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183.1 | Ken Does It Again | 39293::MAGOWAN | | Tue May 11 1993 12:48 | 20 |
| This movie was reviewed on Friday in the New York Times. The reviewer
gave it an excellent write up. He said everyone in the cast, which
includes Denzel Washington, Keanu Reeves, Robert Sean Leonard, Kate
Beckinsale, Michael Keaton and Phillda Law (who is Emma Thompson's
mother and Kenneth Branagh's mother-in-law), are very good and handle
their roles with ease.
Kenneth Branagh plays Benedick to Emma Thompson's Beatrice. Their
sharp-tongued barbs back and forth at one another are supposed to be
very funny and at times even touching.
The dialog is said to be very romantic and funny and the scenery is
supposed to be breathtaking (I believe it was filmed on location
somewhere in Italy).
I believe that Mr. Branagh is going to continue to show American
audiences that Shakespeare can indeed be great fun.
-E
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183.2 | Coming to Boston 5/21 | QUARRY::reeves | Jon Reeves, ULTRIX compiler group | Thu May 13 1993 13:13 | 0 |
183.3 | Location | SMAUG::LEHMKUHL | H, V ii 216 | Tue May 18 1993 16:30 | 8 |
| Shot in Tuscany in August 1992. The villa where the
film was made is available for rent, or is a pension,
or something. I'll try to remember to post the details.
dcl
ps - Next up for Ken, Dr. Frankenstein with de Niro as
the monster.
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183.4 | ****/***** from me | SMAUG::LEHMKUHL | H, V ii 216 | Mon May 24 1993 10:47 | 53 |
| I saw "Much Ado..." at the Nick on Saturday. There was
a good house for a Saturday matinee when the sun was
shining in Boston.
There is a tendency to gush all over this film. The
critics are doing a great job of that, so I'll leave them
to it. Suffice it to say, it is a brilliant job.
Branagh has brought the same sort of clarity of text
and storyline to this film as he has done in his recent
stage performances. It is a simple story about love,
jealousy, mistaken identity, and general foolery. But
the language and characterizations take it miles about
anything else I've seen on film this year. Oh well,
I'm gushing afterall.
The usual cast of Renaissance Films PLC characters:
Branagh, David Parfitt, and Stephen Evans produced;
Tim Harvey designed (this man is an unsung genius);
Phyllis Dalton did the costumes; Iona Price organized;
and Pat Doyle did the music; Shaun Webb did the
graphics.
In addition to the prinicipals mentioned in previous
notes, there are familiar faces from Renaissance TC
in the cast: Brian Blessed as Antonio, Imelda Staunton
as Margaret, Edward Jewesbury as the sexton, Jimmy
Yuill as the Friar, Gerard Horan (what's that cop
drama of his on UK TV? "London's Burning", or
something); Richard Clifford as Conrade; and Richard
Briers as Leonato.
Michael Keaton and Ben Elton are a riot as Dogberry and
Verges, the required comic relief.
The music comes up for special praise, and I'll be
hunting up the Epic CD at Tower Records. Doyle also
did a very good job singing his own music as the
minstral/soldier Balthasar. I was surprised to see
that all the music on the screen was recorded in
realtime.
Take particular note of the closing shot in the film.
It runs about 4 minutes and whoever the Steadicam
operator was deserves a medal. The shot follows the
dancers through the house and around the garden
and through the gates and then up into the air
until it finishes up 100 feet or so over the villa.
I don't see how he (or she) got so smoothly onto a
crane platform! They must have done two dozen takes
to get this on film. In Tuscany in August, where
it was probably 100F.
dcl
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183.5 | Better than "Ghostbusters II" | ESGWST::RDAVIS | Ditty Bag | Mon May 24 1993 13:02 | 34 |
| As expected, Beatrice and Benedick are perfect roles for Thompson and
Branagh. After an off-puttingly "hardy" opening, their comic scenes
are hilarious, and even cover a broad range of hilarity. But
especially remarkable was the ease and power with which they handled
the shift to more serious and more threatening scenes -- real
shiver-enducers.
