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Conference 7.286::pet_birds

Title:Captive Breeding for Conservation--and FUN!
Notice:INTROS 6.X / FOR SALE 13.X / Buying a Bird 900.*
Moderator:VIDEO::PULSIFER
Created:Mon Oct 10 1988
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:942
Total number of notes:6016

802.0. "COCKATIEL male/female info ?" by JGO::DEGEN () Tue Jun 01 1993 14:27

    Who can help me Pleace ?
    
    I want to buy and tame a 7 weeks old male cockatiel.
    
    My question is, is there any one who can tell me, how you can see at
    this age its a male or a female cockatiel ?
    
    If there is a way to see it ?
    How can I see it by a grey and a lutino cockatiel ?
    
    
    
    Thanks for your help,
    
    Johan. 
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802.1BOY OR GIRL??ABACUS::BOURGAULTFri Jun 11 1993 15:1223
    Johan,
    
    There is a way in which you can tell a male from a female cockatiel at
    that age, however it is for normals (Greys) only.  It has to do with
    the spots under its wings.  I can't remember if it is the males or
    females who have the spots continue across the entire underwing.
    I believe it is the females.  The males (I think) spots stop about
    1/2 to 2/3rds of the way across.
    
    However on the pieds, pearls & lutinos,  I don't believe there is
    a way, since most have very yellow faces and the orange patches are
    very visual.  You just have to wait until they are 3 - 4 mos old
    and see if they start to whistle.  If so then it is a good bet
    it is a male.
    
    I would advise you to get a good cockatiel handbook.  They usually
    give you advise on determining sexes as well as advise on taming and
    training.
    
    Best of luck and let us know your progress!
    
    Regards,
    Denise
802.2more male / female ? info .JGO::DEGENFri Jun 18 1993 13:3143
    Denise,
    
    
    Thanks for your reply.
    
    After a lot of talking to people and reading books about cockatiels
    there is a way to see at that age its a male or female.
    
    It also confirms your way to see its a male or female.
    
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    Female normal grey: - spots continue across the entire underwing.
    ------              - a yellow stripe on the outher tail feathers.
                        - they have a shorter tuft.
                        - light yellow stripes over the entire tail.
    
    Female lutino     : - a lot of spots on the entire underwing.
    ------              - they have a bright yellow tail.
                        - yellow stripes on the entire tail.
    
    Male normal grey  : - more little yellow and orange feathers in the
    ----                  face.
                        - greyer stipes at the outher tail feathers.
                        - they are talking in them self.
                        - have a longer tuft.
                        - they are more noisy than the females.
                        - spots on the underwing stops about 1/2 to 2/3 of
                          the way across.
    
    =======================================================================
    
    Male lutino       : - light yellow to white tail feathers.
    ----                - a few spots on the underwing.
                          ( this is easy to see if you can compare them to
                            one or more young cockatiels ).
                        - they are talking to them self.
    
    
    
    Regards,
    
    Johan         
802.3CARTUN::MISTOVICHdepraved soulFri Jun 18 1993 13:2635
    Now I'm confused about my grey.  My guess is she is about 8 months
    (according to my book, females get some yellow on face at about 6
    months, which Sushi did).
    
    Sparse crest
    Spots under wings about 2/3's across
    Yellow on outer tail, which is otherwise grey mottled/striped
    Not real bright cheek patches.
    
    I've assumed she's a female, but her spots definitely don't go all the
    way across the wing, but only 2/3s to 3/4s across.
    
    mary
    
    ps my book on parrots talks about sexing by some other characteristics,
    which seems to hold true for my tiels. (The body descriptions also work
    for my zebras and is easily confirmed thanks to coloring!) These are 
    most easily identifiable with a mixed crew for comparison:
    
    males -- stand with legs closer together, due to narrower pelvis
    females -- stand with legs closer together, due to wider pelvis
    
    males -- stay more upright when resting
    females -- will nearly lie down when resting
    
    males -- head profile tends to be longer and more angular
    females -- head profile tends to be more blunt and rounded
    
    males -- tend to be larger
    females -- tend to be smaller
    
    males -- when hanging out, tend to have loftier, more "proud" carriage
    females -- tend to just "hang out" :-)
    
    mary
802.4CARTUN::MISTOVICHdepraved soulFri Jun 18 1993 13:274
    Oops -- that should have been "females tend to stand with legs farther
    apart due to wider pelvis"
    
    mary
802.5HE OR SHE????ABACUS::BOURGAULTFri Jun 18 1993 15:0524
    Mary,
    
    By the age of 6 mos., if your bird is a male, he would be whistling and
    making all sorts of noises.  A female is much quieter and when she does
    make noises, it is more of a screech -  rather shrill.  ALso,  if your
    bird is getting more yellow than before and the cheek patches are
    getting a deeper or more vivid orange, then you have a male.  I find
    the males start getting more and more yellow on their faces from the
    age of 3 mos. on.  It then starts to appear like they have a "dirty
    face" with splotches of grey are getting fewer and fewer.  On the other
    hand, the female keeps pretty much the same face as when she was a
    chick and very little changes.  I can usually tell by the faces of
    my babies what they will be by simply looking at their cheek patches
    and I am usually on target.  Even when they are adolescents, the
    males cheek patches always are shade or two more vivid than the hens.
    although it's hard to tell if you can't see both together to compare.  
    
    The bars on the tail feathers are another pretty sure way of telling
    the difference.  The crests are no way an indicator of their gender.
    
    Hope this helps you out.
    Regards,
    Denise
                                                                         
802.6CARTUN::MISTOVICHdepraved soulFri Jun 18 1993 15:5313
    Sushi got a little bit of yellow on her face at about 6 months.  Her
    tail is definitely barred.  Do the wing spots got the the end of the
    wing itself or the feathers?
    
    Verbally, she and Saki are both on the quiet side *except* when playing
    or flying around the living room.  Sushi does occasionally do her
    "finch imitations" which I now think are really something else.  The
    other day, I was scratching some wax off a couple new crest feathers
    and she started doing her funny little chirping.  She flattens her
    crest when she does this, and sometimes also lowers her head/lifts her
    tail and walks slowly around.
    
    mary
802.7more male /female infoJGO::DEGENMon Jun 21 1993 03:2021
    mary,
    
    After the first moulting passed thats as they are 4-6 months old, its
    easy to see for a normal grey cockatiel its a male or female.
    
    Male   - a totaly grey tail.
           - a yellow face.
    
    Female - a yellow/black banded tail and swell.
           - a grey face with a litle yellow.
    
    I think as the moulting passed, the spots on the underwing stay as they
    are at this moment.
    
    Female cockatiels can also learn a sound imitation, and speaking but
    they are learning not so easy as a Male.
    
    
    Regards,
    
    Johan. 
802.8NEW PETJGO::DEGENTue Jul 13 1993 12:1916
    Hello,
    
    Today I bought a 7 weeks old Lutino male cockatiel for $13 by a lokal
    breeder.
    It was easy to see its a male he has very bright orange cheeks, and a
    few yellow spots across the underwing.
    He is a good condition and nice to see.
    I called him TWEETY.
    
    So up to the next step ... and start to tame him.
    
    I let you know my progress.
    
    Johan.