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Created:Thu Jan 28 1993
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82.0. "Point of No Return" by 8269::BARRIANO (choke me in the shallow water...) Sun Mar 21 1993 21:32

This is a remake of "La Femme Nikita" a french film. This stars Bridget
Fonda in the lead and costars Gabriel Byrne (Cool World), Dermot Mulroney,
Anne Bancroft and Harvey Keitel (Bad Lieutenant) in a small but very effective
role. This movie is Bridget's best role to date, she is a much better actor than
her father Peter or Aunt Jane combined. Very well done. 
4 out of 5 stars

Spoiler Warning
Bridget plays Maggie a drugged out punk, who is involved in a shoot out and 
kills a police officer. She is sentenced to die by lethal injection, but
wakes up after the execution to find herself being trained as a government
assassin by Gabriel Byrne, in a Professor Higgins type role. The transformation
of Maggie into Claudia (code name Nina, after Nina Simone, a blues singer 
featured on the sound track) is very well done and believable. Maggie/Claudia
begins to feel guilty about her job and falls in love with her landlord (Dermot
Mulroney) in California. She tries to quit her job, but the agency wouldn't
let her, and will try to kill her before letting her go.

Regards
Barry
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82.1Too much violence but Fonda was superbSSDEVO::WOESTEHOFFFri Mar 26 1993 16:3510
  I saw this last weekend. I agree with .0 in that Bridgette Fonda did
  a superb job of acting. I hope to see more of her in the future.
  She also appeared to be quite athletic in the action scenes.
  However, most of the other performers were only average. Like many
  Hollywood movies, this one had more violence than was needed. I also had
  a hard time believing that Nina, who looked about 110 lbs, could send guys
  twice her size flying across a room with one punch. But, I guess you have
  to use your imagination a little when you go to the movies.

	Keith
82.2Bridget Fonda - an actress for the ;90sTNPUBS::NAZZAROUMass - 2-time A10 Champ!Mon Mar 29 1993 17:4112
    Incredibly high violence level in this movie, some of it gratuitous,
    but some of it very necessary.  There is one particularly jolting
    violence perpetrated by Fonda's character in the opening scene that
    nearly sent me right out of my seat.
    
    And yes, Fonda is incredible.  Her transformation is handled well - you
    got a feeling for time elapsing.  And the ending is handled with a
    surprisingly subtle touch that fit perfectly.
    
    8.5 of 10, if you can stand the violence
    
    NAZZ
82.3ZZZZzzzz....STAR::MARISONScott MarisonMon Mar 29 1993 18:019
From what I hear, this movie doesn't live up to it's French counterpart,
"La Femme Nikata".

From what I've seen of the previews, and from reviews I've read/seen,
it's just typical hollywood.

ZZZZzzzz....


82.4Matinee value -- not much more.RNDHSE::WALLShow me, don't tell meThu Apr 08 1993 11:229
    
    Took myself to see this last night.  Eh.  Had a little trouble
    suspending my disbelief for some reason.  I thought the ending was
    predictable and flat.  The performances were good all around.  You
    gotta love Harvey Keitel.  Even Olivia D'Abo's bit part was
    entertaining.  The principals weren't given a whole lot to work with,
    though.
    
    DFW
82.5La Femme Nikita17655::LAYTONThu Apr 15 1993 13:214
    La Femme Nikita is available either subtitled or dubbed...if you
    haven't seen it, do so.  It is also particularly violent.
    
    Carl
82.6Liked it16913::MILLS_MATo Thine own self be TrueMon Sep 20 1993 14:449
    Rented this last weekend, and it was much better than I expected. I'm
    not much into violent films, but the violence in this, although there's
    a lot if it, is kind of necessary for the plot to develop.
    
    There's quite a bit of suspension of disbelief required in this one,
    but it's at least a movie that will hold your interest.
    
    
    Marilyn
82.7The AssassinYUPPY::SECURITYSecurity @LDOThu Jan 27 1994 06:1312
    
    
    Came out here in the UK under the title 'The Assassin'
    Hollywood amazed me this time (dosen't happen often) by sticking so
    closely to the original, while not doing too bad a job of it, IMO.
    I found the violence a tad more intense than what I'm used to or was
    expecting, but the Hotel room explosion was a pleasant twist
    regardless.  (this dosen't happen in 'La femme Nikita')
    
    And that L7 track just kicked a$$.
    
    
82.8ACESMK::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Tue Feb 01 1994 13:135
    I saw _Point of No Return_ first, then _La Femme Nikita_.  The
    Hollywood remake really did adhere closely to the original.  To me, the
    biggest difference was one of tone.  The Hollywood movie is sharper and
    neater; the French version is murkier and doesn't worry about a few
    dangling threads -- life isn't always wrapped up in a neat package.
82.9?42441::SHELLEYBugs B GoneFri Mar 04 1994 12:206
    re:.4 �Olivia D'Abo's bit part
    
    I watched this the other night and must have missed this. What part
    she play ? I remember Ms D'Abo from the Star Trek TNG episode "True Q".
    
    Royston
82.10who's the cleaner8269::CAMERON_STue May 24 1994 21:133
    Was Harvey Kietel the one who plays the cleaner.  If so he did an
    incredible job.  That was one of the best things in the movie, besides
    Bridgette.
82.1158379::BAYNESymphony in Orange, Number 1Wed May 25 1994 10:399
re .10
    >Was Harvey Kietel the one who plays the cleaner.  

	Yes it was.  I liked the line he had during the cleaning scene 
	where he matter of factly declares:
	
	That one's still alive.
	
	Shawn
82.12slight nit/correction :-)36058::CARROLLJEven a clown knows when to strikeThu May 26 1994 12:5310
    re .11
    
    	Actually, it was :
    
    	*she's* not dead.  
    
    	He said it like he had asked for whole wheat bread at a restaurant
    and gotten white - *that's* not wheat.  Good delivery...
    
    					- JC
82.13REGENT::POWERSFri May 27 1994 09:5720
>    <<< Note 82.12 by 36058::CARROLLJ "Even a clown knows when to strike" >>>
>    
>    	*she's* not dead.  
>    
>    	He said it like he had asked for whole wheat bread at a restaurant
>    and gotten white - *that's* not wheat.  Good delivery...

Nah, that's not the way it happened - isn't this the scene where he's
piled the bodies in the wading pool or something to dump acid on them, 
and when he pours acid on one she starts flailing around?
Not deadpan at all!  More like "Jeesh - can't you turkeys get anything right?"

Actually, the whole "cleaner" part was the weakest part of the movie.
Call this guy in for damage control, and he starts gunning more folks down
and can't even tell the live ones from the corpses.
In the original (La Femme Nikita), it was even worse.  The cleaner
there was a madman/clown, a lot more like that character on the old
Muppet Show who like to blow things up (why would I think of him right now?).

- tom]
82.14I liked it!HOTLNE::SHIELDSSat Dec 21 1996 19:559