Conference bookie::movies

    Old plot: Heinlien's _Double_Star_ is almost the same story,
    _Prisoner_of_Zenda_ has parallels.  The similiar Jacob-and-Esau
    plot is older than either.
    
    How believable is it, i.e. how much disbelief must one suspend?
    
    		-John Bishop

    
    I didn't find it very hard to suspend disbelief, principally because
    Kline is a good actor and I don't think people find it all that hard to
    believe the President has his foibles just like the rest of us.  It
    speaks very tellingly of the isolation of the office.  Everyone you
    would expect to figure it out does.
    
    I liked it quite a bit -- it's got a happy ending without having a
    mushy ending.  Ben Kingsley does very well in his small role.  A few
    Senators illustrate they chose the wrong career. :-)
    
    DFW

    Very enjoyable.  It was a light comedy with not too many belly laughs. 
    It was a very pleasant night out at the movies.  We usually rent tapes
    and rarely see a first run at a theater so I was definitly pleased.
    
    I also enjoyed all the Wash DC scenes and thought they did a fabulous
    job of duplicating the interior of the White House.
    
    Kline's character was similar to Bush but I thought he did a great job
    of portraying a president.
    
    **** out of *****
    Joyce

I *loved* this movie!  Maybe I was just in the right mood for it, but I got a
couple of pretty good belly laughs out of it.  The rest of the time, I was
just enchanted.  (Of course, I'm a big Kevin Kline fan, which helps... :-) )

It is definitely a fable/fairy tale, but you really want to believe it could
happen (although of course you know it couldn't).  

Best movie I've seen in a long time.  Four stars out of four for me.

						-- Nina

    I saw DAVE this weekend, too, and I think INDECENT PROPOSAL is going to
    drop from #1! DAVE WAS OUTSTANDING!!!! Finally, something to blow the
    top off the box office!
    
    I could find nothing wrong with the movie -- no flaws, no errors, no
    nothin' (and I *always* look for them)!
    
    LOVED IT...LOVED IT...LOVED IT...
    
    I think, maybe, a 10+ !
    
    Best movie I've seen all year...
    
    Catherine
    

    
    
    I'm anxious to see this movie, I love one scene I've seen in the
    previews (I'll write it behind a form feed just in case...)
    
    
    
    
    You see Dave in this dock machinery (I don't know what it's called,
    Sigourney Weaver was in one in the movie Aliens) where it has large
    mechanical arms and he spreads them out (liking spreading out his arms)
    and says "I caught a fish THIS BIG!" (meaning the length of the
    outstretched arms.
    
    I thought that was hilarious and knew right away that this was one of
    my must see movies!
    
    

    RE: .2  by RNDHSE::WALL 
    
    >I didn't find it very hard to suspend disbelief, principally because
    >Kline is a good actor ...
    
    He was originally cast for the Robin Williams part in "Aladdin", but
    they couldn't get him out of the bottle and it went on forever.
    

>    >Kline is a good actor ...
>    He was originally cast for the Robin Williams part in "Aladdin", but
>    they couldn't get him out of the bottle and it went on forever.

    Pause... blank stare into space...  click, click, whirr.  *Ping*.  Light
    flashes on... slap forehead and *groan*...  *Loud*ly....

    Someone'll get you for that, Dennis. :-)

    ...also sounds like "Moon over Parador"...

    yes, it has a very similar story line to many otehr movies, but it was
    still very entertaining.
    
    
    Joyce

    RE: .8  by 3600::LAVEY 
    
    >Pause... blank stare into space...  click, click, whirr.  *Ping*.  Light
    >flashes on... slap forehead and *groan*...  *Loud*ly....
    
    You should have known from the previews for "Dave" that show him doing
    the Mobius strip for Sigourney Weaver.
    

    One of the reasons I'm not so hot to see this movie, even though I love
    Kevin Kline: Sigourney Weaver.  What IS it about this actress?  Why
    does she have a career???!!!
    
    Leslie

    Actually Leslie - SW drives me crazy too - irroatting is actually the
    word - but in Dave she was actually good.  I thought she made a
    wondeful 1st lady, besides she is probably in less than 1/2 the movie.
    
    Go see it! You'll be glad you did.
    
    Joyce

    
    She's tall and slim and has a deep voice?
    
    DFW

    She's also a good actress.
    
    
    kim

    I don't know.  Having seen Bob Roberts a short while ago and now this
    it makes me sad.  Why do we have to go to movies to see how our
    government is run?  If we're not going to give our president's any real
    power why not just turn D.C. over to Hollywood and let them run the
    show.  It would certainly be a lot more glamourous and people would
    probabaly tune in for it every day.
    
    Everyday we hear the latest popularity poll for Bill Clinton.  Can you
    stand it?  How would you like to be rated on a daily basis?  How does
    one keep up one's rating when all one's ideas and programs are blocked
    and pulled apart before even being implemented.  
    
    I thought Sigourney was excellent in this, in fact, the most
    believeable.

    I think the difference between "Bob Roberts" and "Dave" is that "Bob
    Roberts" was a chilling and pessimistic movie, while "Dave" is a much
    more pleasant, upbeat fable.  I loved "Bob Roberts", by the way--its
    satire was brilliant and right on target.  But a big part of the appeal
    of "Dave", I think, is its more upbeat outlook.
    