Denzel Washington was a revelation. The part of the Prince had always
seemed weak and underdeveloped to me, but Washington turns it into a
plum role. He's thoroughly princely -- aristocratic, warm, humorous,
wearing power like comfortable old clothes. The hint of courtship
between him and Beatrice was brilliant; so was his handling of the
bereaved father and uncle -- he felt pity for them but at a suitable
distance. And hey, how about that father and uncle!
On the other hand, Keanu Reeves had a great sulk but should have
avoided a speaking role. Michael Keaton did a fine job with his
interpretation, but the interpretation (Dogberry as sadistic psychotic)
felt wrong to me -- maybe it was just the shock after two decades of
imagining him as a harmless bumbler. The ingenues were even more
annoyingly shallow than necessary.
Worst of all was the music, a veritable tidal wave of tripe which
drowned every scene it entered. The songs and arrangements were pure
1940s Disney; I kept picturing bunnies and happy bluebirds joining in
on the chorus. Elizabethan song was as good as vocal music gets --
it's absurd to pass up an opportunity to use it.
More intangibly, Branagh hadn't _rethought_ the play as a film; the
visual density was that of theater. Really fine theater.
So, a very good movie, not a great one.
Ray
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183.6 | Much Ado about something | GOLF::HERMAN | What's so funny 'bout P,L&U? | Mon May 24 1993 15:31 | 37 |
| I also saw this at the Nick this weekend. Maybe we should have gone as
a MOVIE.NOTE party for a group discount. :^)
I think Branagh makes Shakespeare vibrant and accessible and modern.
The actors in Renaissance Films plc (:^)) have the ability to totally
internalize the dialog and then speak such that the lines do not sound
like lines, but rather the only proper words that the character would
say. They do not recite, but speak from the heart of the characters.
Branagh and Thompson are especially spectacular, and their bantering
had the audience laughing out loud many, many times. (BTW- Is the deck
chair an anachronism? :^))
As for the non-Renaissance Films players...
Michael Keaton/Ben Elton. I think their interpretation
was...interesting. :^) I found the presence of Beetlejuice in a
Shakespearean comedy not the choice I would have made, and it jarred my
absorption in the movie. They were hilarious, but distracting.
Keanu Reeves on the other hand... :^( Why he was chosen for the part
astounds me. Yes, he looks good, but he is dwarfed in comparison with
the rest of the talent on the screen. He did a fine job in "My Own
Private Idaho", so it's not his general acting ability, but Shakespeare
is not a good fit. (Neither is Bram Stoker, for that matter.)
Yes, the final shot vies with the final sequence in Depardieu's
"Cyrano De Bergerac". Amazing cinematography.
9/10.
Cheers,
George
(And I liked the music- I felt it was appropriate to be light and frothy and
Disney-like.)
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183.7 | | ESGWST::RDAVIS | Ditty Bag | Mon May 24 1993 15:57 | 14 |
| The most knowledgable member of our party said that the deck chair was
an anachronism, but not the one which bothered her most. The most
theatrical member of our party then pointed out that anachronism was as
Shakespearean as bare bodkins by reminiscing about a production of
"Pericles" where an intensely embarrassed guy dressed as an ancient
Greek had to say several lines about tennis.
For me the final shot was ruined by the 3000-tons-of-corn-syrup music
and my growing suspicion that the last bunch of none-too-enthusiastic
dancers we saw had been told "Oh, just dance, you know, make merry."
Sort of like those legendary mob scenes where everyone says, "Mumble
mumble mumble. HEY! mumble mumble."
Ray
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183.8 | anachronisms | SMAUG::LEHMKUHL | H, V ii 216 | Mon May 24 1993 18:37 | 11 |
| I didn't pay too much attention to supposed anachronisms.
I think Branagh made a conscious effort to avoid being
pinned down to a period, period as such being irrele-
vant to the theme. He (and designers Dalton and Harvey)
wound up with something identifiable only as pre-20th
century, or maybe pre-Industrial Revolution. As you
say, Shakespeare never worried too much about
anachronisms in the text. No reason why directors
should.
