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Created:Thu Jan 28 1993
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89.0. "Giant" by DSSDEV::RUST () Mon Mar 22 1993 20:49

    And another !(round-tuit) classic: "Giant" might have gone down in
    history as the first made-for-TV mini-series, except it was a movie. 
    A whacking _long_ movie, too. With a really horrible sound track,
    though I couldn't tell if it was from a bad print or a careless sound
    person at channel whatever-it-was. In any case, half of the dialogue
    was so muddy and muffled I could barely make it out, and of the rest,
    James Dean's dialogue was also muffled and muddy - but then he always
    talks/talked like that, didn't he? ;-) 
    
    Oh, OK, it was fun. Liz Taylor looked gorgeous (which was her main
    job), even with the alleged "age makeup". Rock Hudson looked fairly
    gorgeous, too, which was probably _his_ job, as he never quite cut it
    as a rough, tough rancher with a half-million-acre spread. And Mr.
    Dean... well! What a performance - from weird-acting, drunk and
    dissolute no 'count youth to weirder-acting, drunker and even more
    dissolute (in a Howard-Hughes-ish sort of way) mega-tycoon, he ran the
    gamut of emotion from A to B, as somebody (Dottie Parker, I think)
    said, - though not, I suspect, of him. 
    
    Not that it was any fault of Dean's, mind you. The script, as far as I
    could tell, didn't make much demand of anybody - except maybe the
    sobbing toddlers in the immortal "turkey" scene (the high point of the
    film, for me).
    
    I'll admit I was charmed by an exceedingly youthful Dennis Hopper in
    the (highly unexpected) role of the shy and sensitive son. I'd never
    have guessed that he _ever_ possessed a countenance so open, nor eyes
    so vulnerable... He didn't have much more to do than Dean did, of
    course. But I can't help thinking I'd have liked the movie better if
    the two of 'em had switched roles. ;-)
    
    Now that I think of it, maybe the turkey scene was the second-high
    point. [Spoiler warning, for purists:]
    
    
    I _did_ like the climactic scene in which a supposedly aged Rock Hudson
    goes after a supposedly middle-aged James Dean in the booze-cellar,
    and, to show his disgust for the depths to which Dean's character has
    sunk, rather than striking him, knocks down a rack of whisky, which
    topples into another rack, then another, domino-fashion, thereby
    bringing most of Dean's high-proof wealth to ruin... Anyway, I was
    definitely not expecting *that*, and found it quite amusing.
    
    But, on the whole, I don't see what all the fuss was about.
    
    -b
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89.1TLE::JBISHOPTue Mar 23 1993 12:593
    "Runs the gamut of emotion from A to B..." was said of Katharine
    Hepburn.
    			-John Bishop
89.228992::WSA038::SATTERFIELDClose enough for jazz.Tue Mar 23 1993 14:1924

I've always liked the score for this film, but then I've always been a sucker
for Dmitri Tiomkin's film scores. Almost all of them have benefited the films
they graced, imho.

The art direction/production design on this film is outstanding. Consider the
effect of the "house" in the middle of a flat, empty plain. Or the way the
giant oil painting in one of the rooms (living room, den, great room?)
dominates the people in the room.

I agree that this film was sort of a precursor to todays mini-series. And it
would certainly have benefited from the mini-series format. That would have
allowed more time for such a large story. As long as the film is, it's still
too short for the amount of material. At times it seems jerky, characters and
situations aren't fully developed. There were several plot lines that were
just dropped or ended up on the cutting room floor that I would have liked to
have seen continued.

Given the material, George Stevens did a good job with the film. Not one of
his very best but still an enjoyable three hours.


Randy
89.328994::WSA038::SATTERFIELDClose enough for jazz.Wed Mar 24 1993 11:408
re .1


What does Katherine Hepburn have to do with _Giant_?


Randy
89.4ESGWST::RDAVISLet us now kiss the carpetWed Mar 24 1993 12:3512
    Every time I've tried to watch this movie, it's been as awful as it was
    all the other times.  Boredom big as Texas!  If only they'd given it to
    Douglas Sirk to film... now there was a director who knew what to do
    with Technicolor, and Cinemascope, and overblown melodrama about rich
    folks gone to seed, and Rock Hudson.
    
> What does Katherine Hepburn have to do with _Giant_?
    
    Didn't Katherine Hepburn play "The 30 Foot Bride of Bachelor's Gulch"
    opposite Lou Costello?
    
    Ray
89.5TLE::JBISHOPWed Mar 24 1993 15:445
    re .3
    
    .1 was giving a reference to a quote in .0
    
    		-John Bishop
89.628994::WSA038::SATTERFIELDClose enough for jazz.Thu Mar 25 1993 12:539

re .4

You're right about Douglas Sirk. But I don't think Stevens did all that bad
a job with the film considering the screenplay he had to work with.


Randy
89.717576::COLLINSSearchin' for JesseMon Jun 14 1993 00:4814
    
    	And for all you triviabuffs...
    
    	let us not forget that James Dean Porsched out before the film
    	was finished.  His final, drunken speech to an empty ballroom
    	was dubbed by -
    
    
    	His good buddy, Nick Adams  (Johnny Yuma was a rebel...).
    
    	The scenes of Dean walking on his land, walking off his
        boundaries, sitting on top of his windmill, driving across
    	Rock's front lawn; that's what I watch the movie for.
    
89.8It was good when I saw it in 1958 -age 1342443::BUXTONRThu Aug 26 1993 18:163
    Seven nominations and one Academy Award for the director Geoge Stevens
    
    Bucko...
89.9Even betterQUARRY::reevesJon Reeves, ULTRIX compiler groupThu Aug 26 1993 19:0412
Actually, 9 nominations plus 1 award:

Picture
Actor (James Dean, Rock Hudson)
Supporting Actress (Mercedes McCambridge)
Adapted Screenplay
Color Art Direction/Set Decoration
Color Costume Design
Film Editing
Dramatic Score

plus the award for Direction.