    -- Mike

    Be sure to keep an eye out for Oliver Stone playing Oliver Stone
    on the Larry King show in the movie.  Yet another conspiracy theory,
    this time he was correct.  (Not to mention a similar appearance on
    TV last night in "Wild Palms").
    
    With all the word-of-mouth and publicity I'd have thought the theatre
    would be crowded.  Maybe 10 people showed up for the noon viewing at
    Premiere 8 in Nashua/Merrimack.
    
      John

    Saw it yesterday(Sunday)to a half packed theatre. Hilarious.
    I did wonder if Robin Williams looked at this script first
    and turned it down to do Toys. 

                      <<< Note 177.16 by 57133::RYDBERG >>>
                 -< It's time for a woman in the White House >-

    I don't know.  Having seen Bob Roberts a short while ago and now this
    it makes me sad.  Why do we have to go to movies to see how our
    government is run?  If we're not going to give our president's any real
    power why not just turn D.C. over to Hollywood and let them run the
    show.  It would certainly be a lot more glamourous and people would
    probabaly tune in for it every day.
    
I thought, with Bill Clinton in the White House, that we've already given
Hollywood a strong influence in the White House... Afterall, Bill is friends
with lots of the Hollywood Left.

    Everyday we hear the latest popularity poll for Bill Clinton.  Can you
    stand it?  How would you like to be rated on a daily basis?  How does
    one keep up one's rating when all one's ideas and programs are blocked
    and pulled apart before even being implemented.  

And I prey to God that they never do get implemented!!!
    
    I thought Sigourney was excellent in this, in fact, the most
    believeable.

She was OK, but I really liked the movie (except for the political statements
made in the movie... too liberal, too make-you-feel-good type political 
statements...)

/Scott

    re: You'll love the political ideas if you're a Liberal
    
    If you think that everyone that wants to work rather then
    take welfare is wrong and it you think that paying defense contractors
    for not doing work is right you have a point. I know conservatives
    love the idea of welfare soooooo much. Uh oh, I thought
    I was in the soapbox notesfile. Sorry. ;)

           <<< Note 177.21 by 34838::KATZ "Follow your conscience" >>>
                                -< wrong again >-

>    re: You'll love the political ideas if you're a Liberal
>
>    If you think that everyone that wants to work rather then
>    take welfare is wrong and it you think that paying defense contractors
>    for not doing work is right you have a point. 

I didn't say that... I said that the political view was liberal (i.e. how
to solve the problem was from a liberal viewpoint...), so if you're a liberal
then you'll agree with the solutions in the movie (actually, I was only 
thinking about the little bit with Dave's "Job" bill). The actual problems
shown in the movie are problems, I don't disagree with you. I just disagree
with the solutions.

>    I know conservatives love the idea of welfare soooooo much. 

We do?????????????????????

>    Uh oh, I thought I was in the soapbox notesfile. Sorry. ;)

oh... sorry... I thought I was in the soapbox notesfile too! ;)

/Scott

    Maybe a combination of Bob Roberts and Dave would have worked for me. 
    Bob ROberts was too cynical and Dave was too applie-pie-in-the-sky.
    
    But then again maybe a movie entitled "Sigourney" or "Hillary" playing
    the lead role would be the blockbuster we've been waiting for.

    ...What, people weren't happy when we had a "real" actor in the White
    House???  Quite frankly, the line between cinematic "art" and reality
    was erased in November of 1979...

    We thought this was pretty good.  I laughed a lot.
    

    
    Saw this finally at a matinee along with Made in America. Both were
    entertaining and funny, but I liked this film better. Good movie. Kline
    and Weaver were great together.
    
    Dave
    

    I saw Dave over the weekend. We took my elderly in-laws and my 9  year
    old daughter. We all loved it. Truly a movie "the whole family can
    enjoy".
    
    I've had the experience lately of going to movies I thought were going
    to be merely "OK" and coming ouy saying "Wow, that was a really great
    movie." (I like when that hppens). Dave was like that. (The last one
    that was for me was "A League Of Their Own").
    
    ****
    
    Dick

    
    Dave is finally out here in the UK, and I went to see it last night. I
    enjoyed, if it had been a more cynical satire (never seen Bob Roberts,
    but going by the descriptions, something like that), I probably
    wouldn't. The nice thing from a non-American viewpoint is that it isn't
    having a go at the American political system, it's having a go at
    politics in general, and that will help it out here.
    
    I've always liked Kline as an actor, but in Dave the one thing that
    struck me was how easily he played a hard-unemotional President (albeit
    briefly) and a happy, up beat guy-on-the-street. The two characters
    couldn't have been more different, but he played both well.
    
    3 out of 4.
    
    Graham.

Great movie....loved it...

***** out of *****

    A frothy, light comedy which gives one a frothy, light time.  Not too
    much preaching about the evils of government. My favorite part: when
    Oliver Stone is proposing that a conspiracy is happening at the White
    House ("If you look at the pictures of the President before and after
    the stroke...")  A guy who can poke fun at himself is OK by me. :)
    
    Also liked Ben Kingsley's dignified VP.   
    
    
    **.75 out of ****
    
    kim