Chris
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183.9 | I never thought I'd live to get married... | RNDHSE::WALL | Show me, don't tell me | Tue Jun 01 1993 10:31 | 21 |
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Well, I liked this a good deal. I'd pay full price to see it again.
In fact, I might even drive to Cambridge to see it again. I confess
that I am predisposed toward liking Branagh's work and that he would
have had to make an absolute hash of it to get me to hate it.
I like Doyle's work, too, although I must admit I thought the music was
a little over the top in places. It's fine as music, and I, too, will
be seeking out the CD, but it didn't mesh with the visuals quite as
nicely in some places. One place where it was just about perfect was
the just-after-opening sequence when the Prince and his retinue arrive.
Probably the most stirring music-for-guys-on-horseback since Michel
Legrand's work on Lester's version of The Three Musketeers.
Denzel Washington is terrific. Keanu Reeves not on screen long enough
to be really annoying. Michael Keaton hilarious, even if he *did*
re-use his Beetlejuice voice. Robert Sean Leonard a little too weepy
maybe -- one felt the urge to tell him to grow up. Another good
illustration that Shakespeare was meant to be seen, not read.
DFW
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183.10 | fabulous! | HUMOR::EPPES | I'm not making this up, you know | Mon Aug 09 1993 13:58 | 11 |
| I just saw "Much Ado..." and I loved it! I wish it had been available when
I took Shakespeare courses in high school and college... :-)
I loved "Henry V," too. I hope Kenneth Branagh makes more Shakespeare movies!
-- Nina
P.S. For NH residents/neighbors, it's playing at the Wilton Town Hall Theatre
through Sept. 9. It must be popular - last night was the most crowded I'd
ever seen the "big" theatre (though it wasn't completely full), and the
movie'd already been playing there a week...
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183.11 | | 29124::MCABEE | No relation to Judas Maccabee | Mon Aug 09 1993 17:38 | 11 |
| It was cute and entertaining and I enjoyed it, but it suffered a bit from
the inclusion of big-name Americans with little understanding of Shakespeare.
You just can't beat a real Shakespeare repertory company.
I really prefer the version that was on TV twenty-mumble years ago featuring
Sam Waterson.
That said, I thought Ken and Emma were great and I hope he continues bringing
Shakespeare to the movie masses.
Bob
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183.12 | | ACESMK::CHELSEA | Mostly harmless. | Tue Sep 07 1993 19:22 | 19 |
| I hope it comes out on video by winter; all that sunshine and golden
glow will be mighty inviting then.
I'd say this is a good film, but not a great one. Part of it is
Shakespeare's fault, I think; the whole business with the ingenues is
rather contrived. Part of it is Branagh's fault; the "frolicking"
scenes beginning and end were pretty stagy. I couldn't get into the
comic relief, probably because I couldn't understand all that mumbling.
Ken and Emma were the high point as Benedick and Beatrice, as expected,
and the confrontation at the wedding has real power.
Between this and _Hamlet_, it's become obvious to me that doing
Shakespeare is more than a matter of just saying the words. There's
something in the _way_ they're said that's extremely important. Of the
(non-Shakespearean) Americans, Denzel Washington seemed to handle it
best. As for Keanu Reeves, I get the feeling there's something in the
voice itself, rather than the phrasing, that's lacking; it would have
been interesting to see him as Claudio.
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183.13 | MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING | 60608::SKOOG | | Mon Nov 08 1993 18:11 | 40 |
| Just joining this conference.... Ex-yank living in Australia for 22
years.
I must admit that over the last few years I have gone completely OFF
most American mainstream films. The sensationalism is them is
ridiculous! Like "The Firm", first two-thirds to three quarters
somewhat believable and then full blown ridiculousness sets in....
Australia has an excellent film industry, really true to life, hard
hitting at times, films. Of course "The Piano" is a real treat, but
we've had alot of others that will never go anywhere unfortunately....
One low budget American film I really enjoyed was "Gas Food and
Lodging", very simple, but REAL!
