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206.1 | No Demi Moore | 28218::PETERS | Be nice or be dog food | Thu Jun 03 1993 18:42 | 4 |
| Hal Hollbrook play the boss/recruiter. The police psychitrist from
Basic Instincts I think plays the wife. I have seen lots of movie ads but
no real information on the movie.
Jeff Peters
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206.2 | I love casting the movie roles for books I'm reading | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Boston Shootout - June 18,19,20! | Tue Jun 08 1993 12:40 | 13 |
| I am reading this right now and can't put it down. It's a quick read,
so at least I'm not up 'til 3 or 4 in the morning! Started it Sunday,
I'm on p271 now (out of 501).
If you don't like lawyers, this is your book!
I'm also very interested in the casting. I don't see Demi Moore as
the wife though - not statuesque enough!! What's the name of that new
young supermodel - Niki Taylor? She could be the wife!
I see Bob Hoskins as DeVasher, and Loni Anderson as Tammy.
NAZZ
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206.3 | | 12035::MDNITE::RIVERS | Hey! Get away from dat thing! | Tue Jun 08 1993 14:16 | 5 |
| The woman playing the wife is Jeanne Tripplehorn (as mentioned before,
the psychologist in "Basic Instinct").
kim
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206.4 | More on roles | 16913::MILLS_MA | To Thine own self be True | Tue Jun 08 1993 16:23 | 24 |
| Re. -1 and others,
I'm not quite sure, since I only saw herin the one film, but won't
Jeanne Tripplehorn look too old for Tom Cruise? She looked OK with
Michael Douglas, and he's YEARS older than Tom who looks too young for
his own age, anyway. Also, the wife is supposed to be drop dead
gourgeous and Jeanne isn't that good looking (IMHO).
In thinking about it, I think Gene Hackman might be cast as DeVasher.
I hop Loni Anderson isn't in it, her looks are right for the part, but
she can't act her way out of the proverbial paper bag.
This is the part I hate about movies made out of books you love, other
than Tom and maybe Gene, I probably won't like anyone they cast. Hal
Holbrook isn't my choice for Oliver, is that who he's playing? I keep
seeing Richard Dysart (I know, he'd be too identified with LA Law), or
maybe even Leslie Nielsen (how's that for breaking his typecasting?)
Oh well, I guess I'd better see the movie ........
Marilyn
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206.5 | Who's dropping dead? | 32198::KRUEGER | | Tue Jun 15 1993 12:05 | 11 |
| I read the book and didn't think the wife was "drop dead gorgeous" as
described; pretty, but not beautiful. I think Jeanne Tripplehorn is an
odd choice, too, but I don't think she looks younger than Tom Cruise.
I thought her role with Michael Douglas was mismatched because HE
looked so OLD! (Why DO they have him in all the sexually graphic
movies, anyway?? Ugh!)
I also thought the book was highly overrated and now I'm mad that I
ordered "The Client" from a book club ... oh, well.
Leslie
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206.6 | | 12035::MDNITE::RIVERS | Hey! Get away from dat thing! | Tue Jun 15 1993 12:27 | 5 |
| FWIW, A time to Kill, Grisham's first book, is much better than the
Firm (better written anyway and that's what counts).
kim
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206.7 | | VAXWRK::STHILAIRE | wandering spirit | Wed Jun 16 1993 12:12 | 9 |
| Jeanne Tripplehorn was just in a movie (The Night We Didn't Meet, or
something like that) where she played Matthew Broderick's girlfriend.
If she can play opposite Matthew Broderick with his babyface, she ought
to be able to play opposite Tom Cruise!
I think she looks young enough.
Lorna
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206.8 | Re wife's looks | 16913::MILLS_MA | To Thine own self be True | Wed Jun 16 1993 17:06 | 9 |
| Re .5
With regards to the wife being drop-dead gourgeous, there are several
scenes in the book, especially in restaurants, where Mitch is talking
(to himself) about how his wife (what WAS her name, Abby?) always turns
heads. To me, some one like that has to be d-d g.....
Marilyn
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206.9 | thanks for the confirmation | 16316::DDESMAISONS | | Thu Jun 17 1993 11:21 | 8 |
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>> FWIW, A time to Kill, Grisham's first book, is much better than the
>> Firm (better written anyway and that's what counts).
