Conference bookie::movies

    
    	Chuck Norris can't act, but I love his movies.
    
    	"Code of Silence"
    	"Hero and the Terror"
    	"Breaker Breaker"
    
    	etc.
    
    							GTI

    You are among those who realize Martial Arts movies shouldn't be
    watched for the acting. It always amuses me when I read about someone
    trashing an M/A flick because such and such "can't act".
    
    Ken

    HELLO .........
    
    IS THIS NOTE STILL GOING.......
    
    My names Martin i'm in DEC parc 1 in England.
    
    I have been doing Martial Arts for 15 years since I was 5 years old, I
    like to watch good movies but it's hard to find one these days which
    is realistic. Because it was based on a true story I found Blood Sports
    was very action packed, however Jean Claude Van Dame was not a good 
    choice for the part. He maybe a good Martial Artist but it was all
    camera tricks and stills (major waste).
    
    My hero without doubt is Bruce Lee, and I must agree with you he had
    hardly any acting skills but was a brilliant Martial Artist.
    
    So Ken if your still with us, what is your favorite all time Martial 
    Arts Movie ?
    
    
    
    

    Yes,I'm one Ken who's still around! I guess my favorite M/A movie is
    most any movie by Chuck Norris.
    Incidentally,Van Damme is in a bit of hot water. Seems he has been
    claiming to be a 1980 Kickboxing champion of some sort only nobody (but
    him) can find any proof.
    
    Ken

Has anyone heard of the 1982 "Shaolin Temple"?  This was the first martial
arts film done with artists from the mainland.  Since Communist China had no
(non-propaganda) film industry, the crew and director were (unfortunately)
from Hong Kong.  Clips from this movie can be seen in "Iron and Silk"; you
can get some idea of how amazing the work is.  Keep in mind that all sequences
were done with real weapons (read the "Iron and Silk" book -- it's a lot 
better than the movie and offers interesting information about martial arts
in the mainland).

Good Points:
  Beautiful gong fu (of course)
  Excellent acting (and these guys aren't even actors!)
  Wonderful story (charm, wit, and good old fashioned fun)

Bad Points:
  the Hong Kong crew's "Saturday morning" directing (cheezy flash pans, etc)
  some annoying trampoline work -- these guys DON'T need trampolines!
  the girl cheats with a stunt double.
  difficult to get -- my version doesn't even have subtitles!!
  easily confused with half a zillion movies of the same name.

I've looked for but have never found the movie on LD or tape.  I knew
that the old master in 'Silk & Iron' series starred in ST and I've
wanted to see it since.  Perhaps I need to go down to Chinatown...

monty

    Anybody see "Martial Outlaw"? Sounds like a M/A movie. Am I right?
    What's it about? Who's in it?
    
    Ken

    I was stationed in Japan when "Shaolin Temple" first came out and was
    able to see it in the theater, much to the chagrin of my ex-wife. It
    was a fantastic movie and I thoroughly enjoyed it, but imagine my non-
    impressed wife watching a Chinese movie with Japanese subtitles! I
    haven't seen anything about it since.

    1. Lady Kung-Fu. Heroine has a brother killed, goes after the bad-guys
    who DO wear black. Invades the gang-leader's home and is pursued around
    the house by approximately 50 bad guys. They don't have a chance. She
    kills the gang leader by throwing two axes (with each hand no less)
    into his back. As he turns and goes into his long death speech she
    sticks two lit cigars into his eyes. And all the bad guys are lying in
    piles and all dead.
    
    2. The other I believe was entitled American Ninja. You can tell he's
    the good guy because he is in a white ninja suit. Naturally all the bad
    guys have a problem in seeing him in the green jungle area although I 
    could see him very clearly. Guess he knew the secret of Ninja
    invisibility.
    
    Both are so terrible they are unintentional comedy at it's best. I am
    surprised both of these beauts haven't been on Mystery Science Theater
    3000. Croooowww and Tom Servo are two of today's best movie critics.
    
    

    I have just found this conference and i am a little dissapointed to
    find allot of discussion has been about more of the commercially known
    films and actors.
    
    is there anyone outhere with an interest in the more classical kung-fu
    martial arts movies. Such as early classic jackie chan movies:
    
    >> Drunken Master
    >> Snake in the eagles shadow
    >> Fearless Hyena
    
    These films are often disliked by there notoriously bad dubbing and
    acting. However there fighting techniques such as Snake fist, various
    drunken styles, heaven and earth etc are most entertaining.
    
    Are there any fans outhere that love this sort of thing.
    hope to here from you all 
    
     Daks browne @lzo (bahtat::browned)
    
    

    
    
    "Snake In The Monkeys Shadow"
    "The Tiger Strikes Again"
    
    All great stuff - I love it.
    
    Chris.
    
    PS. "You kill my master. Now you fight me!"
    
    

    re .11
    
    thanks chris nice to know i,m not alone in the world
    
    Daks
    

    I saw a M/A flick last night that I can recommend (for the action, not
    the acting).
    
    Shootfighter
    
    This stars Bolo Yeung surprisingly playing a good guy.
    
    Nothing new here but plenty of well choreographed action.
    
    Royston

    
    Good call Royston.
    
    Rented this out Saturday afternoon while baby sitting.
    We both thought it was pretty good.
    
    Cheers
    
    Chris D.
    

    
    	My favorite was "Remo Williams ... the Adventure Begins", with
    	Fred Ward.  And I've ben waiting for " ... the Adventure Cont-
    	inues" for years now, but I have a feeling there won't be one.
    

    re .15
    
    It sounds like the standard formula for the majority of all MA films
    ever made (sweeping generalisations ? Me ?).
    
    ie 1. Kid sees family/friends get killed by baddies
       2. Kid gets trained up by oriental master. 
       3. Master dies/gets killed by baddies (optional)
       4. Kid tracks down and beats up/kills baddies.
       5. Final showdown with Chief Baddie
    
    I love 'em all.
    
    Royston   

    re: .17
    
    If one can get trained up, can one be trained down?
    
    I have no idea which film you're talking about, but if it has a kid in
    it, I'm not interested.

    The mystery movie is "The temple of Shaolin" starring Lee Chia Hui,
    which I saw in Hong Kong some years ago. One of the key scenes before
    this "hero" enters the monastery is a lecture on the value of sacrifice
    by one of his friends, who commits suicide for their "cause", whatever
    it is. Against the evil ganglord, I guess and this kind of motivates 
    the hero to perform seemingly impossible tasks in the monastery during
    his elaborate training.

    Without doubt the finest martial arts films are those of Jackie
    Chan. No Arguments (well except maybe for a couple of Bruce Lees).
    
    I saw my first Jackie Chan film about 10 years ago, and have been shouting
    ludicrous things with bad lip sync ever since. My personal favourites are '
    The Young Master', 'Snake in the Eagles Shadow', 'Drunken Master' and 'The
    Master With Cracked Fingers'.
    
    His action films are also well worth watching for Jackie's incredible
    lack of regard for human life, especially his own. In this category I
    would definately recommend any of the Police Story films and Armour of
    God.
    
    My favourite film quote ever comes from a Jackie Chan film, during a
    fight scene, and goes as follows (remember to overdub your voice badly
    here)..."Your Kung Fu style is unique! In that it is the only kicking
    style that has never been beaten!", now if that isn't fighting talk I
    don't know what is.
    
    dickie.