I've been getting in to foreign films lately too, got "Delicatessen"
out on video on the weekend. What a scream! It was really bizarre at
first but had me laughing out loud, on my own, alot.
On Sunday I saw "Much Ado About Nothing", and unfortunately that is
exactly what I thought of it! I went with a girl friend with whom I
normally agree on films, but she enjoyed it and I abhorred it! The
characters she liked, I hated! In is in the Shakespearian talk which
is alot of words in a round about way that says something simple, so
it took half a hour, more through actions, to figure out what was going
on. Unfortunately we had some serious noisy packet operators, so I was
trying to listen with one ear plugged!
I was told Kenneth Branagh didn't want to be seen as a "stuffy, boring"
englishman doing Shakespeare, well he sure isn't, he's gone over the
top the other way with this one! It all just seemed so ridiculous I
really got frustrated and wanted to leave, but I lived in hope....
Lots of people were roaring with laughter, my friend wasn't but said
she really enjoyed it.
So there you go! I guess you go and make up your own mind....
After "Peter's Friend", by Branagh, this was a REAL letdown.
Sooz
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183.14 | a review from Usenet | HYLNDR::TRUMPLER | Help prevent truth decay. | Fri Apr 01 1994 12:51 | 101 |
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MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING
A film review by Mark R. Leeper
Copyright 1994 Mark R. Leeper
Capsule review: Imagine a film with the point of view
of THELMA & LOUISE but set in medieval Italy. No, it is not
even that good. There is some nice Italian scenery, but the
film reeks of feminist rhetoric with a blood-thirsty man-
hater as its hero. Rating: -2 (-4 to +4).
With the coming of April, I felt it would be nice to see a
warm-weather sort of movie and the video release of MUCH ADO ABOUT
NOTHING seemed about right. The title makes it sound as if it is a
carefree sort of film. WRONG! What we have is a particularly vicious
exercise in political correctness and anachronism. What this film
gives us is almost two hours of tiresome lecture on how wise and good
women are and how stupid, gullible, and vicious men are. The story is
set in some historical never-never land. The film never even bothers
to tell us exactly when. Even CONAN THE BARBARIAN, itself set in a
historical never-never land, at least gives you some context as to when
to place it. But the two films have similar approaches, at least in
their polyglot cultures. MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING seems to be set mostly
in Italy, maybe late 13th Century, but we have Spanish names
indiscriminately mixed into this witch's brew. In any case, it does
not matter. The characters and their attitudes are all 1990s, or at
least how somebody sees the 1990s.
I knew I was in trouble from the very beginning when the film
opened with a song about how faithless and useless men are. That would
be bad enough, but director Kenneth Branagh puts the words on the
screen and all but puts a bouncing ball with them. So the whole
audience is reading as well as hearing his sexist diatribe against
men. The song is sung by Beatrice, the hero of the piece. (But not
the Hero of the piece. A rather insipid female character is given the
name Hero. I am surprised Beatrice is given a name like "Beatrice"
rather than "Sisterhood" or just "Woman." Perhaps the name conjured up
some picture of women beating men.) Beatrice hates all men, for good
reason no doubt. At the beginning of the film she is haranguing
against Benedick, who has been off to some war, risking his life for
people like Beatrice. But her hatred is still strong. (It's as if she
is saying, "Women, take note. Do not let absence soften your heart.
Always remember who the Enemy is. Your country will lie to you about
who your enemies are. Just remember the real foe is Man.")
What follows is intended to be a comic mix-up of treachery. There
is a good schemer and a bad schemer. The good schemer is case in
anachronistic black. (Denzel Washington is good, but he is not
convincing as a medieval Spaniard. I suppose, though, that one must be
politically correct in one's casting.) The evil schemer is played by
Keanu Reeves, whose acting is the dramatic equivalent of the sound
"thud." His scheme is to prevent a marriage from taking place and for
this he is branded the villain of the piece. Little mention is made of
Beatrice's own scheme. As the film wears on, Beatrice has softened on
Benedick but now hates Claudio. She gives Benedick the task that if he
loves her (oh, he now loves her for some reason) he should kill
Claudio. That is on the pretext that Claudio has caused Hero's death,
but Beatrice knows it is not true. She merely wants to see Benedick
kill Claudio. The film never says that Beatrice, trying to arrange
murder on what she knows is a false pretense, is doing a bad thing.