Interesting. I'm reading _The Firm_ now, and was with a couple
of my avid-reader friends last weekend, who said the same thing.
Have to check that one out next...
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206.10 | Nah | 32198::KRUEGER | | Fri Jun 18 1993 11:56 | 5 |
| re: -.8
I've seen lots of people who turned people's heads who weren't DDG!!!
I admit the book said she was very pretty, but not DDG.
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206.12 | Firm unbeliever | 16913::MILLS_MA | To Thine own self be True | Fri Jul 02 1993 13:53 | 61 |
|
Well, I saw it last nigh. I didn't like it for the most part. I think
if you haven't read the book, or if you read it long ago and didn't
retain any details, your chances of liking it are far more than those
who enjoyed and remember the book in great detail.
As I thought, Jeanne Triplehorn didn't look the way I thought she
should, they didn't even try to make her look pretty. She did a good
acting job, as did most of the people, but the story was changed too
much, and not for the better.
It was way too long, it really could've been cut about 30 minutes if
they hadn't changed the way the story goes, in my opinion they only
made it more convoluted and it required the extra time to make it work.
Some spoilers follow:
Spoilers:
I don't like the way they changed it so that Mitch ends up telling Abby
about the affair, I suppose that was a way of showing what a nice guy
he really was, then, after doing that, they had to have Avery come on
to Abby so that she would have a reason for going to the Cayman
Islands. In the book, I'm not sure how much they knew each other,
certainly not enough for him to know where she worked.
The brother bothered me, he was a good actor, but couldn't they find
someone who looked a *little* like Tom?
In the new Hollywood way, they also made the FBI look just as bad as
the "bad guys". They never intended to double-cross Mitch in the book.
Lastly, what a disappointment at the way they are able to close the
Firm. Overbilling?! In the book, even though it ran out of steam at the
end, Mitch and Abby end up running from everyone, but here they tie it
up so nicely, he gets the mob to realize they can't kill him, the FBI
gets what they want, and he is free to go be a lawyer somewhere else.
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206.13 | I went...I saw...I liked | 16821::POGAR | SLEEPLESS IN SEATTLE - THE CURE FOR INSOMNIACS | Fri Jul 02 1993 15:58 | 15 |
| I saw The Firm Wednesday last night, and I must say -- it was a
RIVETING 2 hours and 42 minutes. I didn't budge from my seat at all --
squirmed a little, but didn't budge. Very suspenseful and intense.
Since I rarely read fiction, and _never_ read a book before its movie,
I had nothing to compare it to/against.
I thought the three main performances -- Tom Cruise, Gene Hackman, and
Jeanne Tripplehorn -- were all Oscar-worthy. It's a definite must-see,
and a repeat-see for me. Gary Busey was perfectly cast as a private
investigator, and Holly Hunter as his secretary was also very good.
9.5/10
Catherine
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206.14 | | 7094::FISTER | Twenty minutes into the future | Sun Jul 04 1993 21:19 | 9 |
|
Not really a spoiler, but just in case...
Anyone notice that, as the Cruise character was printing computer
files out on a LaserWriter, one could distinctly hear a line printer?
Les
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206.15 | Despite my reservations, a B+ | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Take me for a little while | Thu Jul 08 1993 14:40 | 29 |
| Having completed the book less than a month before I saw the movie,
I closely watched for changes. There were parts of the movie that
were lifted verbatim from the book; there were other parts that were
dramatically changed. The two most severe changes were to the ending
and what happened with the copying of files in the Caymans. I'll put
my comments after the obligatory spoiler.
First, the good news: I actually liked the ending. The overbilling
bit was maybe somewhat hokey, but it worked for me, especially in
regard to how it got Mitch out from under the Mob's ... er, ... ah,
attention. ;-) I was thrilled to see one of my favorite actors, Paul
Sorvino, as one of the two guys from Chicago. They certainly did NOT
look like happy campers when they got off the plane in Memphis!!! I
roared out loud when I first saw their expressions!
