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Conference 7.286::pet_birds

Title:Captive Breeding for Conservation--and FUN!
Notice:INTROS 6.X / FOR SALE 13.X / Buying a Bird 900.*
Moderator:VIDEO::PULSIFER
Created:Mon Oct 10 1988
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:942
Total number of notes:6016

465.0. "RAISING (not racing) PIGEONS" by TINCUP::BILLINGSLEA (Mark) Fri Dec 07 1990 12:18

    Recently, I've become fascinated with pigeons (the kind that fly around
    town).  I've gone to the library and picked up some books (wow, what a
    hobby).

    Anyway, I've thought I'd try it a bit, but am wondering if anyone can
    offer any "gotchas" to watch out for, or encouragement about what to
    do.

    I thought I'd start by build a small coop (as outlined in one of the
    books) and try and catch some of the local pigeons.  That's where it
    gets tricky.  How and where does one catch a pigeon?  Under a bridge?
    Where do they like to roost?

    Thanks in advance,
    
        +- Mark

    ps.  My daughter (7 yrs.) is very interested in this too.  :-)
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465.1Please don't capture themBPOV02::PULSIFERDoug Pulsifer DTN 296-3332, BP01Fri Dec 07 1990 12:2616
    Mark,
    
    It would not be fair to the bird for you to try and catch one, as they
    are used to being free. What you are proposing may also be illegal.
    
    I am sure you could find a person in the area who currently raises
    pidgeons and would sell/give you a couple to start with. If you have
    trouble finding a pidgeon person I would suggest you check with the
    local grain stores and see who buys pidgeon food. By buying from a
    breeder you could get a much younger and healthier bird, and if young
    enough they are more apt to be tame and stick around if they get loose.
    
    I myself had 2 wild pidgeons, but I had them because their wings were
    broken and never healed right.
    
    Doug
465.2same conclusion, different reasonsMEIS::TILLSONSugar MagnoliaFri Dec 07 1990 13:1447
> What you are proposing may also be illegal.

    FWIW, it *is* legal (at least in Massachusetts) to keep wild-caught
    pigeons.  According to the Fish&Game Department and the Audobon
    Society, there are three types of wild birds one may keep in
    Massachusetts - English House Sparrows, Starlings, and Pigeons.
    The reason you may capture and keep these birds (as opposed to other
    wild birds) is that they are not native to the United States, and they
    are considered something of a nuisance and compete with native species
    for space and food.
    
    >It would not be fair to the bird for you to try and catch one, as they
    >are used to being free.  
    
    At first glance, I agreed with you, Doug.  But then, why is capturing a
    local bird to care for it (presumably humanely!) any more or less
    unfair than buying a wild-caught parrot?  I have wild-caught parrots and
    finches in my breeding program, as well as having/had wild-caught pet
    birds, and most of the parrots for sale in *most* pet shops are
    wildcaught.  I do encourage people to buy and keep domestically raised
    birds - they make better pets and its good for the breeders :-), but I
    don't think I could legitimately pass judgement on the fairness of
    keeping a captured pigeon.
    
    With that said, Mark, I still agree that in your case, finding a person
    who raises pigeons and purchassing dometically raised birds for your
    breeding stock is the best thing for you to do.  The reasons are:
    
    1) As Doug said, you get a younger, healthy bird with known parentage
    
    2) Domestically bred softbills nest and breed more reliably than
       wild-caught  - you'll breed them more sucessfully
    
    3) You get a bigger choice of *types* of birds.  Doves and pigeons come
       in ALL TYPES, from the "simple, basic model" to  ones with elaborate
       crests, fancy colours, etc.  Check American Cage Bird magazine -
       they list several breeders of pigeons and doves in their
       classifieds.
    
    4) You get to know another breeder, who can give you help and advice
       as well as birds!  NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THIS - talking to other 
       breeders has made me much more sucessful in my breeding program than
       I ever would have been on my own.
    
    						/Rita
    
465.3TJT01::ARMITAGEFri Dec 07 1990 14:573
    You want pigeons-Have I got Pigeons!
    Let me know if you're interested in traveling to the lowell area.
    Lisa
465.4Sources?CSCMA::EINESCSC/MA SNA product supportThu Aug 08 1991 18:0420
Greetings,

        I should have checked back in here sooner!  The last time I was in
the old BIRDS conference, it seemed I was the only person interested in 
pigeons.  I hope there is still some interest.

        I myself had a dozen racing pigeons up until 2 days ago.  A gang
of racoons broke into my coop, and all the birds were killed.  This was
especially unfortunate timing, as I had just built a small specialty coop
that I was going to use for hand raising 4 of the young birds I had.  I'm
not planning on re-establishing the whole coop, but would like to get 4
young (just weaned) pigeons for this training exercise.

        I just tried sending Lisa Armitage mail, but she is no longer at the
node listed.  Does anyone know if she is still with DEC?  If not, I'd appreciate
any other pointers to other pigeons sources.  I already miss my flock.  They
were an impressive sight circling my house, or anywhere I brought them.


                                                        Fred
465.5LAH 29 King Street, LittletonKNGBUD::B_SIARTWhenWAStheLASTtimeSOMEONEsaidTue Aug 13 1991 11:458
    
    
    	Fred,
    
    		Call the Littleton Animal Hospital (486-3101), they
    specialize in birds and may have a lead or two.
    
    	-brian-