Conference bookie::movies

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> Can anyone remember the line Robert Mitchum says to Nick Nolte

Don't you mean Robert DeNiro? Mitchum played the same part in the original.
I haven't seen the remake, I'd be interested in someone's opinion who has
seen both in comparing the two Roberts performances in that part.


Randy

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    Robert Mitchum had a cameo role in the remake, too. I think he played
    the lawyer of De Niro.  Or the police officer ? Not sure anymore.
    
    Andrea

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>    Re. -1
>    Robert Mitchum had a cameo role in the remake, too. I think he played
>    the lawyer of De Niro.  Or the police officer ? Not sure anymore.
>    
>    Andrea

Mitchum was the cop in the remake. Peck (who played Nolte's role in the
original) was the laywer.

/Scott

    I did mean the remake - I haven't seen the original.  It was definitely
    Robert Mitchum who says it to Nick Nolte.
    
    Can anyone remember the line?
    
    Nicole

    I hired the movie again.
    
    The line was "pardon me all over the place"

    I found the original, with Peck and Mitchum, to be far more enjoyable
    than the remake, as well as more true to the book. The remake was too
    busy: there was the subplot with the girl at the office, and the one
    with the daughter trying to rebel against her parents. And the end was
    just far too long; I was too mentally fatigued to feel much suspense by
    the end of it.
    
    Robert Mitchum seemed more quiet, and more dangerous, than De Niro. And
    Gregory Peck was more convincing as the ordinary man trying to deal
    with an extraordinary situation he has been thrust into than Nolte. You
    should definitely see the original.
    
    By the way, the book was the best of all. There are several interesting
    differences between it and both movies. For one thing, the antagonist
    (forgot his name) called the lawyer "Lieutenant" rather than
    "Counselor"; this is because he was imprisoned on testimony given when
    they were both in the army. Most interesting, though, is that the words
    "Cape Fear" appear nowhere in the John D. MacDonald book on which the
    movies are based. The original title was "The Executioners".
    
    The antagonist is very typical of MacDonand's villians: powerful and
    devoid of any feeling of responsibility for his actions, but smart.
    That type pops up in his Travis Magee books all the time.

    Cape Fear, the remake, was on the telly last night.  I saw it
    originally (the remake that is) in the theatre when it was released.
    
    I have a question about the young lady who played Nolte's Daughter.
    
    What other films (or TV series) has she been in?  It was driving me
    crazy through the whole thing.  I think her name is Juliette Lewis 
    and I know I've seen her elswhere but I can't remember.
    
    I noticed also, this second time around, that she's a great actor.
    
    Steve

    Re -.1
    
    Wasn't Juliette Lweis in Kalifornia?
    
    				- Jim

    
    	Yes.
    
    							GTI

    Juliette Lewis was also in Woody Allen's Husbands and Wives and in the
    recent What's Eating Gilbert Grape?
    
    Lorna
    

    To those who have seen only the remake of this movie, the daughter
    did a fine job.  Her acting really was good, but if you've seen the
    original movie, the daughter was much more innocent than Juliette
    played her (director's choice, probably).  
    
    I thought it was much more effective and frightening to have the
    daughter so innocent, but boy, have times-a-changed.  There's not 
    much innocence out there any more like there used to be.  Oh, well
    I guess I'm showing my age.
    
    Liked the movie very much, but must admit thought it was a little
    far fetched that Robert DiNiro (sp?) was able to stay under the
    jeep all the way up to the river.  I know he was supposed to be
    strong, but REALLYYYYYYYYY.

    re .11, during the first and middle parts of the movie I thought DiNiro
    was really scary, but by the end I was laughing out loud at the amazing
    situations he was able to survive.
    
    Lorna
    

    DiNiro had actually chained himself at the waist (and I believe the 
    chest too) to the frame of the car.  I guess they didn't drive over any
    bumps on the way :-)
    
    steve
    

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    spoiler:
    
    
    But, what about at the end in the water?  I thought he was *never*
    going to drown!  :-)   
    
    Lorna
    

Spoiler:

  Actually he didn't drown. He became part-fish and part-human and dug his way through
  to Nolte's swimming pool waiting for him when he comes home.

  You can see it all in Cape Fear II. :-) :-)

Nari

Has anyone seen the Simpsons spoof of Cape Fear, I saw it before I saw the
remake and they did drive over bumps, through Cactii the works and Homer
Would say "Everyone OK?", and 3/4 voices would say "Yes" and one would say "No"
I thought it was a joke.

Then I saw the film and I couldn't beleive it.

    Saw the original "cape Fear" last night.  A pretty good movie;
    Mitchum's Max Cady a very scary guy.  Having seen the remake when it
    came out, I was fascinated by the differences:  Scorsese really
    exploited the change in movie conventions over 30 years, making the
    implicit explicit.  I thought the differences in the characters of Peck
    vs Nolte, Bergen vs Lange, and (the daughter) vs Lewis, and in their
    marriage and family life were also interesting, and I think preferred
    the remake in this respect.  The original was a creepy, suspenseful
    movie; the remake more intense.
    
    -Stephen