Now the bad news: I hated Mitch telling his wife about the fling on
the beach, but I guess in the screenwriter's eyes it legitimized her
going to the Caymans to be with Tolar. To me that made absolutely no
sense! Tolar would NOT go to the school, she would not follow him to
do what she did. The book handled this whole scene much better.
Two minor nits: the coincidence of the wife and kids on Mud Island was
too much to be believed. I missed the Florida coast of the book.
Also, I never got the feeling for how much The Firm overworked Mitch,
which formed the basis for the entire story. They should have made
that more clear in the movie.
NAZZ
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206.16 | M-O-N-E-Y In The Firm | 3173::SLATER | Synchronicity - It's Everywhere! | Thu Jul 08 1993 16:15 | 24 |
|
When you go see the movie, "The Firm", listen for this song, M-O-N-E-Y.
It was on the "Pontiac" album that Lyle did back in 1987, but it got
dusted off and used in the soundtrack. Some of the lyrics are shown below:
"She's got emerald eyes.
She's got ruby lips.
She's got diamonds on her mind.
If you want that girl,
Son, what you need is
Some M
O
N
E
Y!"
By Lyle Lovett
Bill
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206.17 | books vs movies, again... | 16913::MEUSE_DA | | Thu Jul 08 1993 18:54 | 6 |
|
I didn't read the book, so I guess I'll enjoy the movie.
Dave
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206.18 | | 16564::NEWELL_JO | Don't wind your toys too tight | Thu Jul 08 1993 19:36 | 7 |
| I didn't read the book before I saw the movie. I really liked
it and felt I kept up with all the details. I just stared
reading the book last night and I think I'll enjoy that as well.
I loved Gene Hackman!
Jodi-
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206.19 | | 6179::VALENZA | Too sexy for my flip flops. | Mon Jul 12 1993 10:45 | 26 |
| I didn't read the book, and I did enjoy the movie. I thought the
thriller aspects of the film were okay, but I also liked the humor and
I especially liked the interplay and motivations of the various
characters.
Regarding some of the earlier comments in this topic:
1) What is all this talk about Jeanne Triplehorn not being attractive?
I personally have no complaints.
Spoiler for the rest:
2) Not having read the book, I wasn't startled by Mitch's decision
to tell his wife about his indiscretion. This was because it came
right after the blackmail attempt. It seemed to me that the motivation
for coming clean to his wife was because he felt that he had no choice
but to circumvent the blackmail threat. He was clearly desperate and
apparently felt that it was better to endanger his marriage now than to
be controlled indefinately by blackmail.
3) Although I didn't read the book, I did infer from the movie that he
was overworked by the firm. Maybe the movie didn't stress this point
as much as the book did, but I still got the point.
-- Mike
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206.20 | | 16564::NEWELL_JO | Don't wind your toys too tight | Mon Jul 12 1993 13:04 | 10 |
|
Thinking back on the movie, my only complaint was that I didn't
really have a clue who Kozinski and Hodge (the two associates
killed early in the film) were. So it was pretty hard to
understand Lamar's state of mind (the springkler and lawn chair
scene) when Mitch and Abbey came for dinner.
Jodi-
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206.21 | ramblings after 2 viewings | 11843::WOOLNER | Your dinner is in the supermarket | Mon Jul 12 1993 13:37 | 35 |
| Jodi, good point on Kozinski and Hodge. (I haven't read the book
either.)
My take on Jeanne Tripplehorn's looks: different in every scene, almost
distractingly so. I wouldn't call her unattractive, but depending on
lighting, angle, and hair style (and hair color was very inconsistent
throughout) she ran the gamut in the "attractive" range. IMHO.
Spoiler nits:
I've seen _The_Firm_ twice (2nd time cheerfully accompanying a friend
who hadn't seen it), and the first time, when Mitch makes his leap out
the window and lands on the cotton trailer, I said "Oh come ON.... how
conVENient." But on second viewing, the trailer was there every day in
the same alley (obviously serving the Cotton Building next door).
When Abby decides to leave him, they have their real fight in the
backyard, with Abby sitting in the swing. What makes them think the
backyard isn't bugged? It apparently *wasn't* bugged, in the movie,
but it seems to me that The Firm would've had every square inch of the
property wired.
