not American format.  Look forward to your reply.
    
    Regards,
    
    Angie Hill @ucg
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    

    
    What is VHF? For video (that is TV) systems I've heard of PAL (UK et
    al), NTSC (US,Japan), and SECAM (other parts), I don't know VHF
    other than the opposite of UHF, which have nothing to do with video.
    
    
    Marilyn

    
    i think it's VHS which overcame rival BETAMAX here in the uk, not VHF
    
    giles
    
    

    I would like to know if you have got Hondo or Warwagon Video or if you
    know of anywhere I may be able to get hold of this, don't worry about
    the formatt.
    
    Angie. 
    
    
    

    
    And now for a commercial:  ;^)
    
    For those on the WWW, I've created a JOHN WAYNE Home Page.  It's just
    started and there's not too much (some pics, his filmography, a link to
    the Cardiff database where you can access all of his films...).
    
    If you're interested, and on the WEB, you can get it at:
    
    http://sezwho.mso.dec.com/html/duke.htm
    
    Also, for some great actor/actress GIF's, try:
    
    http://sezwho.mso.dec.com/html/PEOPLE.HTM
    
    Galv

    Anybody ever seen "The High and the Mighty" available on videotape?
    
    This is one I'd really like to see again.