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Title: Home Brewers NotesFile
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Created:Sat Feb 08 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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Total number of notes:11881

273.0. "CLAIRIFING HELP NEEDED !" by VAXWRK::DAY () Wed Feb 15 1989 13:12

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273.1please clarify :-)SUSHI::KMACDONALDdrywall 'til ya drop!Wed Feb 15 1989 14:297
273.2Start clear?!VAXWRK::DAYWed Feb 15 1989 15:0511
273.3Use gelatinCSC32::J_LAWSONWho is John Galt?Wed Feb 15 1989 15:2015
273.4clear beerABYSS::lambertThings fall apart; it's scientificWed Feb 15 1989 15:2619
273.5Fining agents are one-shot deals.BENTLY::FARLEEInsufficient Virtual...um...er...Wed Feb 15 1989 18:5519
273.6BEING::MCCULLEYRSX ProThu Feb 16 1989 10:0220
273.7and then there's some folks....SUSHI::KMACDONALDdrywall 'til ya drop!Thu Feb 16 1989 11:4110
273.8CAM::EGERTONThu Feb 16 1989 13:1817
273.9CAXTON"S CLEAR BEERCLOSUS::BARNESTue Feb 21 1989 18:009
273.10deFINING fish gutsCLOSUS::BARNESTue Feb 21 1989 18:025
273.11some fine, some not so fine...SUSHI::KMACDONALDdrywall 'til ya drop!Wed Feb 22 1989 08:536
273.12GENRAL::GIBSONWed Feb 22 1989 13:097
273.13It was the heBREWS!CLOSUS::BARNESTue Feb 28 1989 15:128
273.14CSC32::J_LAWSONWho is John Galt?Wed Mar 01 1989 14:436
273.15Nah, Moses came up with using gelatin (but only Kosher gelatin)MELTIN::SCHOELLERWho's on first?Wed Mar 01 1989 16:146
273.16FINEdingsCLOSUS::BARNESFri Mar 10 1989 10:537
273.17Not me ...CSC32::J_LAWSONWho is John Galt?Fri Mar 10 1989 11:3410
273.18...there's a hair in my beer!CLOSUS::BARNESFri Mar 10 1989 11:447
273.19Isinglass - secondary or bottling?ODIXIE::ZOGRANTerps rising like a Phoenix!Mon Feb 24 1997 09:1614
    New entry in an old note -
    
    Just brewed another batch, and under the lid of the extract can was a
    package of yeast and a package of isinglass.
    
    The yeast got tossed as it was old.  Haven't used the isinglass yet,
    which leads to my question - is it used when racking to the secondary
    (it's in the primary right now), or when bottling?
    
    I really don't care if the beer is all that clear, but I have the stuff
    so....
    
    Dan
          
273.20CONSLT::HOLLANDMon Feb 24 1997 15:4317
    Dan,
         I've never used the isinglas finings but I think they are used at
    the end of the secondary.  Thought being that the proteins that are
    pulled out settle to the bottom of the secondary and are not racked off 
    to the bottling buicket.  Also, I read an interesting item in Zymurgy
    re: uses for old dry yeast or yeast that is unwanted that may come w/a
    can of extract.  The person recommended throwing the dry yeast that you
    don't want into the boil!  Obviously the yeast will be killed off but
    what will remain are the yeast hulls which are very beneficial to your
    desired yeast when it is pitched. I read another article months ago
    about how beneficial these yeast hulls are to viable yeast cells.  Just
    an idea.
    
    Cheers,
    
    Tim
    
273.21ODIXIE::ZOGRANTerps rising like a Phoenix!Mon Feb 24 1997 16:1611
    So I would add it to the secondary a couple of days before bottling?  

    As for the yeast, I tried to get it started in a little warm water (100
    degrees), but nothing happened.  Fortunately I bought a back up package
    of dry yeast so I was okay.  I have another kit I'm ready to make so
    I'll throw the old yeast package in with the boil.

    As an aside, I just bough 2 cases of Bud returnables for $1.20 each. 
    They're in pretty good shape and the cases will come in handy.

    Dan
273.22Don't expect activity when rehydrating yeastUNIFIX::FRENCHBill French 381-1859Tue Feb 25 1997 07:5315
    >  As for the yeast, I tried to get it started in a little warm water
    > (10  degrees), but nothing happened. 
    
    What did you expect to happen? You were simply rehydrating the yeast
    in preparation for fermentation. If you expected to see it ferment,
    you would have needed to give it some food - DME is usually used -
    	and now you are making a starter - which takes some time to
    ferment. As an aside, when I make pizza on most Sunday afternoons,
    I throw a tablespoon of baker's yeast into 1/2 cup of warm water
    with 2 tsp of sugar. It goes biserk and doubles in volume in 5 minutes
    or so. But you shouldn't expect any visible activity when simply
    rehydrating yeast in warm water.
    
    Bill
    
273.23ODIXIE::ZOGRANTerps rising like a Phoenix!Tue Feb 25 1997 09:2010
    The new yeast package, when sprinkled in 100 degree water (no sugar), began
    to "expand" after 10 minutes.  I pitched it shortly thereafter and my brew
    is still going strong (a bubble every six seconds) right now.  The
    yeast package that came with the extract can under the lid just sat 
    in the warm water and did nothing.  I was not going to risk the use of
    that yeast when I had another package handy.
    
    Dan
    
    (So when do I use the isinglass?)
273.24CONSLT::HOLLANDTue Feb 25 1997 17:2717
    Dan,
    
    Since you're so patiently waiting for an answer to your original
    question....I would add the isinglas finings 5 days prior to xfer to
    secondary.  I'll check my references tonight but think that you should
    be OK w/this.  Usually the finings come w/instructions but if you got 
    them in a kit I'll bet they bought in bulk and repackaged.
    
    On your yeast thing - if you rehydrated and the yeast clumped or did
    not dissolve into a brownish slurry then it may well have been NFG. 
    Even dry yeast will go bad and you really cannot tell what's been put
    under the lid!  I still stand by the yeast hulls comment - keep that in
    your arsenal for future reference.
    
    Cheers,
    
    Tim