The "Wong Brothers" Chinese restaurant seems like a book-only inside
joke. In the Cambridge apartment scene I didn't notice them talking
about it... on 2nd viewing I heard Abby say she couldn't remember having
laughed since the Wong Brothers. Huh? When Abby wanted to recreate
the good old days (watching Star Search), the food was going to be
pizza. Where was this Wong Brothers reference that I apparently missed
twice?
Agreed that Lamar's wife showing up on Mud Island was too much. Why
Mud Island? Just the biggest local tourist trap, so he could get lost
for a while? And where did Ray's boat *go*... he has to put in to port
somewhere, sometime for supplies...
Leslie
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206.22 | Thumbs up | VMSDEV::HALLYB | Fish have no concept of fire | Mon Jul 12 1993 13:57 | 12 |
| Loved the movie. I agree with many of the objections already discussed,
but felt overall the movie was absorbing and enjoyable. I'd see it again.
Ray's boat (spoiler):
... must have gone to the Caymans. Wasn't it whats-his-name's boat
that was used to ferry the copied records from Cayman to U.S.A?
Except I wonder how a convicted felon could get a passport on such
short notice, but what the hey.
John
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206.23 | It's in there | RNDHSE::WALL | Show me, don't tell me | Tue Jul 13 1993 13:16 | 10 |
|
re: .21
On the Wong Brothers:
Mitch mentions the name of the restaurant in the course of describing
the dinner he's laid out when Abby comes home, immediately after his
interview with The Firm.
DFW
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206.24 | My Firm Beliefs... | 3173::SLATER | Synchronicity - It's Everywhere! | Tue Jul 13 1993 14:53 | 24 |
| My comments about the movie:
I liked it but found it a little bizzare that for all the playing up of
Mitch's devotion to his wife in the movie, the only time we see him
passionately getting it on with someone is with the woman on the beach
who he helped after a "mock attack". I know there were some brief
scenes of him hugging his wife, etc., but no seen with his wife was as
intense as the beach sex scene. Wonder what the screen writers were
trying to tell the audience by arranging things this way?
Another interesting aspect of the movie was hearing Wilfred
whats-his-name, the guy who played the private-eye in the movie, say
the f-word once or twice. I mean after seeing him in the movie ,"Country"
as Jessica Lange's father, and after seeing him on cereal commercials
saying, "It just makes good sense." He's wholesome to the core, right?
I just didn't think the man was capable of such language or capable of
playing such a bad guy.
The other think I liked about the movie was the ELVIS character. He
was great, even though he didn't get much time on screen and very little
in the way of actual lines.
Bill
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206.25 | The movie didn't have the time to go into that much detail | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Take me for a little while | Tue Jul 13 1993 16:41 | 8 |
| In the book, there were several scenes where Mitch and his wife
became extremely passionate; in fact, they got it on almost anywhere,
at any time. He truly adored her in the book, which made his
submerging himself in work and the conflicts that occurred between them
as a result all the more believable. THe relationship betwen them in
the book was much more clearly defined.
NAZZ
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206.26 | | VAXWRK::STHILAIRE | a period of transition | Tue Jul 13 1993 17:20 | 5 |
| I thought they seemed pretty happy in the movie, too, until he started
staying so late at the office and ignoring her.
Lorna
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206.27 | Some thoughts | 16913::MILLS_MA | To Thine own self be True | Tue Jul 13 1993 18:16 | 53 |
|
In reading some of the comments on the movie's not detailing the
overworking of Mitch, something came to mind....
Marilyn
Spoiler follows:
Spoiler:
If I hadn't read the book, the party where they notified Mitch that he
had received the second-highest score on the Bar exam would have been
kind of perplexing. As it was, what I thought they didn't show, was how
much he had to work and that he only really had 3 days to prepare for
the Bar. By skipping it, they could have done away with all the "by the
way, no one from this firm has failed the Bar" comments, which really
didn't work as well in the movie, for the above reason as in the book.
Re. Mitch telling Abby about the one-night stand. In the book, he is
also being blackmailed by De Vasher (was that his name?) with the
pictures, but he does not tell Abby. IMHO, the book portrayed a "real"
human being, with virtues and flaws alike, not the goody two-shoes
Mitch of the movie. The fact that they changed his character,
necessitated all the other changes that did not "fit" the movie Mitch.
