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Title:Movie Reviews and Discussion
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Created:Thu Jan 28 1993
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1249
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233.0. "The Lover" by 12368::michaud (Jeff Michaud, DECnet/OSI) Fri Jun 25 1993 17:29

	Rented this one because it had gotton an Oscar nomination
	(for Best Cinematography), I didn't really know what
	to except.

	The story is about a young (18yo) french girl who with
	her mother and two brothers lives in Vietnam in 1929.
	The girl goes to a boarding school in Saigon and meets
	a rich young (32yo) Chinese bachlor and they become
	lovers.

	This movie is rated R and deserves it for the very explicit
	sex scenes (Basic Instinct move over).

	The movie is narrated by a much older version of the
	young girl.  Not sure if it's based on a true story
	(the narrator claims to now be a writter).

	Not sure how to rate this so I won't try.  If I had to
	catgorize it I'd probably have to put it in the "artsie"
	catagory.
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233.1The Lover36241::TARDUGNOFri Jul 09 1993 13:1416
    I rented The Lover  (right after renting Body of Evidence!)   
    I didn't know what to expect either.  I liked it but for the fact
    that the young girl  really didn't show any feelings for the
    Chinese man, and on two occasions TOLD him she had none for him
    in the movie..  She was very unaware how this whole intense
    affair would effect her until she left on the boat...
    The ending was rather sentimental....The Chinese  man wrote her
    after many years and told her he would love her til his death.
    Maybe I was waiting for her to return his affection in the movie
    but she was  sooo removed from any feeling she acted as an "observer"
    to things that were happening to her...Very much detached 
    
    What did YOU get out of this film??? I'm curious to hear another 
    opinion...              
    
     
233.212368::michaudJeff Michaud, DECnet/OSIFri Jul 09 1993 14:0611
> I liked it but for the fact
> that the young girl really didn't show any feelings for the
> Chinese man, and on two occasions TOLD him she had none for him in the movie..

	She told him that because she knew their relationship had
	no future (remember he was traditional Chinese and had to
	marry whom his father arranged) and didn't want him falling
	in love with her (not to mention she was no longer a virgin).

	FWIW, I have since read the video box and it says the movie
	is based on a true story.
233.3Author seems obsessed with the storyTLE::JBISHOPMon Jul 12 1993 11:257
    M(arguite?) Duras, the author, has written this same story twice*,
    and grew up in what was then French Indo-china.  It's very likely
    to be autobiographical to an extreme.
    
    		-John Bishop
    
    *Yes, two different novels by the same author about the same events.
233.4The Lover36241::TARDUGNOMon Jul 12 1993 16:4811
    Response to previous reply...He had already told her he loved her
    and she was no longer a virgin because of Him  so  there was nothing
    to gain by never telling him (or by telling him for that matter!)
    her true feelings, especially since
    he said more than once that he loved her  even though it had
    no future...I got the impression that she was denying her real
    feelings/reactions  in hopes of it not affecting her...then on the 
    boat she was overcome with the same feelings she had hoped to avoid.
     
    I got the feeling at the end that it WAS a true story.....was it?