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Conference 7.286::pet_birds

Title:Captive Breeding for Conservation--and FUN!
Notice:INTROS 6.X / FOR SALE 13.X / Buying a Bird 900.*
Moderator:VIDEO::PULSIFER
Created:Mon Oct 10 1988
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:942
Total number of notes:6016

424.0. "Crazy Grey?" by 20986::LAJEUNESSE () Mon Oct 01 1990 13:10

    
    I have an problem with my Grey that I'm wondering if anyone else here
    has had to deal with.  
    
    This bird is usually VERY friendly to me and pretty much no one else. 
    I can handle her, hold her on her back scratch her under her wings
    etc... only when it just me in the room.  Once there are others people
    in the room she will have nothing to do with being held.
    
    I have a friend that visits on a pretty regular basis and she always
    makes a point of saying hello to my Grey talking to her at first and
    now scratching her, handling her and you can tell the bird LOVES this.
    
    Now my problem.  When this friend visits my bird HATES ME.  She will go
    out of her way to swipe at me and try and bite me from her cage.  
    
    What going on?  Any one else ever run into this?
    
    Once my friend has left, the bird returns to her normal self.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Mark
    
    
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424.1ONCE BITTEN - PARROT AFFECTIONABACUS::BOURGAULTMon Oct 01 1990 15:1522
    Your problem is that your Grey is attached to you and does not want
    to share you with anyone.  In the wild, a bird such as a grey or an
    amazon is very protective of its mate (especially a male).  If another
    bird come along, the protective one will bite or physically abuse its
    mate to "Keep it in line" sort of like the cave man. Your bird does
    the same thing with you.  It is bonded to you therefore it will resent
    you showing affection to someone else.
    
    My (I should say my Husband's) Yellow Nape Amazon is the same way.  If
    I should go near my husband when Jocko is on his shoulder or near him,
    He will bite my husband on the ears or literally attack him.  Otherwise
    he is lovable (as lovable as an amazon can be) with him and will let
    my husband rub his belly and play with him.  My husband is Jocko's very
    favorite person in the world.  But, when I am near him you wouldn't
    know it.  Jocko will also attack him if he has our moluccan cocatoo
    on his shoulder and should wander within reach of him.  
    
    So what you are experiencing is just common parrot jelousy.  His heart
    belongs to you.
    
    Best of luck,
    Denise
424.220986::LAJEUNESSEMon Oct 01 1990 15:289
    Denise,
    
    I would tend to agree with that but what about the bird showing my
    friend the attention?  She loves her and will only go to her when we
    are both in the room.  
    
    Its strange.
    
    Mark
424.3FOR THE LOVE OF ANOTHER WOMANBRAT::BOURGAULTTue Oct 02 1990 15:0719
    Your bird considers it ok for her to befriend your friend.  However you
    must understand that although it is ok for her to show attention to
    your friend, it is not ok for you.  She feels that you are her mate -
    therefore you abide by her rules, even though they are one sided.
    
    It is a bit out of the ordinary for a bird that is bonded to one sex to
    like someone of the opposite sex, however birds can be fickle.  My
    Moluccan Cockatoo loves me and for over a year would only come on me.
    However since she has finally gotten over her fear of men, and my
    husband gives her attention and rubs her head too, she now deserts me
    whenever he is around and hops onto his shoulder.  I think some people
    tend to attract them for no apparent reason....similar to people.
    What makes some people attracted to someone else when they are married
    for instance??
    
    One of the mysteries of life I guess.  Perhaps other noters may have
    some ideas.
    
    Denise
424.4CSC32::K_WORKMANKarenWed Oct 03 1990 13:0317
Mark,

Nice to see you in notes!  I can't say any more other than this is
really expected and predictable.  Welcome to African Grey ownership.
My Grey is a nice guy to my hubby when I'm not around.  If I'm
around he will be nice to NO ONE except me.  

My husband and I where cleaning our family room and my husband went
to move and then vacuum around my Grey's cage.  As he stuck his
hand on the cage to move it, my Grey took a BIG chunk out of his
finger.  I couldn't believe it, but.... this is Grey ownership.

The thing to remember is that these are VERY intellegent birds. 
They really think things through and this is what produces this
behavior not to mention their normal instinctive bonding.

Karen
424.5BIRDS ARE NUTSBOSOX::ANGELICASWed Oct 03 1990 13:5214
    MARK,
    
         A FRIEND OF MINE HAS AN AMAZON WITH A SIMILAR BUT DIFFERENT
    PROBLEM, ANY STRANGER CAN WALK UP TO THIS BIRDS CAGE AND START
    TO TALKING TO HER AND SHE'LL COME OVER AND START TALKING BACK
    AND WILL BE VERY AFFECTONATE TWARDS THAT PERSON. THE PROBLEM IS
    THAT THIS BIRD WILL ONLY LOVE ONE PERSON AT A TIME REGARDLESS
    OF WHO IT IS. ON THE OTHER HAND MY AMAZON CAN LOVE SEVERAL PEOPLE
    ALL AT THE SAME TIME. HE'S JUST CURIOUS ABOUT STRANGERS. HE DOES
    GET MAD WHEN I'M ON THE PHONE FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME OR WHEN I HAVE
    VISITORS AND I'M TALKING TO THEM AND NOT HIM. HE WILL START SAYING
    FOUR LETTER WORDS. THIS SHOWS YOU HOW DIFFERENT EVERY BIRD IS FROM
    EACH OTHER..ALSO MY FRIENDS BIRD WON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH
    CHILDEREN WHILE MINE LOVES KIDS..THEY'RE ALL NUTS!!!!
424.6You have a MALE Grey !!!!EICMFG::BURKEJim Burke, @UFCFri Oct 05 1990 05:4316
    Mark,
    		I'm willing to bet that you have a MALE Grey. Refer to
    another note I've written on this somewhere else in the conference.
    We have a male & a female (who don't get on too well with each other).
    
    As Karen says, these birds are very intelligent. I believe also that
    they are more subject than others to sex differentiation/discrimination.
    The male bird prefers female humans, & v/v - this is *very* marked.
    When I'm away for more than a week, our female gets very friendly with
    my wife. Otherwise (ie. when I'm home), it's active *hatred* !!
    It's a special case with our male Grey's attitude towards me - he
    simply hates my guts permanently. Quite funny actually, the way he
    displays this dislike of me.
    
    Any use ?
    Jim Burke