That's the part I didn't like about the movie. This book was a best
seller, why is it that movie makers don't respect the maturity of the
movie-going public enough to show flawed heroes? Only in Clint Eastwood
movies can you see them, it seems to me.
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206.28 | The audiences have different tastes... | 3D::COULTER | If this typewriter can't do it, ... | Tue Jul 13 1993 18:24 | 24 |
| RE: Note 206.27
> That's the part I didn't like about the movie. This book was a best
> seller, why is it that movie makers don't respect the maturity of the
> movie-going public enough to show flawed heroes?
It's taken a while for this to sink in for me, but a
best-seller *book* gets only a tiny, tiny fraction
of the readership that a blockbuster *movie* gets in
viewership. The audiences are not disjoint, but the
the "movie audience" is the one that has to be served.
As I saw all the people lining up for "The Firm", I
said, "Wow, maybe `reading' is really on the up-swing
in America -- look at all these people coming to see
John Grisham's book." My wife correctly informed me
that "all these people" are coming to see a Tom-Cruise-
movie!
If you can't enjoy both book and movie, give up on one
of them, I guess. :-)
dick
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206.29 | reply to -21 | 28964::LACORTI | | Wed Jul 14 1993 12:12 | 7 |
|
In the book I remember that they would go out for walks an awful lot
when they wanted to not be heard by the firm.
Also, my personal opinion was that it would be hard to directly
bug the backyard. Maybe the bugs in the house could overhear, but
they turned the stereo up loudly.
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206.30 | What they said, with rough figures | TLE::JBISHOP | | Wed Jul 14 1993 12:39 | 10 |
| A hundred thousand copies sold is doing good for a book; a million
copies sold is outstanding.
One million people going to a (non-artsy) movie is a failure.
Ten million breaks even; one hundred million makes fortunes.
I've seen estimates that there are only about a million
"serious" readers in the country.
-John Bishop
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206.31 | BOOKS vs MOVIES | 16913::MILLS_MA | To Thine own self be True | Wed Jul 14 1993 13:17 | 18 |
|
With respects to the book vs. the movie, the fact is that they didn't
give the "movie" audience the chance to like Mitch flaws and all. As I
stated, the only leading actor who consistently (OK, that I can think
of) protrays flawed heroes is Clint Eastwood, and it hasn't hurt hum
any.
Maybe it would be hard for Tom Cruise fans to see him play a guy who is
not perfect, but I think the book Mitch was a much deeper person and
one who grew up more than in the movie.
True, both media are different, but I enjoy both, and so do a lot of
other people that read. I think a lot of people can enjoy a movie whose
characters are not cartoony (meaning all bad or all good). But we
rarely get a chance to show it.
Marilyn
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206.32 | a little corection | 28218::PETERS | Be nice or be dog food | Wed Jul 14 1993 13:30 | 18 |
| re .30
You are confusing copies with dollars. If a movie made 100 million
dollars only 20 million people paid to see the movie of that
as much as 30 perecent are multi viewings by individuals.
The more money the movie makes the higher the percent of
repeat viewings
There is no doubt more people see a movie than read a book
but the difference in closer to 10 to one than 100 to one.
Also you movie numbers are off a major film cost between 20 and 50
million dollar and block buster run up to 100 million dollars.
A movie needs to make twice it's cost in gross earnings to
break even usually(actors share, directors share, advertising,
movie theathers share). Any movie that make 100 dollars is a sucess
Jurasic Park needs to make 160 million dollars to break even and
over 200 million to consider a success.
Jeff Peters
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206.33 | well, *I* call him flawed, but forgiveable | 11843::WOOLNER | Your dinner is in the supermarket | Wed Jul 14 1993 13:46 | 21 |
| Thanks for the varied responses to my nits in .21...
And with regard to flawed heroes,
That beach indiscretion may have been *set up* by the Firm, but Mitch
certainly didn't have to rise to the occasion. And he could have
'fessed up to Abby earlier than he chose to. So I don't call Mitch a
pristine character....
On (not) bugging the backyard, I guess I figure that even back as far
as James-Bond-movie technology, *anything* could be bugged reliably. I
know they overrode the indoor mikes with stereo volume; just wondering
why they weren't paranoid out back.