The victim, after all, is only a man. If women murder innocent men,
well, all men are guilty of something or other--maybe for being
"potential rapists." "Men are deceivers ever," as Beatrice says. It
is open season on killing them, ladies. That seems to be the theme of
this rather odious piece of cinema. And what about the law? Well,
here the law is represented by Dogberry (Michael Keaton) and he comes
off as being even less than human. This film is one diatribe against
men after another.
The photography of Italy is very nice when it does not have some
jerk of a man dancing in a fountain. (I have never seen a man dance in
a fountain--but the director wants to make men seem a trifle flighty
along with all their other failings.) The screenplay is by William
Shakespeare, more than likely the pen name for some woman who has been
spending her time in feminist bookstores. Rating: -2 on the -4 to +4
scale.
Mark R. Leeper
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183.15 | Let Usenet be Usenet | 3759::AHERN | Dennis the Menace | Sun Apr 03 1994 14:29 | 6 |
| RE: .14 by HYLNDR::TRUMPLER
>a review from Usenet
Yes, well, what did YOU think of it?
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183.16 | | HYLNDR::TRUMPLER | Help prevent truth decay. | Mon Apr 04 1994 10:20 | 5 |
| Re .15:
I liked both (the movie and the review). I suppose for posterity's
sake I should mention that the review date be carefully inspected.
Mark
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183.17 | | 5468::J_TOMAO | | Mon May 09 1994 14:49 | 10 |
| Rented this over the weekend...Loved It!!!!
Oh the bantering between Benedic and Beatrice was delicious. Reeves
was terrible but I like most of the other reviews here, thought Denzel
did an excellent job as the prince. I'm also glad that I wasn't the
only one who thought someone yelled Beetleguise Beetleguise Beetleguise
:^)
It was a very enjoyable movie.
Jt
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183.18 | | 29124::MCABEE | relative moralist | Thu May 12 1994 16:52 | 8 |
| I remember a TV version by Joe Papp's crew about twenty-five years ago,
with Sam Waterson as Benedick. I wonder if there's any chance it's
on video anywhere.
My elderly father-in-law refers to this as "A Big To Do About Not Much Of
Anything".
Bob
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183.19 | Excellent! | UNTADI::SAXBY | Rover Diablo Owner | Fri May 05 1995 05:00 | 35 |
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I'm not a regular reader or writer in this conference, but I saw this
film last night and felt compelled to say something about it.
I'm not a Shakespearian buff, but I like a good rendition of one of his
plays (I've seen one or two stage productions and numerous films).
However, this film is utterly wonderful. I didn't know anything about
the plot (Hang your head in shame, Englishman), but it was related so
well that that mattered not one iota. Despite the 'old English',
Shakespeare is still very modern, in many ways.
Everyone was excellent in their part (even Keanu, dude...:^)) and I echo
all the positive comments in previous notes (especially that about
Washington as the prince - he really is a great actor).
If my wife and I could act, we would've been ideal for Beatrice and
Benedic! In fact, on a good day we could do it without acting. :^) My
point, if I have one, is that Mr and Mrs Branagh bought a touch to the
film, which I think even the best of actors couldn't reproduce. In this
film they really strike sparks of each other!
Finally, a comment about Keaton. We sat through the whole film trying
to work out who the actor playing that part was :^) At the end, we said
'Of course!!'. At first he and Elton (played as Dustin Hofman in
Papillion?) jarred, but as the film progressed they became an amusing
aside, and Shakespear often includes such characters in his plays. I
suspect that they (Keaton and Elton) would have gone down very well at
the Globe :^)
See this film whether you like Shakespeare or not. After it you may
find a taste for more.
Mark
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