And I guess I believe that, given enough time, the FBI can find a fugitive
anywhere (it would take, what, 10 minutes to guess the Caymans?) and figure
out a way either to entice them into fair-game territory, or bend the law
enough to get them behind bars again.
I loved the silly line about the 2 quarter horses....
Leslie
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206.34 | I don't like it, I just report it | TLE::JBISHOP | | Wed Jul 14 1993 18:44 | 16 |
| re .43, "bend the law"
The US Supreme Court has already held that American law enforcement
officials can sieze a person in a foreign country and bring them
back for trial, etc., _no_matter_what_the_legal_situation_is_in_the
foreign_country_!
We've done this in countries which have no extradition treaty, and
those that do ("would take too long; might not work" was the excuse);
we've done this when the alleged offense was not a crime in the country
concerned; we've done this to American citizens and to non-citizens.
We've even siezed the head of state of a foreign country (Panama).
So no place is safe.
-John Bishop
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206.35 | | 12035::MDNITE::RIVERS | AI worth shaving your head for | Mon Jul 19 1993 12:48 | 43 |
| Saw it, liked it. By and large, better than the book, altho I didn't
like the cop out ending in the movie. (Didn't like the version in the
book either, but you can't win 'em all).
What I liked:
Wilfred Brimley saying f***. :)
Mitch being a much more likable person in the movie.
Gene Hackman.
David Straithairn.
Holly Hunter.
Ed Harris.
A considerable amount of the plot changes from the book to make the
movie more suspenseful/flow better/etc.
What I didn't like:
The ending. Too pat.
The turning of Tarrance into a vertible ass (I liked him and felt
considerably more sorry for him in the novel).
The leaving out of what I thought were important facets of Mitch's
tenure at the law firm: studying for the bar under such great pressures
and limited time, the massive hours he put in, etc. It looked like in
the movie he just parked his butt there for a day or two and baddabing!
suddenly he was embroiled in a mess.
Overall:
Not bad, really. Better than to be expected.
*** (a full .50 for Wilfred Brimley NOT acting like your grumpy old
grandpa :)
kim
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206.36 | job insecurity | 16913::MEUSE_DA | | Thu Aug 26 1993 19:46 | 13 |
|
Finally went and paid my money (actually got in free, since the ticket
person is a good friend of my daughter) and I liked the movie.
Enjoyed all the actors, especially Gene H. one of my favorites.
I didn't think it was a great film, just entertaining and suspenseful.
So I would give it 3 out of 4 stars. I enjoyed "In the Line of Fire
more. And am planning on see the "Fugitive" this weekend.
Dave
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206.37 | Where did they go? | 37811::BUCHMAN | UNIX refugee in a VMS world | Mon Jan 24 1994 18:30 | 44 |
| Wilfred Brimley as a bad guy was great! After seeing that movie, my
wife said "I'll never eat a bowl of hot oatmeal again!" Heck, after
reading the book, I feel paranoid coming to work after hours, even with
my badge :-}
splr
Where did they go in the boat? They cruised the more primitive islands
in the Caribbean. After all, they were loaded with cash: almost
a million in the movie; and in the book, Mitch made a little wire
transfer from one of the Morolto Family's accounts to push his balance
to $10 million. After all, they had marked him for death already, so he
couldn't do anything to make it worse.
In this they had the help of the guy who owned a dive shop in the
Cayman Islands. His son had been killed in the "diving accident" which
killed two lawyers working for the Bendini firm, so he was willing to
be helpful. He hooked them up with a guy named George who stole $10
million twenty years before; since then George had been sailing around
the islands. One of the poignant things about the book was that Mitch
asked him whether he ever stopped looking over his shoulder, and George
said that he still thinks about it from time to time.
I thought this ending was great because, as a weekend sailor, I have
always dreamed of cruising for a season or a few years. Mitch told
Tarrance in the book that the Mob never forgets, and that no matter
where in the US or even overseas that he went, they would eventually
track him down. When I read that, I thought about the people I've read
about who live aboard their boats. They sail for weeks or months from
one port to another in the Pacific or Caribbean, and during that time
*nobody( knows where they are! So I enjoyed it when Mitch decided to
escape in excactly that way.
I preferred the book, but must admit that the movie impressed me in a
couple ways. Mitch *did* find an interesting middle ground that would
bring down the firm, keep the FBI happy, and prevent the Mob from
killing him. And since he really loved the law, it was important that
he find a way not to be disbarred. There were some good points about
doing the ethical thing, like preserving client confidentiality no
matter who the client is. We joke so often about lawyers that it was
refreshing to be reminded that they do have their ethics. Some of 'em,
anyway. :-)
\ Jim
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206.38 | best movie | AKOCOA::LPIERCE | That's my Story | Tue Mar 29 1994 17:24 | 17 |
|
Great movie!
We watched it Sundaynight.. my hubby and I are allwasy in bed (asleep)
buy 10:00 the latest.. we started to watch the Firm at 9:00ish..we
thought we'd shut it off and come back to it later..WRONG!
We didn't move from our seats... we were rivited and enjoyed
every moment of it!!! We didn't get to sleep until 1:00! We
still had so much hydrelian(sp) pumping through our bodies to
go sleep.
We have not made it up that late in years...
Great Movie
lkp
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206.39 | | OOTOOL::CHELSEA | Mostly harmless. | Wed Apr 20 1994 14:10 | 9 |
| I finally read the book, which made for interesting comparison. The
book is essentially all plot; the movie added a little depth, but not
much, to the characters.
The ending was significantly different. I think the ending in the book
wasn't really "cinematic" -- too complicated and drawn out.
Unfortunately, I think the movie's ending was a little too much
cinematic cliche. At least it was neat to see two different solutions
to the problem.
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206.40 | | HELIX::MAIEWSKI | | Tue Oct 04 1994 16:28 | 23 |
| I saw this movie on tape last week and I liked it a lot. Nothing heavy but
good entertainment that kept me on the edge of my seat.
**** of 5,
I agree with those who say that ...
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... telling his wife was the smart thing to do because she would have been
a lot more ticked off if she had seen the pictures 1st. In the movie she asked
him why he told her and he said something about not being able to live without
her knowing but that was obviously B.S.
It's a stretch to think that the Mob would just let them drive off into the
sunset, particularly to Boston, but it was, after all, a movie.
Someone said the F.B.I. always gets their man/woman. Tell that to Katherin
Powers. She managed to hide out for a couple decades in Oregon. They had no
idea where she was.
George
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206.41 | A little dissapointed. | UNTADI::SAXBY | Something Olympian about him | Fri Jul 28 1995 04:20 | 29 |
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We watched this last night :-
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I felt the incident on the beach was totally out of character. I
couldn't imagine Cruise's character leaping on this girl on the beach
after turning down the woman in the bar (who we presume he'd been
talking with for a while). It was just plain wrong...if he'd spent the
evening with the woman in the bar and then ended up sleeping with her,
I'd have bought that...maybe.
Also, the overbilling seemed crazy! Here was a company with mob
connections making a few bucks on diddling customers on their bills?
If it had been an oversight on one or two customer's accounts, I may
have believed that, but a general policy? No...didn't fly...
A pity really, because overall I quite enjoyed the film. Cruise was OK,
the wife I didn't like, she seemed to wallow in self inflicted
suffering, which didn't fit with her initial doubts, and her role at the
end didn't fit with either! Holly Hunter was great (a small part, but
her character shone out), as was Hackman (but I usually like him - his
character was possibly the best - crooked, but decent, sort of.).
Only other complaint is that I agree the film was a little too long.
The should've cut 30 minutes, but it seems these days that all
'serious' films are over 2 hours.
Mark
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206.42 | Read the book, skip the movie. | POLAR::LYLE | mud is not 1 of the 4 food groups | Wed Jul 31 1996 02:23 | 15 |
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After reading the book, I finally seen the flick.
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I did not like the movie at all. There were way too many changes made.
I understand that it is difficult to adapt most aspects of a book into
a movie, but the entire ending was changed. I think that they should've
kept the ending as it is in the book. It would be more exciting to the
movie goer and keep the people that are sticklers for accuracy (like
me) happy.
Dave
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